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#545267 - 09/09/09 02:01 AM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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Originally Posted By: cruise02
speed check (Nero running, CD set at 2X but is listed as 6X) still hangs, even a half-hour after I tried again to install the game. (link to image below)

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd225...lltakeslong.jpg

Try manually setting the speed (see below):

Manually Setting Drive Speed

Enter the speed, and press Add.

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#545530 - 09/09/09 05:56 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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I guess I shouldn't mention it in this thread but last night I tried to burn some data files onto a blank DVD in Windows XP with Ashampoo Burning Studio 6 Free (a program I d/l about a month ago) and several times it couldn't recognize the blank disc in my macbook pro's optical drive (this happened after I d/l Nero Drive Speed and used it to change the speed of my optical drive from the default 24X to 2X, which was listed as 6X by the Nero drive control panel, and before inserting the DVD into the drive and starting up Ashampoo Burning Studio, I used Nero to change my optical drive speed back to 24X) and then after I kept trying, restarting Windows XP, Ashampoo finally recognized my optical drive, I started the burn process but it didn't finish the burn - it spit the disc back out and gave me a message that the burn failed. I tried to burn 2 more discs, but apparently I had data on them that wasn't burned properly because 1) Ashampoo said there wasn't enough free space on the discs - they were both DL, and 2) although I was able to successfully burn 1 disc last night, when I reinserted the disc in the drive and tried to access the files, my drive saw it as a blank disc. Then earlier today I tried to burn 2 more discs, the burn failed 1/4 finished and spit the discs out. In total I ruined 3 DL Memorex blank DVD's this way - could this problem I'm now having with Ashampoo Burning Studio 6 be because I used Nero Drive Speed to change the speed of my optical drive?

I never had this problem prior to d/l Nero Drive Speed and using it to alter the speed of my optical drive - all data DL DVD's were burned successfully every time and the data could be accessed at any time (before using Nero).

Any help would be appreciated but maybe I should take this problem elsewhere (but who/where?) and just stick to getting Emergency Room to install fully in this thread.
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#545563 - 09/09/09 07:31 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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Nero drive speed only affects the read speed - I don't see how it could interfere with burning.


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#545571 - 09/09/09 07:56 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: InlandAZ]
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Originally Posted By: cruise02
and several times it couldn't recognize the blank disc in my macbook pro's optical drive

Do you have the same problem burning with the Mac software?
This may be an "XP on a Mac" specific problem.
Intel Mac hardware is supposed to be compatible with Windows using Boot Camp, but it isn't identical to PC hardware.

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#545898 - 09/10/09 04:57 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Originally Posted By: cruise02
and several times it couldn't recognize the blank disc in my macbook pro's optical drive

Do you have the same problem burning with the Mac software?

No, all the burns using OS X work fine.
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#546015 - 09/10/09 09:56 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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Originally Posted By: cuise02
all the burns using OS X work fine.

Then it isn't a hardware problem.
Were you able to burn from Windows before now?

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#546446 - 09/12/09 09:25 AM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100

Were you able to burn from Windows before now?
Yes, all the burns in Windows completed successfully, and I was able to access the data on the discs after the burns.
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#546462 - 09/12/09 11:00 AM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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I wonder if there could be a software conflict between Nero and AShampoo. Have you tried uninstalling Nero to see if your ability to burn comes back? Have you tested the built-in Windows capability of copying files to a CD without using AShampoo? Have you tried adjusting the burn speed from within AShampoo? Are you using a batch of CDR or DVDR discs that worked previously?

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#546516 - 09/12/09 01:03 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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Removing it completely may require restoring to a point prior to installing if it adds filter drivers to the registry. They can be manually removed - but restoring is the simplest approach.

You can test for the existence of any additional filter drivers using the DevFilter utility -

busTRACE Utilities



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#546933 - 09/13/09 07:33 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: InlandAZ]
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I tried to uninstall Nero Drive Speed but there was no such entry in Add/Remove Programs in my Win XP Control Panel, in fact no option to uninstall from within Start > All Programs, nor R-clicking its desktop icon, so I simply R-clicked it and deleted it. Am now looking to see how you do a System Restore - went into Control Panel > System, System Restore tab, "Ok" but it won't do the system restore.

Stumped
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#546961 - 09/13/09 09:44 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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You might try the Nero General Clean Tool to uninstall it
http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=67563

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#546982 - 09/13/09 10:57 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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Just d/l and used the Nero General Cleaner, but it seems like it didn't work; the Nero Drive Speed icons are still on my Windows XP desktop...But have a copy of CCleaner on a DVD+RW, will try this - it didn't work, so did a system restore, am now trying a burn in Ashampoo on a DL DVD+R at burn speed 4X (only speed optons are 4X and 2.4 X) btw, it looks like Nero Drive Speed is gone. BTW, someone on VOGONS told me to make an ISO disk image of the game disc, so did this with ISODisk. Will keep you posted - the burn failed at 1/4 completed as when I had used Nero Drive Speed - what can I do now?

Well I guess using Nero Drive Speed was a mistake as it ruined my optical drive's firmware, so got rid of it (I hope) and will go with trying to install Emergency Room from the iso disk image I made, used isodisk to mount it, but how do you mount it in DOSbox - I tried but it didn't work for me?
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#547167 - 09/14/09 02:46 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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I've never heard of Nero Drive Speed hurting firmware. If it had hurt the firmware, you wouldn't be able to burn in Mac OS. But it probably wasn't tested on Mac hardware with Boot Camp and apparently did something to affect the way Windows accesses the drive. I'm really sorry about that. I keep forgetting Mac OS hardware is different, despite now having an Intel processor.

I'm not sure about how DOSBox will mount in Boot Camp. Have you been able to fix your Windows burning issues? They may be related to an inability to mount the disc image in DOSBox.

The best advice I have to mount discs in DOSBox is ***here***. I believe those commands can be customized mount an image or a folder as if it were a CD.

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#547224 - 09/14/09 07:17 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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Quote:
Well I guess using Nero Drive Speed was a mistake as it ruined my optical drive's firmware


That's just not possible - it may have installed an upper or lower filter driver (which I mentioned earlier). But there is no way that Nero altered your firmware.

I had run across a thread some time ago where Dell had claimed the same, but it was quickly retracted (at Nero's request).


Edit -

Firmware is independent of the PC (it's installed to the device itself). If Nero damaged it, it wouldn't work on the native MAC OS.


Edited by InlandAZ (09/14/09 07:19 PM)

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#547573 - 09/15/09 05:36 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: InlandAZ]
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Here's a link for my thread about the burning issue in MacForums - could you take a look at it, please?
** http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/apple-notebooks/166280-ashampoo-no-longer-detects-dvd-drive.html **

We had to make my mac to the Genius Bar at South Hills Village Mall today since I was having a problem burning DL DVD's on the Windows (Bootcamp) side. - they tested the firmware in my mac's DVD drive (OS X - burn was successful) and then booted into XP, and first thing they did was update the firmware (I never bothered with these updates) with apple updates and then tested it in XP - the burn in Ashampoo (bootcamp/Win XP side) was successful!

They did not charge us for the service. Am going to try the game in DOSbox in my Dell Dimension 8200 desktop PC that I brought brand-new in Nov. 2001.

When we mentioned installing the game in DOSbox on my mac to them, the guy at Genius Bar told us the game is so old (published 1995, requires DOS 6.0, 486/33 MHz PC, 4 MB RAM, SVGA, Sound Blaster, 4 MB free hard drive space, double-speed CD-ROM drive, mouse) that the computer is too fast for it, thus it won't accept the game.

Here are the specs for my new MacBook Pro (ordered July 7, 2009):

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 3.06 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP53.00AC.B03
SMC Version (system): 1.48f2
Serial Number (system): W89271Q664C
Hardware UUID: 00E49529-6A85-5904-A225-6A1A0A4C08D2
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled


Video card info:

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
Type: Display
Bus: PCI
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0863
Revision ID: 0x00b1
ROM Revision: 3448
gMux Version: 1.8.8
Displays:
Color LCD:
Resolution: 1152 x 720
Depth: 32-Bit Color
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Built-In: Yes
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected

(for gaming in XP) NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0647
Revision ID: 0x00a1
ROM Revision: 3448
gMux Version: 1.8.8
Displays:
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected

Just tried to burn data onto a DL DVD (using Ashampoo) in Bootcamp (win XP) on my mac - burn failed, we're taking the mac again to the Genius Bar at So Hills Village Mall tomorrow. mad mad
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