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#547611 - 09/15/09 07:22 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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It appears that Nero Drive Speed may have permanently altered the firmware of your optical drive.


The response is incorrect (although as I read it, it was really just a guess). Post this to Nero's technical support and I bet they ask them to remove or correct the comment, just as they did on Dell's web site. And the advice to avoid Brothersoft is a good one.

Firmware resides on the Device not the OS.

Did you ever determine if a filter driver had been installed?

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When we mentioned installing the game in DOSbox on my mac to them, the guy at Genius Bar told us the game is so old


It isn't listed on the DOSBox site as being compatible, I can't help you there I don't own the game. Maybe someone else has played it under DOSBox.


Edited by InlandAZ (09/15/09 07:42 PM)

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#547643 - 09/15/09 09:26 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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Originally Posted By: cruise02
Just tried to burn data onto a DL DVD (using Ashampoo) in Bootcamp (win XP) on my mac - burn failed, we're taking the mac again to the Genius Bar at So Hills Village Mall tomorrow.

Is that Double Layer DVD?
Is your drive capable of burning Double Layer DVD's?
Are you able to burn Double Layer DVD's on the Mac side?

I found ***this thread*** which talks about burning problems with double layer DVD's on the new Mac with the Matshita DVD-R UJ-868 drive. One person said they solved the problem by buying an external drive that could burn double layer DVD's.

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#547644 - 09/15/09 09:28 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: InlandAZ]
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Am going ahead to perhaps have my drive replaced - why avoid Brothersoft?
Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Is that Double Layer DVD?
Is your drive capable of burning Double Layer DVD's?
Are you able to burn Double Layer DVD's on the Mac side?

Yes, my drive is capable is burning DL DVD's. And yes, I'm able to burn DL DVD's on the mac side, was able to burn DL DVD's on the bootcamp (win XP) side before using Nero Drive Speed. In fact the man at Genius Bar said today burning DL DVD's on the mac side is OK, I just have the problem on the windows side - and my nephew tried to see if I can burn a DL DVD on the mac side from the bootcamp partition, and the burn failed.

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#547646 - 09/15/09 09:32 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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I don't know Brothersoft, but I found ***this***, which does not speak well of them. Perhaps they add a little "something extra" to their downloads (as in trojans and spyware).

This site advisor says they are questionable
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/brothersoft.com

Norton doesn't like them either.
http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=brothersoft.com

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•Computer Threats: 5
•Identity Threats: 28
•Annoyance factors: 0
Total threats on this site: 33

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#547653 - 09/15/09 09:49 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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Well I guess that Nero Drive Speed that I d/l from Brothersoft has something in it that parmenently changed my optical drive firmware (on the Windows side). Am considering getting Snow Leopard for $10 tomorrow at the Apple Store, repartitioning my hard drive (after the optical drive is fixed) and wiping out my entire hard drive, installing Snow Leopard, reinstalling Win XP, but have to know more about Snow Leopard regarding will Photoshop CS 3 and ComicLifeDeluxe run ok on it?

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#547668 - 09/15/09 10:37 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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Originally Posted By: cruise02
Well I guess that Nero Drive Speed that I d/l from Brothersoft has something in it that parmenently changed my optical drive firmware (on the Windows side).

It wouldn't have been the firmware, but it could have been a low level driver or something else that interfered with the operation of the drive. Firmware goes on the DVD drive itself. Drivers go on the hard drive. Inland mentioned "Filter drivers."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_driver

The drive probably came with the older firmware when you bought the computer. And they updated it for you at the Genius bar. Maybe the firmware update was to improve burning capability.

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Am considering getting Snow Leopard for $10 tomorrow at the Apple Store, repartitioning my hard drive (after the optical drive is fixed) and wiping out my entire hard drive, installing Snow Leopard, reinstalling Win XP, but have to know more about Snow Leopard regarding will Photoshop CS 3 and ComicLifeDeluxe run ok on it?

I don't think the Mac side would be affected by whatever Brothersoft "add-on" you might have picked up. Not unless you got Mac software from there at some point. You might want to redo your Boot Camp and Windows though.

Since Photoshop CS3 and ComicLifeDeluxe are important to you, you might want to wait until there's more user feedback before installing Snow Leopard. Hopefully if there's a problem, the software manufacturers will update their programs so they'll work.

If you decide to install Snow Leopard, be sure to update your Adobe Flash Player afterwards. Snow Leopard shipped with the older, vulnerable version of Flash Player. There was a mention of it in last week's Security Now episode
http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-213.htm
(do a search for the word Leopard on that webpage if you want to see exactly what they say. My link is a transcript of the podcast).
You can get the updated Flash Player from the Adobe site
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/

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#547915 - 09/16/09 05:28 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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Just took my MBP to the Apple Store Genius Bar in South Hills Village Mall today - they said they're going to have to take it apart and test everything, particularly the optical drive. On the authorization form it says Level 2. They said it'll take several days.

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#547931 - 09/16/09 06:13 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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That seems like an awfully long time to take to test a DVD-R drive.

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#548019 - 09/17/09 12:02 AM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: Jenny100]
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The odd thing is that you've stated that all burns work perfectly under the MAC OS - and in as much as it is a MAC, why would they think anything was wrong with the hardware.

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#548349 - 09/17/09 10:36 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: InlandAZ]
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Originally Posted By: InlandAZ
and in as much as it is a MAC, why would they think anything was wrong with the hardware.


Well, since we're all on earth and not Heaven I know mac's arn't perfect but we're picking up my MBP tomorrow - my mom told me they corrected the problem (in the OS X side) with the optical drive, but I'm going to double check tomorrow by asking them if: 1) they fixed the optical drive/its firmware? and 2) its possible to burn files/folders that're on my bootcamp partition onto a blank DVD when I'm running OS X?

Also - I'm abandoning all attempts to get that Emergency Room installed into DOSbox as I believe there's a glitch/bug in the program that causing it to lock up during the installer CD Speed Check. I've notified the seller who gave me a full refund but told me not to bother returning the game. I now have no regrets over having traded in my first copy of the game as I recall that I was sort of disappointed that the game's graphics were not like playing an interactive movie emergency medicine simulation.

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#548521 - 09/18/09 02:11 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: cruise02]
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Let us know how it turns out - hopefully all will be well again.

Retro gaming sure can be an adventure can't it smile


Edited by InlandAZ (09/18/09 02:11 PM)

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#549605 - 09/21/09 10:11 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop [Re: InlandAZ]
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My family told me to take windows xp out of my mac, b/c I'm only supposed to use it for editing photos and comic book creation with Comic Life Deluxe, not playing games on. So I complied and removed windows.

P.S. My Mom told me she asked God to help her help me with my computer, so God told her to tell me that I shouldn't mix PC (windows XP) with a mac on my MBP.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Hey Boomers - here's how to get this game running; credits go to InlandAZ for his expertise.
Ok, guys - here we go -

1) Start Virtual PC in DOS mode and install the game;
2) Export the installation directories (\Legacy\eri) to the host and place them in your DOSbox's "Emergency Room" directory;
3) Make sure your CD-Rom drive is set up under DOSbox;
4) Put the original (orange) game CD into your CD-Rom drive;
5) Start DOSbox, type "cd Legacy <enter>, cd eri <enter>, eri;
6) Enjoy!


Edited by cruise02 (11/07/09 12:29 PM)

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#565270 - 11/07/09 05:51 PM Re: DOSbox game install: laptop vs desktop (Emergency Room) [Re: cruise02]
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Glad you got it resolved - thumbsup


Edited by InlandAZ (11/07/09 05:53 PM)

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