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#645762 - 08/14/10 08:41 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100]
Mary Offline
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I thought Virtual PC only worked on Win Pro and Ultimate. Could you please provide me with a link for free Virtual PC where it would work with Win 7 Home 64-bit? Or is that not a free program?
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#645765 - 08/14/10 08:48 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Mary]
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#645766 - 08/14/10 08:49 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100]
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Jenny and All,

I found that if I tried to install a game into the XP mode virtual machine, the activation software (Metaboli I think) detected it and wouldn't allow the activation to take place. I must admit I only tried it with the one game and didn't bother after that. Do you think it would make any difference by installing MS Virtual PC 2007 and trying once more?

Toodle-pip.
Cas.

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#645769 - 08/14/10 08:58 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
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Hi All,

Here's the remainder of the games I've installed, run, but as yet not played on my machine. And as a little reminder I've got an i7 920 core processor running Windows 7 Pro x64 (i.e. 64 bit) with an nVidia GTS250 based graphics card.

All these games either run without any changes being needed to be made or with the odd little tweak here and there to get them going. Where there are any adjustments I'll indicate what they are alongside the game.

Sherlock Holmes The Mystery of the Mummy (Game 1) runs perfectly as does Sherlock Holmes The Secret of the Silver Earring (Game 2).

Sherlock Holmes The Awakened Remastered Edition (Game 3-ish) runs without any need for compatibility mode and in full screen but the graphics are somewhat jerky and not fluid as I've seen them before (Note to self, try to sort this out). This is also the case with Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper (Game 5). I have the original version of Sherlock Holmes 3 on Steam and will install it to see if there is any difference between the two, in terms of playability etc. and let you know the result.

CSI: Deadly Intent runs without the need for any changes. Although there is no Start Menu group for this game unlike all the other games, but appears in the "Games" group that's put in by Windows for its games.

Darkness Within: In Pursuit of Loath Nolder needs to be run in Win XP SP3 mode with visual themes disabled and I have found that it's a bit quirky too. See my earlier post above.

And all these run without the need for any changes:-
Darkness Within 2
Atlantis 2
Atlantis 3
Atlantis Evolution (4)
The Secrets of Atlantis (5)
Egypt 2
Egypt 3
Keepsake
Culpa Innata - Uncut
(i.e. The UK version)

And lastly, two spookies! Rhiannon and The Lost Crown - A Ghost Hunting Adventure both run without anything being needed to be done to them.

As I said above, I also use Steam for some games and managed to get Safecracker: The Ultimate Puzzle Adventure to run in a window by editing the config.ini file as suggested earlier in this thread. In my case the location is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Safecracker 2"; just in case anyone doesn't know where their Steam files are located.

If anyone can help me with any of these games I'd be most grateful as no matter what I do they bluster, blather and generally make a damned nuisance of themselves by not running no matter what I try. They are:-

Black Mirror
Dracula Origin
Post Mortem
Still Life
Wallace and Gromit's Grand Adventures
Dark Fall - The Journal
(because my wife loves the spookies)
Dark Fall 2 - Lights Out (ditto)
Sherlock Holmes versus Arsene Lupin (Nemesis)
The Secrets of Da Vinci


Well that's all my games and if my experience has helped then I'm a happy man, because this forum has helped me. And as they say, one good turn etc.

Toodle-pip chaps & chapesses,
Cas.

P.S. with a couple of exceptions (e.g. RTMI 1) all my games are the download versions from various well known sites such as the one on the left above.

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#645773 - 08/14/10 09:19 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: cas1701]
Mary Offline
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mj2c,
I've been to that page before; as soon as I enter Win 7 home premium 64-bit in the information, it won't let me go any further. It says I'm not eligible to download Windows XP Mode. I don't see any way to get to Virtual PC.
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#645919 - 08/14/10 09:12 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Mary]
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Mary, you cannot run XP mode in Win 7 Home Premium. It is only available for Pro and above. Even if you have Pro or above, XP mode will not be better for games as it does not support 3D. It is meant to run business applications, not games.
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#645922 - 08/14/10 09:40 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
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Mary,
XP mode and Virtual PC are not the same thing. You can download Virtual PC 2007 from
http://www.oldversion.com/download_Virtual_PC_2007.html

Filehippo also has it
http://www.filehippo.com/download_virtual_pc/

Originally Posted By: cas1701
I found that if I tried to install a game into the XP mode virtual machine, the activation software (Metaboli I think) detected it and wouldn't allow the activation to take place.

I doubt any game that is new enough to use online activation would work in XP mode. XP mode does not support 3D graphics acceleration and most current games require it (except for some free games that have very low requirements).

Quote:
Do you think it would make any difference by installing MS Virtual PC 2007 and trying once more?

I don't know about activating, but you have the same problem with the lack of 3D graphics acceleration in Virtual PC as in XP Mode.

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#646037 - 08/15/10 11:32 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
Mary, you cannot run XP mode in Win 7 Home Premium. It is only available for Pro and above. Even if you have Pro or above, XP mode will not be better for games as it does not support 3D. It is meant to run business applications, not games.


That's correct - however, I did see that Ben Armstrong (The Virtual PC Guy) posted a blurb about running Windows Virtual PC on the Home versions of Windows 7.

Installing Windows Virtual PC on Windows 7 Home Editions


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#646050 - 08/15/10 12:54 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100]
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
I don't know about activating, but you have the same problem with the lack of 3D graphics acceleration in Virtual PC as in XP Mode.

Jenny,

Thanks for the reply, I honestly hadn't thought about the graphics situation. Oh well, we live and learn.

Toodle-pip
Cas.


Edited by cas1701 (08/15/10 12:56 PM)

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#646053 - 08/15/10 01:00 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: cas1701]
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Hi All,

Just another quick update. I have just installed, run but not yet played Secret Files: Tunguska and Secret Files 2: Puritas Cordis without the need for any changes in compatibility etc. or as far as I can see, any problems either.

Cheers one and all,
Cas.

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#646099 - 08/15/10 06:39 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: cas1701]
Mary Offline
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Okay, I think I've got it now. I'm running Win7 Home Premium 64-bit and Virtual PC was recommended to me when I had problems with a game (of course, now I've forgotten which game I was talking about) but the Microsoft site let me to believe that it was not compatible with my machine.

Thanks Inland, for clarifying that matter for me.


Edited by Mary (08/15/10 06:40 PM)
Edit Reason: More info
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#646547 - 08/17/10 12:09 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
cas1701 Offline
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Hi All,

You may remember from earlier in this thread that I said was having problems with a couple of games, particularly Dracula: Origin in that when I started a new game I would just get a blank screen. Well I think I've found a solution.

Dracula: Origin along with quite a few other games use the PhysX drivers; nVidia released a new set of drivers on 11th August for Windows 7 64-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit, Windows XP 64-bit, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows Vista. Get them at http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx-9.10.0513-driver.html they certainly worked for me.

Toodle-pip
Cas.

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#647346 - 08/20/10 03:58 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: cas1701]
cas1701 Offline
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As noted above in my last post I installed the latest PhysX drivers and have now fully completed Dracula: Origin without any problems. Get them while they're hot.

Toodle-pip,
Cas.

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#649742 - 08/28/10 02:48 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: cas1701]
Jenna Offline
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Just a quick note that although my initial attempts to install the retail disk version of The Whispered Word on a 64-bit Windows 7 system locked up repeatedly, once I updated my ATI HD5570 drivers to the 8/25/10 version the game loads and plays fine.

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#649802 - 08/28/10 09:12 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenna]
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That's great, Jenna. I'll add your comments to the first page.
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