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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #570650
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I don't seem to be able to change to 256 color depth through Compatibility mode and an old stand by tool that I have used for this does not work right on 7. Even changing color depth through the advanced display settings does not help. Setting "Disable visual themes" in Compatibility mode fixes the color artifacting for The Neverhood, but not Sanitarium.

I have a couple of ideas that I want to try, but it may be an issue with my graphics card's drivers and I am having trouble getting the ATI installer to work. I had to manually update my driver.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #570654
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Ahhh... Let me know if you figure something out.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #570700
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Originally Posted By: Collector
Still Life - Black screen only, game does not load.

That's probably due to the StarForce copy "protection" used on it, which is an older version that isn't compatible with Vista (and apparently not with Windows 7 either)

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Even the none starforce version has the same problem. Currently playing it on VirtualBox and it plays great on that.

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100] #570774
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
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Still Life - Black screen only, game does not load.

That's probably due to the StarForce copy "protection" used on it, which is an older version that isn't compatible with Vista (and apparently not with Windows 7 either)

Runs fine on my Vista. I have not spent any time investigating it.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #570909
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Originally Posted By: Collector
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Still Life - Black screen only, game does not load.

That's probably due to the StarForce copy "protection" used on it, which is an older version that isn't compatible with Vista (and apparently not with Windows 7 either)

Runs fine on my Vista. I have not spent any time investigating it.
For some reason it didn't work for Inland
http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=481869

Are there some versions without StarForce?

Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100] #570920
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Yes, mine is SecuROM. Still didnt work.

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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100] #570923
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There is no message, just a black screen. I'll try a no-CD patch, just to make sure that it is not StarForce rearing its ugly head.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #570927
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I can pretty much assure you it's the version of Starforce (The Black Mirror and Still Life - each shipped with Starforce V3).


Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ] #570942
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The nocd wont work (famous last words) but there is a French hack/patch if you hunt arround which some people had some success with.

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I got it working on Windows 7 with the No-CD patch and compatibility set to NT4.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #570975
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I had the same problem with Still Life - the non-Star Force version - and got it to run using the NT4 compatibility mode. I didn't even need the No-CD patch.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: venus] #571015
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I tried the compatibility after I tried the No-CD, so I was not sure if the patch had anything to do with it, but you are right, restoring the original files works with NT4 compatibility, so it is not a Starforce issue. I had forgotten that that is what I did to make it run on Vista, too.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #571117
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Originally Posted By: Collector
I tried the compatibility after I tried the No-CD, so I was not sure if the patch had anything to do with it, but you are right, restoring the original files works with NT4 compatibility, so it is not a Starforce issue. I had forgotten that that is what I did to make it run on Vista, too.


In NT Compatibility Mode I see this -



Which version of the game are you running?




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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ] #571399
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I assumed I had the Starforce version, but never bothered to check. The No-CD patch I tried was only identified as for the English language version. I am getting ready to leave town and won't have time to check until I get back.

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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #571471
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I added Clive Barker's Undying to my first post as one that installed and ran perfectly. I am now running the 64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #571537
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I have been playing Chronicles of Mystery-The Scorpio Ritual for some days now and find it is giving me a few problems. At first it was the voices fading at the end of sentences; which would be a real setback without the subtitles. Now, however it is a serious problem of the pc shutting down unexpectedly, not freezing but actually shutting off. I have changed to a compatibility setting but haven't had time to test that yet.

later: Well none of the compatibility settings I tried worked. Since I don't have the patience or knowledge to experiment, I'll finish this game in XP.
Hope someone with more patience has better luck.

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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ] #572030
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Originally Posted By: InlandAZ
I can pretty much assure you it's the version of Starforce (The Black Mirror and Still Life - each shipped with Starforce V3).



Perhaps he can use the Starforce removal patch (which is downloadable) solve this problem?


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: cruise02] #572211
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Hi Guys
I am running the 32 version on my PC and I am encountering the same problems with some of the mentioned games Still Life, protection problem, Dracula 3 as mentioned in an earlier post, I have just loaded Art of Murder FBI Confidential, it runs no problem but I have no sound what so ever, I have selected all 3 options from the flash screen with the Graphics, Sound etc in the sound option, anyone else found this. Windows 7 is excellent but its starting to frustrate me with not being able to run certain games, I got the latest CSI(a prestent from Santa. so I havent tried it yet) also I have ordered the 3rd in the series of Art of Murder and Treasure Island and I am very worried that none of these will play on my PC, are Microsoft aware of these problems, if not I might have go back to good old XP
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I should be back home later tonight or tomorrow and will be able to check which version I have, then.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector] #572378
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I'm running the 64-bit version of windows 7 and CSI - Deadly Intent plays just fine smile
The same does Nikopol.


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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: misslilo] #572542
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Hi All
Just installed Nikopol and its running ok, but what are Microsoft going to do with all the games that now wont/dont run on Windows 7 (for various reasons), is it going to be like the old windows 92 etc after windows XP arrived, they just dont work anymore unless you use alternative methods like ScummV or Dosbox etc, I have well over 100 games that will run on XP, but after the last couple of days I will probably only get a handful of those to run on Window 7. Are most of my games now resigned to the Gaming Graveyard, or do I have to go back to XP, what are your thoughts guys
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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: safc] #572546
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safc,
You may have to wait until someone comes up with a good emulator for a 3D video card that can be used inside programs like Virtual PC.

Have you made a list of which games work for you and which don't? Also do you have the 64-bit or 32-bit version of Windows 7? Have you compared which of your games are working (and not) with the results other people are getting for the same games?

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Hi Jenn100
I have been checking games, I tried the VirtualBox for Secret Life, but that didnt work, got an boot install failure, the other games I have tried people have had problems with, I have had no response to Art Of Murder FBI Confidential yet, it loaded but there was no sould, I am using the 32 Bit version, although when I had my processor replaced I was told it was an Athlon 64 3000+ Dual Core, excuse my ignorance but how do I find out if I can install the 64 bit version of Windows 7
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Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: safc] #572556
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An Athlon 64 has 64-bit capability. That's what the 64 in Athlon 64 is about. But installing the 64-bit version of Windows 7 (as opposed to the 32-bit version) is not going to help with game compatibility.

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