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#572378 - 11/30/09 01:36 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector]
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I'm running the 64-bit version of windows 7 and CSI - Deadly Intent plays just fine smile
The same does Nikopol.
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#572542 - 11/30/09 02:38 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: misslilo]
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Hi All
Just installed Nikopol and its running ok, but what are Microsoft going to do with all the games that now wont/dont run on Windows 7 (for various reasons), is it going to be like the old windows 92 etc after windows XP arrived, they just dont work anymore unless you use alternative methods like ScummV or Dosbox etc, I have well over 100 games that will run on XP, but after the last couple of days I will probably only get a handful of those to run on Window 7. Are most of my games now resigned to the Gaming Graveyard, or do I have to go back to XP, what are your thoughts guys
A now totally frustrated
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Edited by safc (11/30/09 02:40 PM)
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#572546 - 11/30/09 02:50 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: safc]
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safc,
You may have to wait until someone comes up with a good emulator for a 3D video card that can be used inside programs like Virtual PC.

Have you made a list of which games work for you and which don't? Also do you have the 64-bit or 32-bit version of Windows 7? Have you compared which of your games are working (and not) with the results other people are getting for the same games?

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#572553 - 11/30/09 02:59 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100]
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Hi Jenn100
I have been checking games, I tried the VirtualBox for Secret Life, but that didnt work, got an boot install failure, the other games I have tried people have had problems with, I have had no response to Art Of Murder FBI Confidential yet, it loaded but there was no sould, I am using the 32 Bit version, although when I had my processor replaced I was told it was an Athlon 64 3000+ Dual Core, excuse my ignorance but how do I find out if I can install the 64 bit version of Windows 7
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Edited by safc (11/30/09 03:03 PM)
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#572556 - 11/30/09 03:10 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: safc]
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An Athlon 64 has 64-bit capability. That's what the 64 in Athlon 64 is about. But installing the 64-bit version of Windows 7 (as opposed to the 32-bit version) is not going to help with game compatibility.

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#572563 - 11/30/09 03:32 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Jenny100]
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Although, as Jenny says, 64-bit won't help your game compatibility, if you want to know whether your computer can run the different versions of Windows 7, you can download and run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor here.
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#572635 - 11/30/09 07:17 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
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A-Ray identifies the StarForce on my copy of StillLife as 3.4.65.11. I did a clean reinstall of the game, just to make sure that the No-CD patch was a factor. That version of StarForce will not install. I reapplied the No-CD patch and without Compatibility mode (thus eliminating StarForce), again got a black screen. Reapplying Compatibility mode to NT4 the game runs fine. If the black screen occurs on the non-StarForce version and the StarForce version after removing StarForce, I would suspect that the problem arises from the way that the rendering engine interacts with changes to the APIs on Vista and 7.

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#572848 - 12/01/09 11:55 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector]
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Quote:
I would suspect that the problem arises from the way that the rendering engine interacts with changes to the APIs on Vista and 7.

Agustin has a similar problem with Scratches under Windows 7.

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#572882 - 12/01/09 02:20 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ]
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Scratches works on Win7 by editing Scream.CFG value for Rate from 0 to 60, as noted earlier in this thread by Draclvr. I, too was getting BSODs with the game, but this config file edit worked for me, too.

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#573021 - 12/01/09 11:14 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector]
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Originally Posted By: Collector
Scratches works on Win7 by editing Scream.CFG value for Rate from 0 to 60, as noted earlier in this thread by Draclvr. I, too was getting BSODs with the game, but this config file edit worked for me, too.


Yes, Agustin pointed this out on his own web site (nucleoSys.com) - His speculation was that Windows 7 handled the refresh rates differently.

Edit -

Thought I'd posted this earlier (but I can't find it) -- Here's his final response.

Forget what I said! Great news - after further testing, I realized what the problem is. Automatically detecting the refresh rate doesn't seem to work in Windows 7 as it previously did (again, I've NO idea how this could be causing a BSOD).



Edited by InlandAZ (12/01/09 11:24 PM)

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#573030 - 12/01/09 11:38 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: InlandAZ]
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It might actually be in this thread, Inland. I remember that both of us found Agustin's solution on the website the same night.
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#573044 - 12/02/09 01:42 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
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You mentioned it on the second page of this thread, Inland -- at least it's on the second page for me after I log in: Post #563685 - November 02, 2009 11:33 AM

And the info was originally on the ***nucleosys forum***

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#573046 - 12/02/09 01:54 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
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I have been testing my installers under Win7 and have yet to encounter any issues. There are a lot of "under the hood" changes to Windows 7. Not that it affects games, but one bug that I had to deal with for my installers in Vista has thankfully fixed. It was with the file copy dialog. After a large file has been copied from a CD, the copy dialog will remain until another message box, other than another file copy dialog, is generated.

With some of the larger FMV games like Phantasmagoria or GK2, when enough of these dialog boxes pile up, the installer can crash. The NSIS developers are aware of this, but dismiss it as just a Windows bug. I have developed a workaround to it, but it gives the installer a bit of a pulsing look as the installer looses and regains focus.

So far from this thread it looks like most of the games that ran on Vista will run on Win7 in spite of these changes, even if a few, like Scratches need a bit of an extra tweak.

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#574409 - 12/06/09 12:23 AM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Collector]
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I was inspired by a new member, Sincerely Sam, to install and see how Keepsake did in my 64-bit Windows 7 and it was perfect, so will add to my first post.
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#575135 - 12/07/09 10:30 PM Re: Windows 7 and Games [Re: Draclvr]
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I am taking the advice of you all and getting Windows 7 Pro. My computer man is ordering it and will come out and put it in when it comes. I can't wait because according to all of you I will be able to play most of my XPs. Thanks for all the info I got from this thread. Will let you know how it does.


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