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#605186 - 03/12/10 11:34 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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Thank you, bigmamma1 - got it!
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#605402 - 03/13/10 05:38 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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waveDrac-glad it helped-have fun with the game!

bravoFinally made it past my problem place in Waterloo World-Yippeee!Now, on to Black Velvetopia-am about to use the brain portal on Edgar the artist
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#605407 - 03/13/10 05:51 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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I just defeated the cookie lady. I can hardly wait to see what evil lurks around the next corner!
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#605462 - 03/13/10 10:27 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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So. Anyone wanna guess how I got this (shrunken but unedited) screenshot? rolleyes

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#605466 - 03/13/10 11:17 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: Demosthenes]
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Were we looking through the eyes of a crow?? I'm trying to figure out where this even IS!
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#605468 - 03/13/10 11:30 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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Nope! As you can see at the bottom right of the screen, I wasn't using clairvoyance. I had three powers equipped: Psi Blast, Telekinesis and Levitation.

As for where it was, I believe it's somewhere near the GPC. I'll take a quick check in a moment to confirm.

[EDIT] Yep, just outside the GPC.


Edited by Demosthenes (03/13/10 11:37 PM)
Edit Reason: Practicing my telekinesis

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#605474 - 03/13/10 11:55 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: Demosthenes]
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Holy jeepers! Now, levitation is my favorite power, but I don't see how you could have gotten that high??? Were you able to get up to a particularly high place and go a-bouncing? OK, now I recognize those rocks. I've got to go check this out...
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#605475 - 03/14/10 12:00 AM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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When you find the location, you'll be halfway there.

But you'll also need the other part of the mystery.

Here's a clue.

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#605476 - 03/14/10 12:04 AM Re: Psychonauts [Re: Demosthenes]
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grin You are diabolical, Demosthenes. I found the rocks, but I'll be darned if I can get Raz to have this view! Curses, now I'll have to figure this out before I go in to defeat the theater critic...
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#605485 - 03/14/10 12:36 AM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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Of course, one of the side-effects of the enormous red arrow I drew is that it distracts you from this little section, which is the key to the whole mystery.

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#605691 - 03/14/10 06:10 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: Demosthenes]
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I climbed up to the top of the post in the GPC where the challenge marker was and I can see where your point of view might have been. Plus I was up on the rocks and saw the crow at the top of the one pointier rock, but for the life of me I can't get to a vantage point up there! I also can't figure out what the sparkly thing is by the crow either...

My brain was already fried after doing our taxes, so after spending about an hour trying to figure this one out, I will cry "uncle!"
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#605695 - 03/14/10 06:44 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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It's not like I really gave you much to go on, given the complexity involved. evil

This whole mess involves understanding how the telekinesis power functions (or, as in my case, stumbling across a "glitch" and working it out later.) Unlike some of the other powers, Telekinesis roots Raz in place until the player lets go of the appropriate button. If he's in midair at the time, Raz will fall straight down until he hits the ground.

The camera, however, focuses not on Raz (like usual) but on the person or object you're moving with your mind. This is true no matter how far away Raz happens to be at the time: to compensate, the camera just zooms out a bit so you can see Raz in the corner of the screen.

Then there's the crow. If you climb to the very top of the nearby rock tower, you can see the crow, but if you stand there you'll find the crow is too far away for your powers to work on it.

Using the levitation power you can jump almost high enough to touch the crow.

Almost.

By jumping that high, you also just barely come close enough to use your psychic powers. Near the peak of your jump, you can use various powers, such as pyrokinesis, but unlike the other birds in the game, you can't actually harm the bird.

On that note, the orange thing floating above the bird in the picture is Raz's Telekinesis power in action. Unlike the other attack powers, it lasts as long as the telekinesis button is depressed. Since you can't interact with the bird, the bird stays rooted to the spot rather than lifting into the air.

Normally if you just jump up above the cliff using levitation and use telekinesis on the bird at the peak of your jump (just after landing on the cliff in front of the bird), a glowing orange hand appears above the bird, and Raz falls straight down, back to the top of the cliff. The total distance between the bird and Raz is only a few feet, so nothing unusual happens.

But if you jump a little to the left before using telekinesis, then you'll be hovering over the edge of the cliff. When Raz falls downwards, he lands on the sloped wall to the left of the cliff, and then slides all the way into the valley at the base of those tall trees in the picture.

As long as you keep the telekinesis button depressed, the center of the camera remains fixed on the bird and the glowing hand. But because Raz is so far away, the camera zooms way out in order to include him in the picture (even though he's actually behind a wall at this point.) You can even rotate the camera, which rotates through an enormous swath of the forest (and the GPC) as it attempts to keep both Raz and the bird in the frame.

I haven't tested it just yet, but I suspect the same trick will work for any sufficiently tall object with an interactive character near the top of it (such as the top of the lodge, during certain parts of the game.)

[EDIT] Actually the crow may be a special case. You can't use telekinesis unless you're on the ground. So you have to land on the conveniently sloped grass in front of the crow, then use telekinesis while sliding back down. Land a little to the left, and you'll slide past the cliff. There aren't many places in the game where a character stands on a cliff that's too steep to stand on. For some reason.


Edited by Demosthenes (03/14/10 06:57 PM)
Edit Reason: Correction
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#605707 - 03/14/10 07:23 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: Demosthenes]
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I love it... a goal for after I finish this game. So that's TK on the crow; I'd have guess PK. I have got to at least give this a try.

Someone was having way too much fun with their mental powers here!
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#605708 - 03/14/10 07:23 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: bigmamma1]
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Not unique.

Just harder to pull off. And not quite as impressive looking.

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#605709 - 03/14/10 07:25 PM Re: Psychonauts [Re: Demosthenes]
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Looks pretty impressive to me! Just not as interesting as the little "anomoly" above the crow in the other one...
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