Again - 461 235 is the derived clue - not the solution.

What are the numbers you get from the panel under the dice pictures?
I will transpose them using 461 235 for you.

I GOT IT!!Finally. When all else fails read instructions first!! Thank you SO much for your patience. I had to think about the pad puzzle after a couple of failed attempts realized what I was doing wrong. That one is hard to do. Am in the room i with the houses and chimneys now. Hopefully you wont hear from me for awhile again!! You are probably thinking I hope so too. LOL!! Have a great day Mag. I have said it before and cant say it enough times what would us boomers do without you and other dedicated guides. Thank you at times is not enough. Take care and walk safe paths.

Great that you got through the pad puzzle.

Have a nice happy day and night also.

Thanks Mag hit a snag at the candle puzzle though I missed the coin in the north area sure thought I picked it up so have to go back there and find it. Then go back to the candles to figure out that one. Always something!!

You'll get there. Just take it slow and easy. Have fun.

I went back to the north tram exit and found the gold piece inside the glass globe I had already pulled the lever to make it drop. WT said we will find where it goes later. Where did it go? I have read through the WT and cant find the place where the gold piece was to have gone.I followed the greem tube but it ends with no outside exit and where it looks like it exits the door wont open there are hands pointing both ways on the sides of those 2 doors. Is that the coin for the candle puzzle?

Yes - those are the coins.
If you finished the north area earlier, you should have opened that side door beside the wall cabinet (with numbers) puzzle. This opens the side path of the 2 building on the left and where you placed the red ball earlier.

The panel where the coins went is just to the left as soon as you entered this side path.

I had one coin in inventory were there more there at the panel. If so I cant find the panel. I found the red ball container but not the coin panel.

Use that coin then.
The panel is on the wall (left side) of the walkway after you entered that entryway after the cabinet-number panel. You have press a red button to open that panel. This is before the red ball tube thing.

I think I found it. It was empty no coins there. I have one metal object in my inventory and that is all it is the 2nd metal object. I need the coins to change the color on the candles. I only had one I used it and it only made the first candle light white which according to the chart is not the right color.

Dutch,

My apologies. Yes - you get a metal piece from that globe puzzle-cabinet.

The coins are taken after the door puzzle inside the building at North area.

np Mag. I figured out to use the one coin over and over again to change the color of the candles. The confusing part was when I went to the WT it said coins so I thought there were more coins to use. Got the candle thing solved so now onward and upward. The portraits really look like they are going to be fun to solve. LOL!!

Have fun.

Could you please also send me the same saved game.

Thank You

Alan

I hope I sent you the correct saved game. My saves are not labeled. CYE.