Hi Rowan, Well done
The cave is the same. There is a ledge above the skeleton but it is difficult to see. I actually got up there and looted everything in the Embassy. The method I used to get on the ledge was: climb the angled log at one end of the cave, turn around and face the ledge, use whirlwind sprint on a spot to the right of the pillar. It took me about 30 tries but it finally worked when I aimed further to the right than I thought necessary

Gotta try that, manxman....right after I go peel potatoes in real life.

Good luck and perseverence
Life should not interfere with our playing Skyrim

Hi all,

Well I have Illia as a follower and of course my trusty steed Shadowmere and in one of my battles they decided that they didn't like each other very much and started fighting each other. Fortunately I was able to mount Shadowmere and ride off away from Illia and out of her range. I then finally fast traveled to a town and they seemed to have made up and were friendly once again. I had a talk with both of them reminding them that they were on the same side and it seemed to work for a while and then later on another battle they had another disagreement and I had to repeat the same thing all over again. I think I've finally patched things up between them because they seem to be civil to each other now.

Just hope I can keep the peace.

That has happened to me, too, Oldman, but with other followers. I think some of the magic using enemies must have put one of those spells on them where they will attack any nearby person randomly. I usually reload and try to kill the bad guys with speedier tactics to prevent them from casting their spell. But doing what you do works, too.

Manxman, I've tried that shout in the cave and keep smashing myself against the wall under the ledge.

Rowan, I know exactly how you feel, it took me many, many tries before I made it. My only advice is to try to get as far up the log as possible, aim progressively more to the right and keep trying and trying. The good news is that it does work

Well, I tried to make my own mod to marry Jorn. Alas, it was not meant to be. The marriage dialogue worked fine, we made it to the church and had the ceremony and everything. Unfortunately he just won't live in my house with me. He just stands around in the courtyard of the bard's college all day and plays his drum. Doesn't even sleep. It's not healthy, I told him. He tells me he'll see me at home and proceeds to keep playing his drum. I'm just about ready to give up with it.


Unlike Celine Dion's heart, My Jorn will not go on. *sighs*

AnneG have you tried advancing the time to see if he eventually shows up?

I did. I probably waited a total of three or four days game time. I did it at Honeyside and at the bard's college courtyard to see if he ever actually went anywhere at all. He never seemed to move from that spot.

Anne, he's a musician. They never come home. Always at one gig or another, hanging around some local dive, or worse, on the road with a busload of bad influences and loose women. Just be thankful he doesn't have any groupies hanging about.

Hagatha

AnneG, I think he just has a really bad sense of direction (like me) and is afraid to move for fear he will get lost.

My question is two fold. I have three items in my inventory that I can not store or drop because the message states that they are Quest items. I have completed the three Quest that needed these items. Bard's College Quest-Finn's Lute, Pantea's Flute and Rjorn's Drum. Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get them out of my inventory? How do I sell items? I can buy items but I never get the opportunity to sell.

Kazzmo, I don't know how to get rid of finished quest items either. I know they take up weight in my inventory.

To sell an item go to a shopkeeper and select the question about what they have for sale. Then go to the left of the screen where they show the shopkeeper's inventory and your own. Scroll down past your name then you can select items you want to sell out of various groups. In the beginning I made the same error by just not scrolling down enough to see my own items.

Those item are bugged, they stick in your inventory as quest items even when the quests are done

If you are playing on pc, you can use the console to get rid of them after the quests are finished.
The codes are:
Finn's Lute:
player.removeitem 000DABAB 1
Pantea's Flute:
player.removeitem 000DABA7 1
Bjorn's Drum:
player.removeitem 000DABA9 1

I think you are stuck with them if you play on a console.

Caroline.

Kazz, Rown's directions for scrolling down seems to bite a lot of people. It bit me and I was really frustrated!

Thanks Carolin, I wonder if a patch will fix it eventually?