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#784326 - 01/30/12 01:36 PM Pahelika Revelations help
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Becky, your hint is horrible! :-)
Click to reveal..

I didn't want to look, but I am stuck, so I looked, and I have no idea what that means. Perfection? Ying and Yang or something like that? I need to find matching doors somehow?

It's strange... first time I answered the questions, he said I answered perfectly, and said something about looking for the hidden...
then, I could never again accomplish perfect answers, but "satisfying" (although I think I answered them exactly the same! I just said what I though, Selfishness is the root of all evil, Fools know only one way, life's an accident, can't prove existence and living a happy, content life! :-)

Hmmm... wanna give me another little push?


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#784343 - 01/30/12 03:04 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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Until Becky comes along, did you know that there is a walkthrough for the game here?

It sounds like an interesting game. wave

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#784347 - 01/30/12 03:10 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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Hi Tomer --

I wanted to make it a very soft hint because I know you don't like spoilers!

I guess it was too soft. lol

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The hint wasn't about the riddles, it was about the markings over the doors. The location itself appears to be in India.


If you download the official Strategy Guide, (scroll down the page to see the Strategy Guide link) it explains what they are looking for in the riddles.

These riddles, like most of the others I've encountered in adventure games, are VERY difficult puzzles because words are such cheats and illusions. grin What the riddle writer sees in words is often very different from what I see in words.

Riddles attempt to obfuscate, and sometimes they do a better job that the riddler is thinking they are doing.

At least it's not too easy, right?

EDIT: -- the Strategy Guide has some background story information at the beginning. The walkthrough part begins on page 10.

If you like, I can post the riddle challenge answers here in a spoiler if you'd rather not look yourself.


Edited by Becky (01/30/12 03:24 PM)

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#784351 - 01/30/12 03:17 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Becky]
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Thanks, Becky. I was pretty sure that Tomer didn't want a walkthrough. laugh

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#784618 - 01/31/12 04:21 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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No, I don't want a walkthrough, but I would appreciate a hint that would take me forwards :-)
I just don't know what to make of it... and since I've tried all doors already, desperate me, I can only assume it's about guessing the correct sequence, or finding a hidden entrance... either way... I wouldn't know how Indians would analyze their hints, but to me they mean nothing :-)
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#784635 - 01/31/12 05:35 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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It sure was a great game I finished it a while back and couldn't have done it without looking at the WT every once in a while. One of the hardest games I have ever played.
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#784642 - 01/31/12 07:14 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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Tomer, I just started playing so I am not that far yet to give you a hint. Hopefully someone that has will be able to help you soon.

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#784643 - 01/31/12 07:23 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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The numbers above the doors, from what I can tell, are
Click to reveal..
in sanskrit.


I didn't figure this out on my own -- I got through the door by sheer luck, and then later on looked back at the strategy guide. Here's how the strategy guide numbers the doors:

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Door no. 8, The last door. The Top Row, Rightmost.
Door no. 1, The first door. Bottom
Row, Left most.
Door no. 2 Bottom Row, Second From Left.
Door No. 4, The Bottom Row, Rightmost. The number of the door is hidden.


If that's not enough help, I can tell you that

Click to reveal..
You aren't looking for a sequence, you're looking for just one door, and that door is related to the response of the last head who talks right before you have to choose a door.


If that's not enough, let me know and I'll post what the strategy guide says under another spoiler tag.

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#784644 - 01/31/12 07:24 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Becky]
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Thank you, Becky. smile

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#784703 - 02/01/12 03:32 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
Tomer Offline
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Thanks a lot Becky.
Even after reading your three hints, I wasn't able to solve it without guessing the doors - and I tried that only because you said it's not about a sequence.

I still don't get it.
The head said "it's not perfection, but completion you must seek", so I tried googeling Sanskrit completion, I tried "8", I tried 5, I tried 7, and eventually the last door I tried was "1" and it worked... lol.
That's not Rhem, my dear :-)

Thanks again!
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#784710 - 02/01/12 04:27 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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Glad you got through! I agree that riddles often can be interpreted any which way. I haven't encountered any more riddles in this game (that I can recall).

According to the strategy guide, the riddle you got says
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that it's not completion, but perfection that you should seek. Their interpretation of that into a number is that -Perfection equals number one.





Edited by Becky (02/01/12 04:34 AM)

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#784711 - 02/01/12 04:40 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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Well, I would sum it up as a very bad puzzle smile
Right now, I'm stuck at the library,
Click to reveal..

trying to set the story correctly...
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#784721 - 02/01/12 07:52 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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Still seeking perfection? evil

You know I admire your brains and persistence. wave


(Let me know if you want a hint for the picture arrangement puzzle.)


Edited by Becky (02/01/12 08:19 AM)

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#784740 - 02/01/12 10:16 AM Pahelika Revelations
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I'm playing Pahelika Revelations and really love the game but am stuck. There is a story in a journal which I believe should match a tile puzzle I am working on. Question is should the tiles match the journal as written or the logic of the story in the journal? Hope I am explaining this right. Thanks Becky this is a great game!!!
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#784749 - 02/01/12 11:00 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: rockingrjranch]
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Hi Rockinjranch, have you checked the strategy guide here?

I am not that far yet in the game so I am not sure.

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#784753 - 02/01/12 11:10 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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A bit off topic, but how does the demo compare to the remaining stages? Is it much easier or about the same?

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#784760 - 02/01/12 11:43 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Coreoverload]
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I haven't played the game, Core, so am not in a position to answer your question. I'm sure others will be able to weigh in on this. wave

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#784805 - 02/01/12 03:32 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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Rockinjranch -- Does it follow the story in the journal or the logic? Well,
Click to reveal..
mostly the journal. The first 8 tiles are close to the journal, I thought.
The only thing confusing about the first two tiles is that
Click to reveal..
the bird in the boy's arms looks sort of alive -- well, it isn't -- it's dead.


I recommend arranging the first 8 tiles
Click to reveal..
the way you think they should be and then messing around a bit with the last four in different positions.


Marian mentioned another walkthrough earlier in this thread -- it's here.


Core -- assuming that the demo is the beginning of the game, it is easier than the rest of the game which to me became quite difficult in the section with the house and all its out-of-the-box security precautions.

And it wasn't exactly easy even before that. lol


Edited by Becky (02/01/12 03:43 PM)

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#784826 - 02/01/12 05:01 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
Tomer Offline
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Me again, needing help:
I'm in the academy. There are these word puzzles to solve.
My question is, am I supposed to somehow know everyone and everything in the game in order to solve it? I read the hints. Well, I don't know "Rullul Jallul" good enough nor do I know what "Bluuguulll mujjuuulll" real name is... I don't quite follow the plot... can I solve it despite that or will I have you telling me the answer? :-)
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#784827 - 02/01/12 05:04 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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"There's definitely definitely definitely no logic to human behaviour."

Or to this game apparently. <g>

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#784829 - 02/01/12 05:09 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
Tomer Offline
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lol, oh no... is that a hint for me, traveler? Should I then simply consult a walkthrough?

(did I mention this game has nothing to do with Rhem other than being a 1-person game? :-) )

**Update: I have :-\ It actually made since, this puzzle!


Edited by Tomer (02/01/12 05:17 PM)
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#784839 - 02/01/12 05:48 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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No, tomer, no hint. It was just my screwy sense of humor. <g>

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#784848 - 02/01/12 06:31 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Becky]
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Originally Posted By: Becky



Core -- assuming that the demo is the beginning of the game, it is easier than the rest of the game which to me became quite difficult in the section with the house and all its out-of-the-box security precautions.



Well, when you put it that way... let me put it this way: I just downloaded the game (legally, of course). I like a challenge.

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#784849 - 02/01/12 06:40 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Coreoverload]
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Good luck, Core! It sounds like a very challenging game. Let us know how it goes. smile

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#784850 - 02/01/12 06:46 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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Core -- good for you! I hope the challenge lives up to expectations. wave

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#784851 - 02/01/12 07:00 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
Tomer Offline
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I'm done with the game. Well, it was somewhat entertaining, but hardly an "adventure"...
Some of the puzzles were nice, some exhausting. Some a little more creative, some less.

Things I found hardest:
Click to reveal..

-Sanskrit numbers!!
-Terrible two-number-rings puzzle towards the end!!
-Building up the story in 12 tiles


By the way, I had a strange bug along the game - the speaking in the cut scenes kept getting stuck. Did anyone else have that? I didn't really had the energy to bother with it, but it was kind of annoying...
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#784860 - 02/01/12 07:48 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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That was fast! I haven't reached that middle challenge in the spoiler tag yet.

Something to look forward to.

I did not have the trouble you mentioned with the cut scenes.

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#785218 - 02/03/12 10:00 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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Hello! Can anyone tell me why I can't get the lock on the stone house to open? I have collected all five hints, have read a walk through and have placed them in every configuration I can think of. Some help would be appreciated. : >)

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#785220 - 02/03/12 10:05 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: cwyldy]
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welcome to GameBoomers, cwyldy. smile Hopefully one of the players of this game will come along and offer you some assistance. wave

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#785223 - 02/03/12 10:25 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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Thanks, Marlan

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#785224 - 02/03/12 10:25 AM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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There are two car rim look alikes that look very similar. One has a hole in the center and the other doesn't. Be sure you don't have them mixed up.

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#785320 - 02/03/12 06:12 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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OK, I finally got it! Thanks any way.

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#785322 - 02/03/12 06:21 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations [Re: Tomer]
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Glad you got it!

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#785354 - 02/03/12 09:34 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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Wow, that number spinner puzzle is brutal. I finally cheated a bit...

Click to reveal..
I took some tiles from Rummikub, started from the solution, worked backwards 15 unique steps, writing all the changes down. Then I tried to get to one of my "solutions." I couldn't for the life of me get to the 15th step, but somehow I made it to the 12th. From there, it was simply following my own walkthrough. smile

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#785359 - 02/03/12 09:49 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Tomer]
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I haven't gotten there yet, but it sounds tough!

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#785710 - 02/05/12 03:40 PM Re: Pahelika Revelations help [Re: Coreoverload]
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Originally Posted By: Coreoverload
Wow, that number spinner puzzle is brutal. I finally cheated a bit...

Click to reveal..
I took some tiles from Rummikub, started from the solution, worked backwards 15 unique steps, writing all the changes down. Then I tried to get to one of my "solutions." I couldn't for the life of me get to the 15th step, but somehow I made it to the 12th. From there, it was simply following my own walkthrough. smile


Impressive!
I just tried it till it worked :-)
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