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Help Asylum get on Steam! #835296
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Asylum, the new adventure game by Senscape, opened its page up on Steam Greenlight.

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Decay surrounds you, dread around every corner. You feel imprisoned while traversing the endless corridors... Asylum is a chilling journey through the intricate floors of the Hanwell Mental Institute, in which unimaginable atrocities have occurred in the past. Over four years in production, this horror adventure aims to marry cutting edge visuals with thrilling storytelling to give you the ultimate experience in fear. From the designer of the award-winning and cult sleeper hit Scratches.


Features
A mature and disturbing horror storyline that will haunt you for years to come
High definition graphics that remain sharp on the largest monitors
One of the biggest virtual buildings ever created for a game
Around 100 rooms to explore in breathtaking detail
Featuring the voice of industry veteran Josh Mandel
Over 15 hours of gameplay estimated


You can vote for Asylum or put it among your favourite in order for the game to be released to Steam rah

For further details about Asylum and to play the teaser, visit the Official Website.


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835297
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Voted! I'm sure they'll make it. It's Agustin's.

Thanks, Carla!

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Voted! wink


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835304
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Thanks Carla! On my way to vote. wave

Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835308
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Just Voted smile

Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835310
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Fabulous! rah
Tried to vote twice but it wouldn't let me. blush
Really hope this makes it on steam soon!

Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835312
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I have not been able to get logged in for two days now. It's very frustrating. I keep trying and it won't let me get passed the captcha's.

I am behind Agustin all the way and will keep trying.

Ana wave


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835329
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Voted.

Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Jarkeld] #835463
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Voted, I think. Is that just affirming I would buy this game on Steam?

Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835470
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Yes, you just state that you would likely buy this game when released on Steam: enough people wanting to buy it -> greenlight.

Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835562
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Thank you, dear Boomers! You're the best. I never thanked you for your comments after the Interactive Teaser (no idea where that post is right now). Just let me tell you that we took note of everything you mentioned and we will address all your concerns (especially when it comes to the interface).

We want to turn Asylum into THE horror experience that you won't ever forget. Oh, yes <grin>

Also, I've compiled a list of promising adventures on Steam Greenlight that could use some support. Please, take a look and consider voting those that catch your interest:

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=96152495

Thanks!


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835620
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Voted!

However for what I see many more votes are needed, at the bottom it says - This game has attained 1% of necessary positive ratings so far.


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835643
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Thanks for the list!

It's not clear that the games need to reach that full 100% positive ratings as much as it's important to get out in front of the pack in terms of votes. If Steam is ready to greenlight another 10 games in (for instance) two weeks, they will probably take the leaders, even if none have actually achieved 100% yet.

Still, it's clear that votes from the adventure community for adventure games that are on the Greenlight list are extremey important.

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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835669
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The math involved here is very obscure. My assumption is that votes are slowly validated over time. Even if thousands and thousands of users vote on the first day, the game still wouldn't be approved.

Also, I think that positive rankings will grow exponentially. This is just a hunch. In other words, it will take us a lot of work to reach, say, 10%, but beyond that point it should be no-brainer to become approved.

Things I've noticed:

- Being in collections can be a HUGE boost. In case you don't know, you can create your own collection and pick any games you want (just like I did above). Many of these are followed by thousands of users, and the simple fact of being collected can increase the awareness of the title.

- Favorites are a boost as well. It's always best to vote up and include in favorites the games you like.

- Comment. Always comment, even if it's a "Yay!".

All these things can help to increase the popularity of game.

We seem to be doing OK so far, but other terrific adventures are stuck in 0% (ie: The Sea Will Claim Everything). I'm honestly very worried about this: even a well-established publisher like dtp couldn't include directly a high profile game like Gray Matter and is forced to resort to Greenlight. It makes sense as I was told by a Steam executive that "adventures don't sell".

We REALLY need to work together and help as many games as we can, otherwise I'm afraid the future of the genre on Steam looks very grim frown


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835846
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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835851
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Does the percentage indicate that a game must achieve 100% of a pre-set (by Steam) individual goal in terms of positive votes?

Or does the percentage indicate the "cut" of positive votes that a particular game has as a portion of all positive votes for all games on Greenlight?

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Apparently, the positive ratings is a very loose indicative of the interest behind the game. It's not strictly necessary to reach 100%. Take a look at this comment of a (supposedly) Steam mod:

http://cl.ly/JUwV

So if there's enough interest, they get in touch with developers regardless of percentage. More the reason to support as many adventures as we can smile


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835895
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This is indeed sad :-\ Either we're not enough, or there isn't enough awareness.
There are also many adventure gamers who oppose steam and the whole on-line thingy which might be holding it back (adventure gamers tend to fear progress smile )


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835898
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There are many reasons to prefer disk versions, or DRM-free versions -- fearing progress doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it -- though I will admit that (in my admittedly limited experience) people in general do tend to resist change. cool

Yet another reason to hesitate with Steam (frankly) is that it can seem more difficult to use than some of the other online stores, and has something of a reputation as a place for action gamers.

I don't think we should be sad. It's early days yet with Greenlight, and everybody is experimenting/feeling their way.

I find the statement that Agustin posted a link to is actually quite encouraging about the possibilities. If we (the adventure game community) need to be a presence on Steam Greenlight in order to assist the release of more adventure games in the future, we can add that to our repertoire. evil


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Tomer] #835909
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Originally Posted By: Tomer

There are also many adventure gamers who oppose steam and the whole on-line thingy which might be holding it back (adventure gamers tend to fear progress smile )


I find that just a teeny, weeny, infinitesimal bit elitist. What, exactly, is the progress that adventure gamers oppose fear, aside from the obvious aversion to Steam and its restrictions that I, for one, have?
The inclusion of action elements? Retro (otherwise known as old pixel) graphics? Cheap, slideshow cutscenes? Games that are not games but "emotional experiences"?

Gil.


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Becky] #835910
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"There are many reasons to prefer disk versions, or DRM-free versions -- fearing progress doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it .... "

It definitely doesn't in my case !!

I just really don't want to have to join yet another site that has "controls" of any kind duh


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Carla] #835917
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I believe what Tomer suggested is that adventure gamers tend to adopt new trends slower than the rest. For example: boxes. I still see many fans stating that they won't buy an adventure if its released in digital form only.

In a way, he made a point. Digital isn't a passive trend... it IS the future, like it or not. Retail is dying, especially in North America.

Of course, there are other choices for your online shopping (ie: GOG). However, Steam accounts for roughly 70% sales of ALL PC games. Just to put things into perspective...


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Re: Help Asylum get on Steam! [Re: Agustin Cordes] #835920
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Agustin,

Tomer made a sweeping statement that had the word "fear" in it.

As for digital, I have no problem with it if there's no DRM attached, no client to go through. My downloaded games don't get scratched. Of course, if they're terrible, I don't have the option of sailing them out the window.

If your game ever comes to GOG, believe me, I'll buy it.

Gil.


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When a steam executive says adventure games don't sell, he/she is right of course. We all know that steam doesn't sell any games at all but only allows you to play them on their conditions.

And if it was meant that adventuregames don't do well under their conditions I can only see that as a good thing.
Just wondering if a GOG executive would say that adventures don't sell there.

Will Asylum be available from any drm free source? If there was a similar initiative to get it on gog I'll support it right away.

edit: what traveler said (as usual on this subject)

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Originally Posted By: Agustin Cordes
I believe what Tomer suggested is that adventure gamers tend to adopt new trends slower than the rest. For example: boxes. I still see many fans stating that they won't buy an adventure if its released in digital form only.

In a way, he made a point. Digital isn't a passive trend... it IS the future, like it or not. Retail is dying, especially in North America.

Of course, there are other choices for your online shopping (ie: GOG). However, Steam accounts for roughly 70% sales of ALL PC games. Just to put things into perspective...


I'm not disagreeing with everything you say as I am fully aware that downloading appears to be taking over from the boxed, disk versions I so much prefer.

What I dislike intensely, as I have already said, is the "control" factor.
For instance .. I MUST join a site before I can even buy a game and having joined the site I MUST then allow the site "control" policies to to take effect before I can play the game I've just bought !!

In some cases, I'm also only allowed to install the game a fixed number of times after which I have to pay more if I wish to play it again - which I feel is absolutely ridiculous.

I would willingly pay a little more per game and always buy direct from the developer, to get a disk version, as that way I know the developer would get a better return for his product. But either not too many developers can afford to market their games "totally" in such a fashion or they simply choose not to.

Fortunately, here in the UK, I'm still able to obtain disk versions of most Adventure releases (as has been the case for all the many, many years I have played Adventures) and I'm hoping the facility will continue.


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