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#823514 - 07/17/12 12:17 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: Rowan]
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In the fourth paragraph of the review of this game here, it talks about how spellcasting works. Maybe that will help until someone playing the game comes along to explain it better. wave

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#823518 - 07/17/12 12:40 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Thanks Marian wave

Did that help, Rowan?
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#823597 - 07/17/12 09:23 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Thanks, I figured it out. Onward to other puzzles.

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#823610 - 07/17/12 11:38 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Have fun and luck
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#823726 - 07/18/12 02:43 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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I think I've reached a gamestopping puzzle:

I am on level 4 called Archives in the Time and Tide section. I'm in front of a pressure plate with some open pits ahead of that. As soon as I step on the pressue plate there are 3 ticks and a portal opens ahead. I'm supposed to throw an object at the portal and the portal is supposed to carry the object to another pressure plate beside it. That will close the pit in front of me so I can progress. If I miss the portal then my object just falls into an open pit. However, I have hit the portal several times and my object ends up in another area beside me but not on the pressure plate.

Is this a glitch or do I have to go mad with the timing of this puzzle? insane

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#823732 - 07/18/12 03:09 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Rowan, the walkthrough at GameBanshee sounds as if you have to get the timing just right.

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Time and Tide & Secret Room

This area's puzzles are centered around timing and movement - specifically, moving across a series of pits and making effort not to fall in (although you'll be able to return just fine via some handy portals.

The first puzzle involves stepping on a floor switch and waiting for a portal to appear, which deposits the thrown item on the necessary switch. Three Throwing Knives are provided nearby for just that purpose. You'll get three "clicks" when standing on the switch, and the portal will appear on the fourth, so throw at that exact moment. If you're successful, the pits should close up and you'll be able to proceed.

What you may realize after completing this puzzle is that you can teleport yourself once the platforms have been raised over the pits - simply place an item on the floor switch and stand on the second platform from it, and you'll appear inside the room visible through the bars nearby. There's a very nice Book of Infinite Wisdom waiting for you, which grants its reader +5 Skill Points.
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#823739 - 07/18/12 03:34 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Rowan, You have to get the rock to the portal while the blue light is still shining - in other words the rock has to hit the blue light. (Edit: wait a couple of beats before chucking the rock. You'll get to know the timing soon enough).

It really is all about timing in this game, but I'm a total klutz and I've managed to do the timed puzzles after a few tries. There are some fiendish ones, but only one I gave up on (it was not necessary to complete in order to proceed). I amazed myself on a couple of them - didn't think I'd be able to get past them, but did fine.



Edited by hagatha (07/18/12 03:36 PM)
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#823748 - 07/18/12 04:13 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Thanks Hagatha wave

luck Rowan
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#823756 - 07/18/12 04:40 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: looney4labs]
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I still can't get this puzzle. I have read several walkthroughs and none mention that the object may be thrown back beside me. The only thing mentioned are that the object ends up in the pit if I miss or gets thrown on the other ground plate if I hit the portal. I have tried so many times I have lost count and the object gets thrown back beside me, not on the other pressure plate. That is why I'm wondering if it is a glitch. Hagatha, did your thrown object ever land beside you behind the iron bars like mine does?

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#823758 - 07/18/12 04:48 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Rowan, did you try putting an object on the pressure plate and transporting yourself?
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#823766 - 07/18/12 05:18 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Looney, there is a pit in front of me and you cannot jump in this game. Throwing something to the portal beyond the pit is the only option ... except in my case the portal sends the rock to the wrong position in the dungeon.

OK, I finally got it, but it never worked with thrown objects. It did work when I shot a crossbow bolt. I have more points in bows so this may have been a factor. Thanks for suffering with me everyone. thanks


Edited by Rowan (07/18/12 08:17 PM)

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#823809 - 07/18/12 09:11 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Rowan, glad you got past the frustration. There are a couple of tough spots but once you get the hang of things it all makes sense. The more I play, the more impressed I am. Unlike many dungeon crawlers, this one requires you to think and use your imagination to get past puzzles.

One word of advice:
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Some of the puzzles require you to move very quickly. If any or all of your party members are encumbered (snail icon) you will not make it through.


I know I've missed many things in the game, but that's part of its charm; there's a lot to discover. I'm on level 7 and still loving it (had a break to go to Toronto for a couple of weeks). I'm playing on Easy, by the way. I initially started on Normal but built my party members poorly and found myself unable to go on.
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#836920 - 09/20/12 06:27 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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I'm having a hard time at the beginning of level 4 with the two adult herders. I have two fighters up front plus a rogue and a mage. I am mainly relying on my mage with fire and ice spells, plus the rogue has a bow. Those seem to be about the only effective attacks I have, since any melee attacks bring a quick death from poison. So I am running around trying to keep the two ranged fighters alive, but I haven't been able to kill even one of the herders. Is there anything else I can do? We are all at level 5.

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#836967 - 09/20/12 11:34 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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Pokey, I haven't played this. Have you checked on this page?
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#837120 - 09/21/12 01:53 PM Re: Legend of Grimrock [Re: hagatha]
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l4l, I had checked that site and any other I could find. I've looked at several YouTube videos and they seemed to dispatch the Herders without too much trouble. I have hit them many times with spells and melee but can't even kill the first one. It would help if there was a health bar. Maybe I came close. It is a case of being comfortable with using only the keyboard to move. A couple wrong keys and you are dead from poison.

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