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#854312 - 12/06/12 05:06 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Can you believe that this system's power supply is 850 watts...go figure. I have talked to the local PD and they have informed me that my canceled checks and his lat known address is a
starting point and as you have mentioned they feel that he may have or will do to someone else what he has done to me...I will keep you posted.
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#854315 - 12/06/12 05:18 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Well, at least he put in a big power supply. I'm so glad you at least let the local PD know about this. What he did is fraud...

Did he provide you with all the disks for the computer? There should have been at the very least a driver disk for the motherboard and a disk for your Windows 7. It appears he put on a pirated Windows 7, so I'm sure you don't have that disk. But he definitely should have given you your disks.
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#854340 - 12/06/12 08:53 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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I know I said I could play all of my games but alas I spoke too soon. The Black Mirror games will not play on Windows7 and I am finding a few more that will not work. I am not a happy camper with this os and since I have a fake copy installed I was wondering if I could have my ex co-worker install Wxp instead, can that be done? Oh BTW I o have the boxes but since he is a crook there is no telling where he got these boxes.
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#854342 - 12/06/12 08:59 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Visit the Windows 7 and Games thread stickied at the top of the Glitches forum. We have a ton of information about Windows 7 and gaming there. I know a couple of the Black Mirror games wouldn't play, but I think there was a work-around. You might try doing a search in the Glitches forum. I seem to remember Jenny had found a way to get them working. Maybe it was something to do with the copy protection - I can't remember for sure.

You might as well bit the bullet and get used to Windows 7. XP is now in its 12th year and Microsoft will be ceasing support for it in about a year, so it won't be advisable to use it on the internet any more. Windows 7 is much more secure anyway. I'm already running Windows 8.

What boxes are you talking about? Did he give you any disks? You should also have a driver disk for that old video card.
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#854453 - 12/07/12 10:02 AM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Originally Posted By: lexxy
I know I said I could play all of my games but alas I spoke too soon. The Black Mirror games will not play on Windows7 and I am finding a few more that will not work. I am not a happy camper with this os and since I have a fake copy installed I was wondering if I could have my ex co-worker install Wxp instead, can that be done? Oh BTW I o have the boxes but since he is a crook there is no telling where he got these boxes.


The only way to run The Black Mirror under Windows 7 is to install a NoCD patch.

Do a Google search for The Black Mirror NoCD, you'll find it.

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#854471 - 12/07/12 11:03 AM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Originally Posted By: lexxy
I was wondering if I could have my ex co-worker install Wxp instead, can that be done?

It could be done. I'm assuming you have a licensed copy of XP and you're getting someone to install it because you don't know how to install XP and set up all the drivers yourself. Since your computer hardware is old there are probably XP drivers available for all its components. Just remember that Microsoft is scheduled to stop support (Security Updates) for XP in 2014. You'd need to update to Win7 at that time if you want to continue to use the computer on the Internet.

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Oh BTW I do have the boxes but since he is a crook there is no telling where he got these boxes.

Boxes? Do you mean the boxes for the video card and for Windows 7?

See Inland's post about getting Black Mirror working.

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#854598 - 12/07/12 11:49 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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InlandAZ,
Thanks for the info conceernig Black Mirror , I have downloaded the patch and I hope it works. I know I have asked a lot of questions but I have made a decision to keep Windows 7 but my problem is not knowing what software to purchase for my friend to install. I have asked before and I got an educated nswer but I still can't completely wrap my head around the diff between 32 bit and 64 bit. My system is 32bit and I guess I should buy Windows 7 Home Premium, but I have seen the term system builder associated with it and I don't know what it means and further I don't know what mother board is installed. I guess my question is simple do I buy 32 or 64 .
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#854606 - 12/08/12 02:16 AM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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lexxy, think of the difference between 32 bit and 64 bit this way. How much difference is there between a 2 lane highway and a 4 lane highway? Or between a 4 lane highway and an 8 lane highway? It's all a matter of how much faster can something travel on a 4 lane as opposed to a 2 lane. Or 8 lane opposed to a 4 lane.

The electronic highway in a 64 bit computer is bigger than a 32 bit highway.

This Microsoft link lets you compare the difference between the three Win 7 OS available. I am sorry, though, I can't answer which you should get for your 32 bit computer. Were it me I'd go with the 32 bit version for a 32 bit computer.
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#854627 - 12/08/12 06:21 AM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Not sure I understand this. Your system *isn't* 32 bit, it is 64 bit. You have the option of putting a 32 bit or the 64 bit version of Windows on it. If you had a 32 bit system you wouldn't have a choice as it wouldn't be able to run the 64bit version.

The "advantage" of 64bit is is has a greater addressing space which means you can have a greater amount of RAM on your machine. On 32 bit Windows the maximum you can have is about 4gigs. I have tried both versions on my 64bit laptop and speed wise I didn't notice much difference.

Note, programs that are written/compiled specifically for 64bit will have larger executable files which is one of the reasons 64bit Windows needs more memory than 32bit.

Generally there really isnt much advantage with 64bit - Microsoft don't even make a 64bit version of Visual Studio, which is the program that most programmers write their programs on.


Edited by mj2c (12/08/12 06:24 AM)

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#854643 - 12/08/12 09:09 AM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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mj2c,
Are you sure my system is 64bit? I did the dix as was suggested and I got the follow: O/S Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit (6.1, build 7601 Service pack 1 (7601 win7sp1_120830-0333. I don't know what all of those numbers mean but I thought the fact that it said 32bit that is what I have.
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#854654 - 12/08/12 09:47 AM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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It means you've got 32bit Windows installed but your CPU is 64bit and can run either 32bit or 64bit Windows.

Notice where it says instruction set
http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI


Edited by mj2c (12/08/12 09:59 AM)

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#854662 - 12/08/12 10:34 AM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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mj2c is correct - what you're looking at is what the guy installed as an operating system. What you need to be looking at is your processor - that Intel Core i7 920. Your processor can run either 32-bit or 64-bit. The advantage of 64-bit is that you can always upgrade your RAM to 8 GB and the operating system will recognize and use it. If you put in a 32-bit operating system, you can put all the RAM in the world in your computer and the operating system will not be able to see it or use it.
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#854689 - 12/08/12 12:31 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Lexxy,
You should try to find out what type of motherboard you have before buying more memory.
It's possible that a utility like CPU-Z can identify your motherboard for you.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

In case you're confused, mainboard and motherboard are the same thing.

You can download CPU-Z directly from here
http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.62-setup-en.exe

One thing you should consider is how much longer you're going to keep this computer. If you're going to buy another one in a couple of years, you may not need to upgrade it (beyond getting a valid copy of Windows). It's unlikely that any adventure games will require more than 4GB of system memory in the next two years -- or that they'd need more than a Radeon HD 4800. I'm not so sure about Darkside games though.

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#854690 - 12/08/12 12:42 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Good advice - knowing what motherboard this guy used will help a lot.
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#854744 - 12/08/12 04:41 PM Re: Fake Windows7 software [Re: lexxy]
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Jenny100 ,
That link was very helpful as it showed me what motherbaord this system has. The read out said Manufacturer is ASUSTek,Computer Inc,Model P6t. It had all sorts of info concerning the memory, Bios etc but thank God for all who have helped me make a informed decision and a 64bit is what I will go for now. I don't plan on buying another computer within the next couple of years so this will probably be my swan song. One last silly question to anyone who is still listening to my woes, do I buy a full Windows7 Home Premium as oposed to an up grade. I ask this question because the tech told me he will have to completely reformat my hard drive and do a complete new install as though the fake one never existed. I hope what I said makes sense, After I buy the software I put it in his hands and hope for the best. You people are the best and I thank each and everyone who has come to my aid.
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