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#872732 - 03/08/13 05:35 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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Second day hint: it's all the rage! (and the answer has three ts) grin grin


Edited by Lex (03/09/13 03:24 AM)
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#872791 - 03/09/13 06:30 AM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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This was a clue from a puzzle in a paper which we found quite challenging but I was not expecting it to hang around this long! Therefore I will reclue it more conventionally:

Try endless tail on dog for frontrunner (11 or could perhaps be written as 5,6) catrub
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#872798 - 03/09/13 08:14 AM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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S'gotta be something "setter" with a dog and all those "t"s

Trendsetter (although I can't explain it fully other than "all the rage" is a trend)
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#872832 - 03/09/13 12:06 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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try endless = tr
tail = end
dog = setter

You did it, Rog! bravo
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#872836 - 03/09/13 12:21 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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Rex, can you explain how the original works?
All I can "see" is a single definition.
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#872838 - 03/09/13 12:23 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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A good collaborative effort from Sue and Rog;
rage = height of fashion (as in "it's all the rage"), and one held responsible for that is a trendsetter (who therefore has many followers), alternatively frontrunner as alternatively clued and explained by Sue.

Denis, the original clue is a single definition, the wordplay being the unusual meaning of rage (used without "the"), as signalled by the question mark.

Over to you Rog ===[**WCF**]===


Edited by Lex (03/09/13 12:28 PM)
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#872851 - 03/09/13 01:27 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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Thanks Lex, and thanks Sue - shoulda seen that!

Gather it's reverse charge in America (7)
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#872855 - 03/09/13 01:45 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: Lex]
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Originally Posted By: Lex

Denis, the original clue is a single definition, the wordplay being the unusual meaning of rage (used without "the"), as signalled by the question mark.

Since when is a "single definition" clue legal?

Rubber stopper on icy surface?(6,6) = hockey goalie
Legal?

Ain't complaining; only saying if we don't
know single definition is ok, then impossible to solve.
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#872858 - 03/09/13 01:56 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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I didn't even look back at the first one.

One held responsible for rage? (11)

I don't think that's a cryptic. It's more of a crossword clue.

Other opinions? Or should I just beat him and have done with it. wink
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#872914 - 03/09/13 10:50 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: Urban Worrier]
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collect (double defn) wave
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#872944 - 03/10/13 05:55 AM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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Well done, manxman - collect this at your leisure! ===[**WCF**]=== grin
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#872957 - 03/10/13 07:51 AM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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Rubber stopper on icy surface?(6,6) = hockey goalie
Legal?


Yes, in my view, with the same qualification as Pandora mentions: not a cryptic but a valid crossword clue nevertheless (as long as there is a kink/quirk of some kind to provide a measure of obfuscation). smile

As it says in our introductory spiel to this thread, anything from the worldwide crossword arena passes muster.


Edited by Lex (03/10/13 07:59 AM)
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#873010 - 03/10/13 12:09 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: Urban Worrier]
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Thanks UW wave

Dog swallowing number one whale product (5,3)
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#873027 - 03/10/13 02:12 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: CanukDenis]
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Train oil = a whale product (also known as whale oil) - trail (dog/follow) containing (swallowing) noi (number one).

Not an expression with which I was familiar, but it had to be some sort of oil from whales. smile


Edited by Lex (03/10/13 02:13 PM)
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#873033 - 03/10/13 03:19 PM Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt - Bout 65 [Re: Lex]
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Well done Lex, wear it ===[**WCF**]=== with pride smile
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