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#878787 - 04/06/13 01:58 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thank you InlandAZ

This will make me more diligent in finding the right size. At the ATX Power site they have a conversion function to find a compatible PSU. They show 3 for my rig, 2 are exactly the same dimensions as each other and the other is just a fraction different. I wonder if any of these would fit. I do find it curious that the 750watt is cheaper than the 600watt and both not that much more than the 450watt. I wonder how noisy they are. ATX Power Supply Dell XPS 410

I haven't opened my case to measure the existing size yet. I want to finish my Mothers Taxes before I take a chance on doing something wrong and not be able to use the computer. April 15th is just around the corner.

Draclvr

I have been convinced by all the topics I read here at Glitches that my next rig will probably be built from CyberPower or, I can't remember the name of the other Online place suggested here. These places look to use normal parts that can be easily upgraded. But I don't foresee me getting into a new unit for quite some time as all my XP's are doing me fine for now. Maybe around Windows 10 lol I remember I used Win 98 for quite a while even though NT, Me & Vista were released. Went from 98 right to XP.
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#878790 - 04/06/13 02:08 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Originally Posted By: GreyFuss
I have been convinced by all the topics I read here at Glitches that my next rig will probably be built from CyberPower or, I can't remember the name of the other Online place suggested here.

Maybe you're thinking of eCollegepc.com

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#878793 - 04/06/13 02:22 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Jenny100]
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Yep...thats the one Jenny...thank you.

I hope both of these sites are still around when I get around to purchasing a new PC.
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#878795 - 04/06/13 02:23 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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And don't forget, Greyfuss, that you should seriously consider taking all XP computers off line after Microsoft ceases support for them in just a year. XP is already considered a security risk compared to the newer operating systems. Another consideration is that you will probably want to go to Windows 7 for your next computer. Although it will be supported until at least 2020, I would look for it to only be sold alongside Windows 8 computers (mostly in business class computers) for another 2 years. If you don't plan on getting a new computer in the next couple of years, I'd grab a copy of Windows 7 sometime when a retailer like Newegg has it on sale for $80. Otherwise, you will be getting Windows 8 and knowing you a little bit, I suspect Windows 8 would cause you to have a stroke! I love it, but something tells me you would not get along well with Windows 8!
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#878798 - 04/06/13 02:29 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks for the advive Draclvr. I guess I am not aware of how an Operating system can be a security risk. Doesn't Firewalls, virus protection, malware and adware protection prevent the computer from being a risk?
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#878799 - 04/06/13 02:35 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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If you're looking for a good quality PSU, shop Antec or Corsair, both have excellent reputations. Do you have a local Fry's Electronics close by?

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#878802 - 04/06/13 02:47 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Frys is not in the upper midwest as far as I know of. I will check Antec and Corsair out Inland. Must have missed any conversations about them although the names do sound familiar to me.


Oops

See why I come here for advice. I thought Antec and Corsair were computer makers... Duh...looking at Antecs web site you were referring me there for the Power supplies. Thanks and just ignore the GreyFuss lurking in the dark corner...you are safe.


Edited by GreyFuss (04/06/13 02:52 PM)
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#878805 - 04/06/13 03:10 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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I also prefer Antec, Corsair or OCZ - good reputations and relatively decent customer service.

No, operating systems are not secure. That's why you get security updates on patch Tuesday every month. They are constantly finding holes and weaknesses and fixing them for us. Firewalls, anti-virus software etc. only protect us from things out there that might infect our computers. They do not protect us from insecurity and bugs in the operating system code itself.

This is but one of many, many blogs and articles on the risks of using XP past it's "end of support" next April.

XP Is Past Its Security Expiration Date

I will always have my trusty XP computer for a backup, but I've already taken it off line.



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#878828 - 04/06/13 04:06 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks for the link Draclvr but quite frankly I didn't much understand what he was talking about with all the acronyms and such. I guess I don't understand what security issue there is. What could possibly happen? Sorry for being a dolt but didn't they all say the same things for Win98SE when NT came out then when each of the next new OS's were released? What would happen if I still used XP past the support date next April. If the issue is as serious as you say then I may as well not do any fun things like upgrade this XP and wait for hopefully a better OS (Win 9 or Win Whine) is released and invest that money in a great Ecollege or Cyberpower system then.


Edited by GreyFuss (04/06/13 04:08 PM)
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#878853 - 04/06/13 04:57 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Draclvr]
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I didn't know this about taking XP offline. I have XP computers still hanging around here: one older desktop, a laptop, and a netbook. My main computers are Windows 7.

The desktop is probably too obsolete for upgrading, but I wonder if I should put another OS on the laptop and netbook. I did do a duel boot once on the netbook with Linux. But trying to upgrade these might not be worth the effort.

I guess I should be glad that my computers survive so long, but it's not easy to let them go! sad
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#878857 - 04/06/13 05:10 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
I keep finding more and more reasons to build my own computers...

I must say I've had much better luck with replacing components in HP computers. I was even able to find a perfect replacement for a PSU in an old HP Windows ME computer.


I've had the same experience with HP vs. Dell, but it could have just been me. I replaced a power supply in an HP a few years back with no problem. Did my research. All went well.

But then I tried the same thing with a Dell, being just as careful to find the specs recommended. Messed up anyway. The back outlet didn't fit properly. After all the uninstalling and installing, that poor computer never did function the way it should. But maybe the issue was with another component I replaced along the way. I upgraded memory and graphics card too, replaced a clock battery. Tweaked some other things. Maybe I just Frankensteined the thing too much!

I suppose there's a lesson here somewhere ... something about letting the past just die? headscratch


Edited by lanlynk (04/06/13 05:12 PM)
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#878864 - 04/06/13 05:41 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Originally Posted By: GreyFuss
What could possibly happen?

You could have your identity stolen by being infected with spyware while browsing the Internet. This is more serious than just catching a nuisance virus because the repercussions can follow you around for the rest of your life.

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What would happen if I still used XP past the support date next April.

Depends on your browsing habits and whether you disabled scripting in your browser. Disabling javascript is not enough -- you'd need something like NoScript to block other types of scripting. Your antivirus may catch some things, but it won't catch infections that change their signature with each infection (like polymorphic viruses). Cutting off scripting disables the main avenue of infection by malware that attacks through the web browser.

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If the issue is as serious as you say then I may as well not do any fun things like upgrade this XP.

You can still play games offline. Or you could add a second hard drive to your computer and set up a dual boot of XP with Windows 7.

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and wait for hopefully a better OS (Win 9 or Win Whine) is released and invest that money in a great Ecollege or Cyberpower system then.

Well, judging by Win8, you're probably better with Win7 than hoping Win9 will be better.

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#878871 - 04/06/13 06:01 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Get a computer from Cyberpower and put an end to all this proprietory stuff.

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#878872 - 04/06/13 06:12 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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I can't say it any better than Jenny did. I didn't understand all the acronyms either, but the bottom line is that XP is long past being a secure operating system. It's going to be 13 years old and they are no longer going to be patching security holes and bugs in the operating system leaving you wide open to any number of vulnerabilities. It's not a chance I care to take with my information. Like I said, I've already taken my XP computer off line just to be safe. Just take yours off line and use it for gaming! That's what I do. Lanlynk, I also have a hard time letting my old XP go, but I have no problem moving forward with new technology. I work on computers for a lot of people, so I need to keep up with all the new stuff. I've already been able to help 3 people with their new Windows 8 laptops... they love it.

GreyFuss, why don't you take a look at what Windows 8 is all about and see what you think... And rest assured, Microsoft is not going back to the old way of doing things with any future operating systems. I use it on my 4 year old computer with a mouse and keyboard.

Meet Windows 8

EDIT: Just saw your post, Geo. Couldn't agree more! That's why I build my own.
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#878873 - 04/06/13 06:21 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
It's going to be 13 years old and they are no longer going to be patching security holes and bugs in the operating system

It's not just that -- it's that they can't patch it properly because the underpinnings for doing so aren't there.

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