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#879246 - 04/07/13 08:04 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: Draclvr]
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Draclvr, I went to the Microsoft site and looked at a few screenshots of the Mail desktop client in Win 8. The format is similar to Outlook.com, right? Very different than what it looks like in Win 7. Unless I was just looking at the touch version. What is that called, Metro?

RE: Win 8 - Also, that's a neat feature you mentioned about screenshots being saved automatically in a folder. So many times in the past when I've taken an in-game screenshot using the PrtSc key, I then had to alt-tab out and paste it somewhere ... all so that I could take another shot. Finally went to Fraps!
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#879249 - 04/07/13 08:17 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: monbron]
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Well, I guess it sort of does look like Outlook.com. But the app is still pretty weak as a stand-alone email app. It's not really an email client as you can only sync with web-based email... POP and IMAP are not supported.

It's a built-in app with Windows 8 and it doesn't matter whether you are using touch or keyboard and mouse for the Modern UI interface. WHICH has to be the stupidest name for it I've ever heard. They can't use Metro any more because of some company in Europe with already has the name. It might even be a Microsoft partner, I can't remember for sure.

Windows 7 does not have any email clients included if you install it from a disk. You have to either download one or use web-based email. Now if you purchased an OEM computer, they usually come pre-loaded with Microsoft Live Essentials which includes Live Mail.

Yup, no more copying and pasting a screenshot into Paint before you can do anything. It's a simple file with one keystroke - well sort of two keystrokes.
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#879250 - 04/07/13 08:45 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: lanlynk]
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Originally Posted By: lanlynk
When I switched from Live Mail to Outlook.com (which is basically an upgrade), all my contacts automatically appeared in the new format, along with mail and calendar. Did you use the same Live acct or sign up for a new one?


Hi, lanlynk,

I haven't switched. I'm not letting go of my email client Live Mail. I loved OE and this is as close as I can get to OE.

I've gotta say, though, I don't understand why they separated "Storage folders" from the Inbox area in WLM and created additional Draft, Sent and Deleted Item folders.

To get Live Mail, I created a Live Essentials account but I don't sign in. I just use the email program.

To get the Outlook.com web based email, purely as a backup, I just gave them my Gmail account as a, er, reference. grin

Drac, thanks for letting me know where to add contacts!

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#879278 - 04/08/13 12:14 AM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: monbron]
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Outlook.com is not an upgrade from Live Mail. Live Mail is an email client on your computer which you can set up with POP email accounts. It is a part of Windows Live Essentials, although I think they now just call it Windows Essentials. Outlook.com is an upgrade for the old Hotmail web-based email.

I did the same thing when I set up my Outlook.com account - used my Gmail as a, er, reference! grin
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#879495 - 04/08/13 04:21 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
Outlook.com is not an upgrade from Live Mail. Live Mail is an email client on your computer which you can set up with POP email accounts. It is a part of Windows Live Essentials, although I think they now just call it Windows Essentials. Outlook.com is an upgrade for the old Hotmail web-based email.


Yes, the terms are a little confusing. There was a webmail service called Windows Live Mail, which is what I had been using. I logged on to it when I just wanted to check webmail in my browser. It was the free version, or the alternate newer name, for the Hotmail web service. (user@live.com rather than user@hotmail.com) Then there is the desktop client also called Windows Live Mail that is part of Windows Essentials--still available. It can be used with any mail service.

The web service Windows Live Mail (and Hotmail) is what was upgraded to Outlook.com, not the desktop client.

PS: The web service Windows Live Mail was also called Windows Live Hotmail. ... and then there's MSN Mail, which is the same thing!


Edited by lanlynk (04/08/13 04:32 PM)
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#879517 - 04/08/13 05:26 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: monbron]
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Ah, I see what you're talking about... not the Windows Live Mail email client included in Windows Live Essentials, but the Windows Live account. Definitely confusing!

I didn't know MSN Mail and Hotmail were the same.. I just never used them, I guess.
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#879562 - 04/08/13 09:53 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: monbron]
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MSN and Hotmail go together but were quite different. I like MSN much better but mine has not been working since last June and I just haven't felt up to dealing with them on the phone to find out why.

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#879574 - 04/08/13 10:59 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: monbron]
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I think they've all gone to Outlook.com. I just tried to go to MSN mail and was taken to Outlook.com.
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#879599 - 04/09/13 01:39 AM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: oldbroad]
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I never used MSN or Hotmail, just the Windows Live service. I know they're all related somehow, but not sure of the differences or which came first! Seems like these companies are always trying out new directions and services. Google has done the same thing. Services offered, tweaked, and then replaced.

I guess it all depends on how well ideas are received by the public and which direction trends go. duh
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#879600 - 04/09/13 01:43 AM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: monbron]
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Well, I have to agree with you, lanlynk, I wish those Google labels would get lost. They're not nearly as sensible as folders. IMO, anyway.


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#879609 - 04/09/13 02:48 AM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: traveler]
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Exactly, traveler! I want folders, not floating messages with labels. If I need to further categorize emails, I can use "tags." That's what my current email client offers. I can create my own tags, which are basically little icon labels of infinite colors. I can place a tag on family emails, for instance; then use the search field for that tag and voila! a sorted list appears with all my family messages ready to browse--temporarily ... while they still nest securely in their folders where they belong! lol


Edited by lanlynk (04/09/13 02:58 AM)
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#879783 - 04/09/13 09:24 PM Re: Win 8 and Microsoft [Re: monbron]
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Draclvr - MSN Mail was something that had to be paid for. I can go to my MSN Mail - it's just not loading them right anymore though. It doesn't kick me to Outlook.

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