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#879154 - 04/07/13 03:55 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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I believe you have hit the proverbial nail on the head, Lanlynk. Folks are definitely sneering at it now, but will it stay that way is the question. If they continue on the current "rumored" path, for me it will be a fail. I understand WHY they are going this way as they anticipate the death of the desktop as we know it. It's all about marketing, money and profit - you know, capitalism! As long as they keep the desktop and the ability to run legacy programs, I really like Windows 8 for all the things under the hood. As soon as they completely move away from the desktop with mouse and keyboard controls, that's when I'm outa' here.
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#879162 - 04/07/13 04:18 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
As soon as they completely move away from the desktop with mouse and keyboard controls, that's when I'm outa' here.


Oh! I just got this crazy visual: me playing an RPG on a touch screen. Instead of madly clicking my mouse button to fight a bandit ... I'm whacking him savagely with my index finger! That seems a bit too close to reality, doesn't it? eek
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#879279 - 04/08/13 12:31 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: lanlynk]
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Unless tablets and the like get as powerful as a desktop can be, desktops will be around. There are too many programs that can't run on tablets and the like.
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#879280 - 04/08/13 12:41 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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From your mouth to Microsoft's ear, Homer... I agree that the predicted demise of the desktop is highly overrated, but I've learned to never assume anything.
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#879293 - 04/08/13 04:24 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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I like to lean back and relax in my chair when I am at my computer. I don't want to have to be hunched over my desk so I can touch a screen.

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#879368 - 04/08/13 09:51 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Yup, me too. Like right now, I'm in my comfy chair with a cup of coffee in one hand enjoying reading my morning news and browsing. Pinching and swiping and tapping is NOT what I want to do right now!
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#879448 - 04/08/13 12:36 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
From your mouth to Microsoft's ear, Homer... I agree that the predicted demise of the desktop is highly overrated, but I've learned to never assume anything.


Yep, assume only makes an...

MS might like to think the desktop will eventually go by the wayside, but unless they gain ownership of those programs that need a powerful desktop, or someone develops a tablet, or the like, as powerful as a desktop, they are assuming and making an...
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#879458 - 04/08/13 01:15 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Yup, I know that one about assume!
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#879509 - 04/08/13 05:06 PM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
The answer to that question, kjos, is "maybe." Run the Windows 7 Upgrade advisor to be sure your computer has enough power and there are drivers for all your components. If it's an older computer, it may not work well.

Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor



Thank you for this link. I used it last night to check my old XP laptop. Results showed that I could upgrade to Win 7, but it would have to be a "Custom" install--meaning that I'd have to install the 32 bit version and reinstall all my other programs. Not to mention spending, what?, about $100 for the Win 7 upgrade. Decided not to go there.

BUT, I did install a full version of the newest Ubuntu Linux OS. The laptop is running great; everything looks really good. I can use this extra laptop mainly for internet use backup. Might be fun to check out what games are available for Linux too. I've worked with Linux a little, but never looked into gaming.

Well, this thread has gone all over the place, hasn't it?
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#879587 - 04/09/13 12:40 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: lanlynk]
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Your post, lanlynk, gave me another thought. If MS isn't careful they could very easily drive users to start using other OS on their computers.
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#879590 - 04/09/13 12:51 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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I've played around with Ubuntu Linx too - unfortunately gaming is extremely limited. And every time I needed to do something I had to enter tons of code - I just want my OS to work for me. And as long as you have it on a single hard drive in a stand-alone computer, you won't have to enter "Grub Loader He]]" like I did. The grub load took over everything and I lost my first Windows 7 installation. Even the people at the Linux forums where I went for help admitted the grub loader had also caused them tons of problems in dual boot situations.
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#879592 - 04/09/13 01:08 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Homer6]
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Originally Posted By: Homer6
Your post, lanlynk, gave me another thought. If MS isn't careful they could very easily drive users to start using other OS on their computers.


Proprietary software can be so expensive, whether Microsoft, Apple, or any other. It makes for tough decisions about upgrading computers. I think it's so crazy that I can buy computer components for less money than the programs that run on the devices!

In some cases, I HAVE gone to open source freeware. Since I've retired, I have had no need for MS Office, for instance. I use LibreOffice instead. Saves me hundreds of dollars. When an upgrade is needed, I just download it. It works for my needs. Zimbra is another example of open source. It's an email client. Why should I pay $100 for Outlook if I don't need it now?

Linux is a good OS. It's more intuitive now days. And the compatible software database for it is growing. Anyway, its a good alternative for someone who doesn't specifically need Windows to run games or programs. Good for graphics, music, email, or internet.

MS does make it difficult to leave them, though, because of PC gaming and business preferences. Just look at how hard Apple and others have worked to grab a piece of the pie!
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#879593 - 04/09/13 01:14 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: Draclvr]
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Oh, goodness, Draclvr! Was there a specific problem? I haven't had to do much command work at all. Last night, I was able to access my Windows Network with the new Linux machine. The network printer install went smoothly, too. I decided not to do a dual boot. Just installed over the old XP.

I know what you mean, though, when a tech problem happens. It can really destroy a good mood! Sometimes it's difficult to track issues down. Well, just look at all the people here on the forum posting about game issues!

Certainly I agree about the lack of gaming choices for Linux. Windows has a captive audience there. Unless someone does console gaming, PCs are the only answer. Even Macs take back row in that!
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#879594 - 04/09/13 01:15 AM Re: Ypur Expert Opinion ... Power Supply Upgrade [Re: GreyFuss]
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Well said, Lanlynk.
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