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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #890032
05/26/13 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mad
I switch the machine on and the "Motherboard Logo" screen appears.
The drive light is red for a few seconds and then goes off. But the Logo screen stays for at least five minutes.

Since this happens before the hard drive even starts booting Windows, the problem isn't likely to be caused by hard drive corruption. What's likely happening during this first 5 minute delay is that the BIOS is trying to detect or initialize some piece of hardware. It may detect it, but be waiting for some feedback that it isn't getting.

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When the boot up towards the Welcome Screen starts, the screen goes blank, the drive light flickers and then goes red for a short period and then goes off again.
And nothing else happens for another 5 minutes.

NT-based versions of Windows detect hardware separately from the BIOS. So Windows is probably having the same problem with detection and/or initialization that the BIOS did earlier.

What's usually suggested in diagnosing this type of problem is to physically remove any non-essential hardware and see if the problem goes away. If it does, you start adding things back one by one until the problem reappears.

You could also check Device Manager for problems, though it might not indicate problems if initialization was eventually successful.

It's still worth testing the hard drive with the HDTune utility Inland suggested.

Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #890049
05/26/13 11:21 AM
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Do I just download that HD Tune (say to Desktop) and then run it ??


Yes, that's all you need to do - It's a great little tool, I use it all the time.

Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #890106
05/26/13 06:10 PM
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Mad,

Jenny100 made an excellent observation and almost certainly has indicated the root of your problem.

As you don't sound like a techi smile and certainly will not want to poke around in the BIOS settings or check hardware (fans, batteries, memory sticks, etc.), you had better wait for your son-in-law to troubleshoot your computer.

Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Robert Gault] #890128
05/26/13 10:40 PM
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OK. I downloaded and ran HD Tune and got a full set of results - which I copied to Clipboard.
[So I can quote from those if you need me to.]
But the main thing (I think ??) is that the error Scan showed "No Damaged Blocks".

Anyway, I'll pass all this info on to my Son in Law as soon as he is available as I'm sure he'll find it helpful.

And thank you all again very much indeed !! praise


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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #890217
05/27/13 10:55 AM
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If sectors have been relocated, there will be no errors to report - The Info tab is the one you want to review.

You can view a list of error conditions below, the more serious errors are highlighted.

Known ATA S.M.A.R.T. attributes

Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: InlandAZ] #890230
05/27/13 11:55 AM
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Thanks, InlandAZ smile

I'll be passing ALL the info and suggestions you kind folks have provided on to my Son in Law as soon as I see him.

And I'll let you know if the problem gets resolved yes


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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #890269
05/27/13 01:38 PM
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Let us know Mad, I'm curious. You don't by any chance have an external hard drive attached to the PC do you? If so, you might disconnect it and see if you boot up normally.

Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: InlandAZ] #890282
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Yes, I do, normally, but as soon as this problem started I took it off smile


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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #891261
05/31/13 06:21 PM
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Hi.

My Son in Law was able to pay a flying visit last night and said there is corruption in the Bios.

And he's sourced an identical (replacement) Motherboard at a very low cost to try.

If that doesn't work he says he will build me another XP machine - from stuff he has in already plus the really good bits of my existing machine.

I have regularly backed up important stuff to an external drive as well so I'm confident all will turn out OK.

grin grin grin


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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #891284
05/31/13 08:34 PM
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Great... you're lucky to have that son in law :-)


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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #891395
06/01/13 10:33 AM
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Can I borrow him?!


Gardens put to bed for the winter. Time for some gaming!
Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Draclvr] #891461
06/01/13 03:03 PM
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What ?? Borrow him ??

NO !! He's Mine, all MINE !!

rotfl rotfl rotfl

Yes. I am really lucky he lives near enough (and has the knowledge) to help.

My other Son in Law is also a techie whizz but his work required him to move several hundered miles away a few years ago, so it's been mainly help via email from him since then.

However, I appreciate ALL help. And I get a lot here at Gameboomers too - for which I'm very grateful praise


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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #891533
06/01/13 08:03 PM
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LOL...Drac... I'd take you in a heartbeat :-)


Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Mad] #891547
06/01/13 09:39 PM
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Good one, Winfrey!


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Re: Boot Up Taking Over 10 minutes [Re: Draclvr] #891551
06/01/13 10:53 PM
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Pity I can't lay claim to YOU as well, Draclvr, considering how much you also have helped me laugh laugh laugh


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