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#893191 - 06/08/13 11:21 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks, Creeping Doom. Had a minor brain drain there - that is indeed what HDMI means. Don't overthink this, Greyfuss... a really good monitor with all the features you want is going to be fine for you.
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#893195 - 06/09/13 12:11 AM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks Creeping-Doom for your input...

Draclvr, you know you are right... smirk

OK...let me throw this one at y`all and see what you think...Its quite new I think and there isn't much in the way of reviews or ratings at least I couldn't find much...Is it overboard? 1.07 Billion colors, AH-IPS, LED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260135

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#893197 - 06/09/13 12:40 AM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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That is one fine monitor! But I didn't see anything about VESA Mounting Compliance. Will it go on the wall like you wanted?

Wow, all this info! Coming to GameBoomers makes me smart. idea
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#893198 - 06/09/13 12:49 AM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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Gasp... I'm having a hard time getting past the price! Yes, it's VESA compatible - it's down toward the bottom in the Details tab.

This one has no VGA option, so connecting your old computers to this monitor either directly or through a KVM switch would be difficult.

You'll be needing a pretty beefy video card to get the most out of this monitor.
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#893245 - 06/09/13 09:31 AM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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Thanks for the input and opinion on this Dell. I was a bit concerned about this being so new that it didn't have much in the way of user reviews. It does look to have way over the specs of any other monitor and because of that it probably delivers one of the most vibrant colors. What I am most worried about it I can't find the word "gaming" in any article about this computer. The view reviews I read all said it was beautiful and the best monitor they ever bought but the reviewers said they were graphic artists or photographers. One bad review I read stated it was beautiful on still pictures but in gaming it had terrible ghosting on movement and he returned it. Think I will stay away from this as more reviews have to com into play. Plus Neweggs ad is wrong as it does not have built in speakers. It takes the Dell SoundBar for speakers. I do have 2 of those but.....

What do you think of this one released Sept 2012? Don't faint on the price Draclvr but look at all the connection choices including Dual Link DVI-D

http://www.reviewgist.com/specs/asus-pb278q
http://www.reviewgist.com/best-monitors

Am I going overboard?
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#893248 - 06/09/13 09:57 AM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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... Whew, sorry. Still picking myself up off the floor!

If you go for one of these very large - this one is 27 inches - high resolution monitors, your old computers may not have enough video card to work on them. As I said above, it's going to take a pretty beefy card to work on them. Hopefully Jenny or Inland will know more about this, but you might want to check into what video card/chips you have in the old computers if you still plan on using them with this monitor.

Another search you might try is "best monitors for gaming" keeping in mind that they are talking about shooters and RPGs. They do talk about some of the things you should look for in a gaming monitor. This article is from a year ago in PC Magazine.

The 8 Best Gaming Monitors

Here is another one for May 2013.

Best and Top Rated Monitors for PC Gaming

I agree with some of the other thoughts that you should go to a brick and mortar store and actually look at monitors. You won't get the best representation of colors etc. because of the lighting in these stores, but you can at least get a feeling for the differences.
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#893258 - 06/09/13 10:10 AM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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I will check out Best Buy but there aren't that many stores left and even then they don't seem to carry the models I am looking for.

You are probably right and I need to simplify my thinking and get my head out of the clouds.

One thing though is I have decided not to connect the Win98 to a new monitor as the games that I would use that for don't look good on an LCD so I would use my CRT monitor with that. So its just down to connecting one, maybe 2 XP computers and be able to switch the inputs. I too love the Logitech Unifying Mice and Keyboards. They are great except I hope they would make them so you could program them to more than one computer.

Head out of the clouds...check this out...the only problem is that I am not sure if this is a TN (Amazon says) or a TFT Active Matrix which it says in the review link. .

http://www.reviewgist.com/specs/asus-vg248qe
http://www.reviewgist.com/best-monitors

Isnt there a way to do a side by side comparison at Newegg or Amazon or somewhere between this model Asus and the one Draclvr linked to above? Asus VE248H ? I can't figure it out.



Edited by GreyFuss (06/09/13 11:42 AM)
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#893284 - 06/09/13 11:59 AM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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Originally Posted By: GreyFuss
One bad review I read stated it was beautiful on still pictures but in gaming it had terrible ghosting on movement and he returned it.

Keep in mind he was probably playing FPS-type games. If you're playing adventures, you may not see a problem. You'd have to use an adapter for the computer with the VGA (D-Sub) connection though.

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What do you think of this one released Sept 2012? Don't faint on the price Draclvr but look at all the connection choices including Dual Link DVI-D

http://www.reviewgist.com/specs/asus-pb278q
http://www.reviewgist.com/best-monitors

Well, it's got the VGA connection, so you wouldn't need an adapter with it.

Newegg seems to have this model with 98 user reviews -- so you might want to look through their reviews even if you don't buy it there.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294

27" is nice. Remember you'll need a more powerful video card to drive the higher resolution than you would with the 24".

The closest I know to a side-by-side comparison is to open two Newegg webpages, one for
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236102
and one for
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294
and use the "Details" tab on both of them.

The one you're looking at is obviously a better quality monitor. Better viewing angles, better overall brightness, larger monitor, etc. Other specs are better too. If it's what you want, go for it.

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#893303 - 06/09/13 01:41 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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Greyfuss, once you get Windows 7 you will be able to "snap" two windows open side by side by simply dragging them to the edges.

That Asus VE248H is actually on my "wish list" should my dear old ViewSonic ever croak. It's old, but it's fine for me. It gets very good reviews. You can always download the user manual if you want to learn more about how it works.
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#893317 - 06/09/13 02:53 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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What ever you decide on, if it's going to be a large monitor - make sure that video card is up to snuff (as has been stated before). Find one with the highest memory bandwidth and a minimum of 2GB of VRAM.

Something along the lines of GeForce GTX 670/680 would do well. If you plan to run multiple monitors, side by side, look at something like a GTX 690/780 w/4GB VRAM.

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#893323 - 06/09/13 03:16 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: InlandAZ]
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The ram on a video card isn't quite as important , as the monitor's resolution and refresh rate . A card with 2gb or ram would be fine on a monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution . In actuality , even a card with 1.5gb or ram would be ok on a 1920x1080 monitor . Where higher ram on a video card really comes in to play , is on multiple monitor setups , or resolutions higher than 1920x1080 . Also , more graphic intensive games , such as rpg & fps games , are areas where 2gb or more would be beneficial . Do not limit to an Nvidia video card , as AMD also have some nice choices , & the performance difference between the two is mostly minimal at best.

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#893327 - 06/09/13 03:26 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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Large monitors do benefit from memory bandwidth, moving those textures across the bus requires a fairly wide lane. 2GB versus 1 GB is a personal thing, and you're right, for most Adventure Games 1 GB is sufficient. I have however played several games lately that definitely would chugged without the additional VRAM.

All of the higher end cards are fairly expensive though, we'll see what GreyFuss decides on.

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#893338 - 06/09/13 04:32 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: InlandAZ]
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I play some fairly graphic intensive games myself . Right now , my most graphic intensive games are Witcher 2 , Crysis 3 , & Metro : Last Light . A shame that the top cards for both AMD & Nvidia are insanely expensive ( both the Nvivia Titan & AMD HD 7990 are $1000 each or more) . Having 2gb of ram on a video card would be pretty much future proof for adventures . That is , until the developers stop writing games based on dx9 . I am considering a card upgrade , from my gtx 590 classified to either gtx 690 sli or an hd 7970 crossfire setup . Interested to see what happens , GreyFuss !!

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#893339 - 06/09/13 04:47 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: GreyFuss]
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I'm sure Greyfuss' new graphics card will be adequate for a large monitor, especially since he's backed off the 27" ones. What I'm wondering is if his graphics processors on the XP computer/s he wants to connect will be up to snuff. That's why I mentioned finding out what the graphics card was. Wisely, he has decided to use the old CRT monitor with his 98 computer.

My old GTX 260 could run my 22" ViewSonic monitor with a 1680 x 1050 resolution, but the nVidia nForce 610i IGP on my XP can also run it. I'm sure any new monitor will have way more pixels to push than this 4 year old monitor though.

My Superclocked 3 GB GTX 660Ti is rocking Witcher 2 and Metro Last Light at maximum settings without breaking a sweat. Loving it... Nvidia is giving away a code for Metro Last Light with the higher end cards. AMD might be too - didn't check into them. Almost pulled the trigger on a GTX 670, but Newegg put this EVGA 660Ti on sale for $10 off and EVGA had a $20 rebate, so had to go for this one.

EDIT: Forgot. Yes, you can use the Unifying receivers on more than one computer. You just have to set them up on each computer. I have to switch my little receiver between my 2 computers to use my keyboard. But you really should look into getting a KVM switch if you're thinking about connecting more than one computer to this monitor. You can use the same keyboard, monitor and mouse on multiple computers by simply tapping a key or pressing a button. I have separate mice for mine and just switch press a button on my monitor to switch from DVI to VGA.
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#893359 - 06/09/13 06:03 PM Re: Part 2: Computer Monitors??? [Re: Draclvr]
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
I'm sure Greyfuss' new graphics card will be adequate for a large monitor, especially since he's backed off the 27" ones. What I'm wondering is if his graphics processors on the XP computer/s he wants to connect will be up to snuff. That's why I mentioned finding out what the graphics card was. Wisely, he has decided to use the old CRT monitor with his 98 computer.



That's why I run Virtual PC and VMware - either will play the classics, as well as many of the newer games. About the only thing that VPC won't run are those games that require 3D Acceleration, and the latest versions of VMware provide that.

Neither product is perfect, but they generally get the job done quite nicely.

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