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#896483 - 06/23/13 12:17 PM Saved Games in DOSBox
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Hi.
If a game has had the DOSBox treatment so as to run on a modern machine, can anyone say where its saved games are likely to be stored think

I'm playing Blade Runner and the original saves location would have been c:\westwood\blade\save.

However, I'm running the game on D Drive of my Win7 machine and can't find anything that resembles a save game file anywhere on the drive.
[Or on C Drive either. I've looked there as well woozy]

Cheers.

Mad smile
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#896486 - 06/23/13 12:25 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Doesnt Dosbox treat whatever drive/directory you mounted as, effectively, your c: drive? Start your search there. It's a long time since I used DB so it's a vague remembrance I'm afraid.

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#896487 - 06/23/13 12:28 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: mj2c]
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Thanks, mj2c smile

But as I said in my post, I've already searched my C Drive and can't see anything resembling a saved game for Blade Runner rolleyes
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#896489 - 06/23/13 12:32 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Do you mean you've physically searched or used the Windows built in search? The Windows search doesn't search all paths (you probably know this:-)).

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#896493 - 06/23/13 12:42 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: mj2c]
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Done both !! laugh
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#896496 - 06/23/13 12:49 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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I wasn't much use then:-)

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#896499 - 06/23/13 01:00 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: mj2c]
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Don't say that !! Even if you don't have the solution you had the good heart to reply, thank you thumbsup

Anyway, I contacted the man who did the DOSBoxing and he has now actually sent me the solution. [But it does involves stuff with which I wouldn't meddle scared]

So I'll just happily carry on playing this wonderful old game happydance
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#897380 - 06/27/13 06:33 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Blade Runner is a Windows game. Did this person hack together a DOS interpreter? The non-hacked game creates a subfolder called "SAVE" and the save files themselves are named "*.SAV". You said that you installed it on your D: drive, so this will not apply, but with UAC on, a legacy game installed in a system folder like "Program Files" will redirect file writes to the Virtual Store, if it is an allowed file type.

Anyway, I made an installer for Blade Runner. It works with either the 4CD or DVD versions. It includes a compatibility patch I made to allow it to run on Win7 and sets it up for disc-less play. Note that there is another installer out there does not have a compatibility patch and is of questionable legality as it includes the game's main data file. My installer properly concatenates the resources from the disc(s), so it includes no copyrighted game data.

Blade Runner Setup


Edited by Collector (06/27/13 06:34 PM)

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#897449 - 06/28/13 12:28 AM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Collector]
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Hi Collector smile

I have used some of your installers. However, I didn't know you had made one for Blade Runner.

Anyway, thanks for that info - even though I'm afraid I don't understand all of it.
My techie capabilities are very limited !! wink

Cheers.

Mad wave
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#897456 - 06/28/13 02:39 AM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Mad

Saved games in DosBox are pretty much like any other game. The problem is there is not "set" place. Presently I am using the DosBox frontend program (Defend Reloaded)

If you install a dosbox game using Defend all installations go into the same location. Such as C:Documents and Settings/user name/Defen reloaded/Virtual Hardrive/Sierra/Lost

Or in your case C:Documents and Settings/user name/Defen reloaded/Virtual harddrive//westwood\blade\save.

If you are using Dos Box without a front end the saves would go wherever you installed the game.

Games made prior to Win XP placed their saves in the game install folder. They were moved to my documents once XP was released because XP and Win 7 will not allow programs to write to files inside the Program Files folder where most programs are installed. Because of that saves had to go elsewhere.

If you installed to Program Files x86/westwood\blade\save. You won't have any saves. Because The save folder does not appear in the install file until you make a save. Program Files and program files x86 will not allow the program to make that save folder or put saves in it. So you won't have any saves. You must install those games elsewhere.

What you would need to do is reinstall the game to c:\westwood\blade\ by passing program files. The save folder will be added to c:\westwood\blade\save. when you make your first save.

When I had Gabtiel Knight and Lost in Time installed with dosbox only I kept it simple installing to C:Sierra/Lost and C:/Sierra/GKCD the saves went into the install file.

To find where your current game is installed.
Right click on the desktop icon of your game. Select Properties and look at the box that popped up. In the line labeled TARGET it will tell you where the game is installed. Look there for your saves.

Another problem, for old dos games is this. Lost In Time the saves are not called saves. They are stored in CAT.INF files You cannot see the individule save files. Lost has the following for saves
CAT.INF
CAT2.inf
CAT3.INF
CAT4.INF

I just made a new save and it changed the file modification date listed for the CAT.inf file but it does not show any details.

You will run into this for an awful lot of old games.

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#897549 - 06/28/13 01:18 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: oldmariner]
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Thanks for all that info, oldmariner smile

I have to say that I always go for games that have already been "DOSBoxed" as my efforts to use the programme myself have proved futile lol
[And all the ones I have purchased so far have worked flawlessly.]

The only reason for wanting to find the saved games in THIS instance was that I was considering leaving the game permanently installed on my Win7 machine - just deleting only the saved games after I'd played the game.
But it's no problem to uninstall/reinstall - which is what I will do.

Cheers.

Mad thanks
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#897609 - 06/28/13 06:30 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Mad,

You said "Dosboxed" Do you mean you are using something like a game from GOG? If so there is a different answer to where your saves are.

If that is the case they could be anywhere. I have the Longest Journey GOG version installed.

The game is installed in C:\program filesx86\GOG\The Longest Journey

The game saves are located in Documents and settings/ user name/ application data/The Longest Journey

Now then I have saves from GOG versions of Gabriel Knight 1 and Broken Sword 2 They are both in the same place. A real treasure hunt.

Documents and setting/user name/local settings/Virtual store/GOG.com/Broken Sword

For Gab it is the same except switch broken sword for Gabriel Knight.


It has been my experience that GOG saves will be placed somewhere in Documents and Settings but not always in the same place as illustrated by the convoluted nonsense with these games. Sometimes they go under application data before local settings. sometimes instead of Application Data they use App data. There is no consistancy to this irrational haphazard treasure hunt.


For Dot Emu and the new one shiny loot more than likely it is the same story

That is exactly why when I use Dosbox I direct the thing to C:\Gabrielknight
The game goes there and the saves follow. I know it is not MS correct but tell somebody who cares.



Edited by oldmariner (06/28/13 06:35 PM)

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#897642 - 06/28/13 10:27 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Mad probably got Blade Runner from the eBay guy who fixes old games so they run in modern OS.
www.ebay.com/itm/230886478373

I don't know if he uses DOSBox or something else.
The pictures of the game box at Mobygames say Blade Runner is for Windows 95 and NT, so I'm thinking he uses something other than DOSBox.

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#897646 - 06/28/13 11:05 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Jenny100]
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Yes. That's where I got it, Jenny100 smile

And he DOES use DOSBox.

And this is the only game (so far) where the save games have not been easily and separately accessible.

As I have said, it's not a big deal. I'm very happy with the game. It runs perfectly happydance

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#897688 - 06/29/13 09:29 AM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Is the problem with the way the game saves? I once played an old game that saved by putting entries in your registry -- not in any save file but inside files that were part of Windows. I didn't care for that save system at all.

I think it was Neverhood
http://www.chiptape.com/chiptape/misc/neverhood.htm

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#897850 - 06/29/13 05:31 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Originally Posted By: Mad
Hi Collector smile

I have used some of your installers. However, I didn't know you had made one for Blade Runner.

Anyway, thanks for that info - even though I'm afraid I don't understand all of it.
My techie capabilities are very limited !! wink

Cheers.

Mad wave

No need to understand it. No need to mess with DOSBox. Just place your CD or DVD in your drive and run the installer. Sit back, wait for the installer to finish and then enjoy the game. The saves will be found in the "SAVE" folder inside of the game. Simple.

Note that it does require the original media, but the seller should have included the original media. If not you should demand your money back, as he would be distributing copyrighted material.

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#897929 - 06/29/13 11:23 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Collector]
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Hi Jenny100 smile
Saving and loading during the game is normal but, as with most computer related stuff, I don't know the technicalities of how they "work" wink

And Collector ....
Yes. I know how to use your installers because I've used them before. I just wasn't aware you had created one for Blade Runner.
And yes again. The seller does include an original game disk yes

Cheers.

Mad wave
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#898110 - 06/30/13 09:52 PM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Originally Posted By: Mad
Saving and loading during the game is normal but, as with most computer related stuff, I don't know the technicalities of how they "work"

What I meant was that if the game uses some weird system to create a save, like Neverhood did, you'd never find any save files because there aren't any.

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#898148 - 07/01/13 01:12 AM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Jenny100]
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Hi Jenny100. Please see your PM. Cheers. Mad smile
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#898189 - 07/01/13 08:51 AM Re: Saved Games in DOSBox [Re: Mad]
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Thanks, Mad. Very interesting.

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