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#896071 - 06/21/13 12:57 PM Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD
RichAlexis Offline
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Hi all,

I'm new to this forum. I'm into classic adventure games.

I just got the multilingual DVD from Amazon of the "Pompeii: The Legend of Vesuvius" adventure game from 2000, also known as "Timescape: Journey to Pompeii".

I'm playing this Windows 95/98 compatible game on a Windows XP Home Edition system. I had hardly any installation problems, though you do get that familiar old Cryo/Dreamcatcer "no disk space left" message when only, in this case, 262 MB are required! Old school limited disk space, I guess.

In the past, I used to install it on a 1 GB USB flash drive to avoid this, but this time straight installation to the C-drive turned out fine.

So, the game works fine, even without a switch to Windows 98/Windows ME compatibility mode for the executable, no choppy audio, good 3D panning, fluent cutscenes, accessible menu options.

But there's one major glitch: I can't save the game! This is frustrating when you can get killed in this game, and you have to start all over again.

This is what I get: just an endlessly blinking cursor in the lower lefthand corner, not resolving into anything.



User "char" in this old review on Amazon appears to have had the same problem, but I've been looking all over the place for a solution.

Amazon.com review

Does someone recognize this, and know what can be done? Emulation does not appear to work. Patch?

Thanks!

Rich


Edited by RichAlexis (06/21/13 01:05 PM)

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#896074 - 06/21/13 01:00 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: RichAlexis]
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Hi RichAlexis and welcome to GameBoomers. I have moved your post over to our Glitches forum where the techies should be able to give you some advice. smile

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#896076 - 06/21/13 01:05 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: Marian]
RichAlexis Offline
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Oh thanks, still finding my way around!

Rich

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#896109 - 06/21/13 03:34 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: RichAlexis]
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If you installed to the default location, then it went in C:\Program Files and Windows may be preventing changes (like making saves). Try installing the game to your My Documents folder.

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#896124 - 06/21/13 04:24 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: Jenny100]
RichAlexis Offline
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Thanks, Jenny.

I see what you mean, but I doubted this would be the solution, as I've never had any problems writing to Program Files. I tried it anyway.

I've found what it's about: the bar at the bottom of the save screen is not a sliding bar filling up during the saving action, as I'd thought, but a form where you're supposed to enter a filename!

Gee, I feel like an idiot, but I hadn't expected this 'manual labour' after years of automatic saving!

I have to work out, though, if I have to keep track of sequential file numbers, because otherwise I feel I could overwrite existing saves.

Rich


Edited by RichAlexis (06/21/13 04:27 PM)

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#896136 - 06/21/13 05:05 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: RichAlexis]
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Hi, Rich. wave

I've recently spent some time installing a few of my "semi-older" games on Win7 systems. It's been an exercise in troubleshooting! So far, I've had luck though.

First I installed realMyst (download version), trying to work with compatibility and widescreen resolutions. Then I put Ankh (disc) on my laptop. Had to patch it using Google translate (the readme was in French!). Then I installed the 4 disc version of Secret Files: Tunguska on my desktop. I had to install the Tages drivers for that one. Each game requires a different tweak!

Anyway, just wanted to say I understand how you feel about getting used to the mechanics of older games. But GameBoomers is a great place to search for answers or ask for help.
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#896147 - 06/21/13 06:21 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: lanlynk]
RichAlexis Offline
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Thanks, Lanlynk! wave

You get a wave back from me!

Yes, I had the same thing trying to get Atlantis II (aka Beyond Atlantis) running on Windows XP.

It took me ages, got it running in a Qemu Windows 95 emulation after much tweaking of DirectX settings, hardware acceleration, compatibility settings and the like.

Then I found a patch to get it running without all this tinkering.....

Still, a valuable learning experience - which I could share with others too!

As I haven't found the exact saving procedure for Pompeii anywhere yet, I will report on possible file naming conventions and the risk of overwriting later on.

Rich

P.S. At least I can read French and German reasonably well, being a fan of these mostly French-originated games wink

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#896152 - 06/21/13 06:45 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: lanlynk]
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Originally Posted By: lanlynk
Anyway, just wanted to say I understand how you feel about getting used to the mechanics of older games. But GameBoomers is a great place to search for answers or ask for help.

Some of the most confusing older games I played were those that were early 16-bit Windows games. You had to type in the name you wanted for your save, but it couldn't be more than 8 digits long and you had to add whatever extension the game wanted, be it .txt, .sav, or whatever. One game gave almost no clues at all -- it filled in ********.txt for me, but wouldn't accept that. Eventually I figured out I needed to replace the *'s with letters -- and no more than 8 of them. All the readme said was to type in the name of your save -- no details.

Another confusing one required you to click the picture of the screen, then type in a name before it would save. The trick was figuring out you had to give it a name. There was no box or anything to indicate you had to name it. Since some other games from around the same time only had a picture for a save, it wasn't obvious that you had to name it or do anything other than OK the picture of the save.

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#896504 - 06/23/13 01:31 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: Jenny100]
RichAlexis Offline
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Hi Jenny,

Thanks for letting me in on this!

So many games, so many customs, apparently. wink

I think it would make a valuable addition to walkthroughs, cheat sheets and the like. It's important to know how the controls of the game work before you start. It has very little to do with your intelligence or problem solving skills, which is what the game should be about.

Now I just read hints like "save as often as you can, but don't overwrite", while it would be great getting the exact details how to go about this.

Rich

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#997058 - 01/08/15 01:28 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: RichAlexis]
RichAlexis Offline
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I just found out a weird bug of the "Pompeii" game - multilingual DVD edition. If your system clock changes, which happens regularly at Daylight Saving Time in spring, and back in autumn, you lose all your saved games, and even the ability to use Visit Mode!

Or at least, the 'mtime' (modification time) of those saved files, which is used to preserve their order, gets messed up, because this is apparently calculated relative to the system time.

So, unless you find a way to edit these timestamps, the only thing you can do is start a new game, or perhaps even better, reinstall the whole thing!

I wonder if this is something that plagues other games too?

Rich

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#997080 - 01/08/15 02:36 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: RichAlexis]
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I've never experienced anything like that and I have several old games permanently installed on at least one of my computers eek
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#997088 - 01/08/15 02:51 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: Mad]
RichAlexis Offline
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Registered: 06/21/13
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Well, perhaps if you wait long enough for the clock to move back in fall, (or forward in spring) the problem resolves itself!

Rich

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#997119 - 01/08/15 07:44 PM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: RichAlexis]
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That is certainly a weird bug.
I suppose it's possible that some other games developed by Arxel might have the same problem -- at least if they produced saves in the same way.
http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/arxel-tribe-doo/developed-by/

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#997176 - 01/09/15 09:52 AM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: Jenny100]
RichAlexis Offline
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Yes, there is a possibility. sherlock

You come across errors like these on game boards, but it appears to be very rare:

Heroes Charge:
Quote:
Shortly before daylight savings, new day appears earlier (not normal) and some tasks reappear as completed (not normal) but neither can be selected (which is normal). Once the hour changes automatically, everything goes back to normal.

Reply: This is a known issue and is being worked on at this moment. Thanks for your effort.

Pokémon Black/White:
Quote:
This happened to me and I haven't been able to access the Dream World for a couple days now because I decided to finally update my DS' clock for daylight savings. It almost let me tuck in my Pokemon this morning, but then basically said "Nope, this Pokemon can't be tucked in!" and gave me the "Game Sync has run out of energy" deal again the next time I tried. I'm going to try your method tonight, here's hoping it works.
Rich

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#997192 - 01/09/15 11:20 AM Re: Saving problem with "Pompeii: Legend of Vesuvius" (aka Timescape) DVD [Re: RichAlexis]
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If you're going from a game started in winter to playing in summer, I suppose you could try disabling daylight time in your clock settings. I don't know if that would work though, and it wouldn't be so easy the other way (game started in summer). Have you tried resetting your computer clock by an hour?

I checked for Pompeii/Timelapse saved games at the usual saved game websites, and there weren't any.

Seems like a serious flaw in the game design for saves to be affected like this.

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