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#896801 - 06/24/13 11:30 PM WASD
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Well, for want of a better place to put it...why do developers use WASD? The arrow keys make more sense since the majority of people are right handed. (Sorry, lefties. grin)

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#896804 - 06/24/13 11:36 PM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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There are some explanations here that may help.
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#896808 - 06/25/13 12:06 AM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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I suppose it sounded logical to them. Maybe it is if you play with the keys and a mouse. I can't say I ever have and I probably won't since my left hand is purely for decoration. Well, it does back up the right from time to time.

And people complain about having to use the arrow keys or NumPad in Grim. Go figure.

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#896811 - 06/25/13 12:55 AM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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When I started doing a lot of keyboarding at work, I learned that moving the mouse to the left of the keyboard was actually more ergonomic, whether you're left or right-handed. With the mouse on the right, you're reaching over the NumPad to use the mouse; that stretch is enough to throw your right arm out of alignment. Putting the mouse on the left places it closer to the main typing keys. (You can also buy a keyboard with the NumPad on the left and keep the mouse on the right--serves the same purpose.)

So, even though I'm right-handed, I mouse with my left. Which means in games, if possible ... I remap the WASD keys to the arrows or other keys on the right so my arms are more comfortably aligned. yes
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#896826 - 06/25/13 05:21 AM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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I've tried to use the mouse on the left side with little sucess. I did use it once successfully though in a Tomb Raider game when Lora was on a motorcycle and I needed to shoot continously while using the arrow keys to drive.
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#896863 - 06/25/13 09:51 AM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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Thanks, Ana wave

I guess WoW has taught me to WASD and not think about it. lol
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#896884 - 06/25/13 11:31 AM Re: WASD [Re: looney4labs]
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Whilst I prefer "Mouse only" control I have got used to the WASD/Mouse combination because it's been required in so many RPGs.
[Well, the ones I've played, anyway yes]

Several other methods have been tried over the years and I have managed them (although some definitely warranted practise lol) but I think Mouse only or WASD/Mouse have proved to be the best for me thumbsup
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#896922 - 06/25/13 03:28 PM Re: WASD [Re: Mad]
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Originally Posted By: Mad
Whilst I prefer "Mouse only" control I have got used to the WASD/Mouse combination because it's been required in so many RPGs.

Me too. But the older I get, the less expert I am at using EITHER hand! Some RPG games can get real complicated with combat keys. I tend to avoid those. It's nice to get back to an adventure game now and then, enjoy the story, point-n-click in peace. lol
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#896933 - 06/25/13 05:30 PM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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It's tough on me ..being left handed I have my mouse on the left.. if I then try and use the wasd keys it is very uncomfortable. I like it when they give you the option to change the keys.... I always move them to the arrow keys.
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#896941 - 06/25/13 06:28 PM Re: WASD [Re: Kaki's Sister]
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Originally Posted By: Kaki's Sister
I've tried to use the mouse on the left side with little sucess. I did use it once successfully though in a Tomb Raider game when Lora was on a motorcycle and I needed to shoot continously while using the arrow keys to drive.

Wow! You're more talented than I am! Shooting AND driving. eek

It took me awhile to get used to mousing with my left hand. But it's turned out good really since I can now use my right hand for those more intricate keyboard moves: forward, back, hit, access, jump, etc. Of course, with an adventure game, it's not such a big deal using a mouse, left or right hand, for me, because most of the time, movement is relaxed.
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#896947 - 06/25/13 07:23 PM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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Just out of curiosity, lanlynk, how did you train your left hand? Did you just bumble through or was there something you did that helped you?

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#896949 - 06/25/13 07:27 PM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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My PC seems to be automatically set up so that I can use either the WASD or arrow keys! I like using the arrow keys better as they are isolated & there aren't any other distractive things around them like other letters as with the WASD keys! lol If I have to use the mouse at the same time I just move my keyboard further to the left & the mouse further to the right! smile

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#896970 - 06/25/13 08:55 PM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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Originally Posted By: traveler
Just out of curiosity, lanlynk, how did you train your left hand? Did you just bumble through or was there something you did that helped you?

Just bumbled, I guess. Although, this wasn't the first time I've used my left hand for what I normally use my right hand for. I think taking typing classes and piano lessons probably helped train both hands. And in cooking and other work activities (vacuuming, for example), I tend to consciously switch hands to balance muscle strain.

Also, years ago, when I was exploring right brain/left brain theories, I practiced using my left hand to sketch and to write in my journal. Those activities were suppose to help bypass logical thought processes and encourage the intuitive, creative mind. Not sure how those experiments helped. I did come up with some wild drawings and sloppy journal entries though. lol
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#896971 - 06/25/13 09:00 PM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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Lol! I just tried switching hands with the mouse and I found that I couldn't even remember what the buttons were for unless I concentrated! Sort of like touch typing, I guess - touch mousing. If you have to think, you don't do very well.

I ended up bouncing through the topics on this site when I was trying to use Opera gestures. Whoee! I'm confused enough without that!

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#896976 - 06/25/13 09:16 PM Re: WASD [Re: traveler]
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What works best depends on the game.
Though I like point-and-click, it doesn't work well with some games that use real-time 3D engines.
I don't like to click-and-drag the mouse. It feels clumsy.
I prefer WASD (or WASD with mouse) to click-and-drag.
Games should allow you to map the keyboard to use either WASD or arrow keys (for those that prefer them).

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