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#898998 - 07/05/13 01:51 AM Thoughts on Mass Effect 3
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As suggested by L4L I'm going to start a new thread. After finishing ME1 and playing most of ME2 I'm wondering about whether it would be worth looking into Mass Effect 3.

I've been reading and getting mixed reactions to ME3 so thought I'd ask to see if any Boomers have played the entire series.

There are those who really have negative things to say about ME3 and those who really like it. The most negative comments I've read are about the ending and, although one may not like an ending, I can't see that being a reason to dis the whole game.

Anyway if any on you have played the entire series I'd like any thoughts, pro or con, you may have.

If I get ME3 I have to go with Origin as Steam is not carrying it. Not a deciding factor as I have accounts with both.
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#898999 - 07/05/13 02:11 AM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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You should play no matter, what others think of it.
It's the ultimate ending to a wonderful series smile

So go ahead and dig into the characters once again.


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#899007 - 07/05/13 02:51 AM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Agree with misslilo, definitely worth playing.

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#899033 - 07/05/13 06:20 AM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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If you do get Mass Effect 3, be sure to download the Extended Cut. (from Origin, I think? or maybe the Bioware forums? The Extended Cut changes the ending a bit (or quite a bit as far I've heard). And it does make the ending more reasonable....
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#899191 - 07/05/13 05:12 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Thanks for the input folks. Guess I'll go ahead and take the plunge. I do like the series so far just wish they hadn't changed so much in ME2 (No inventory and no map to be specific) however, I'm pretty much used to it by now.

Looking forward to ME3 once I complete ME2.

Thanks again for the advice.
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#899236 - 07/05/13 09:00 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Oldman, do come back and let us know your impressions when you get it. wave
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#899295 - 07/06/13 09:13 AM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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And please do not forget the different dlcs to Mass Effect 3, I think there are 2 or 3 dlcs you can buy. If do get the digital deluxe version one of these dlcs is included in the game.
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#899432 - 07/06/13 08:12 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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And if you dislike the different endings, there's always the happy ending mod.

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#899806 - 07/08/13 02:02 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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oldman,

I played the three games and more than once too as different characters. You can import your characater from ME2 to ME3. Is is good to make sure you have got the best ending of ME2 into ME3 because what happens to your friends depends on that. Alternatively you can tweak the stats, unless you are very reluctant to cheat a bit, with This Editor , with it once you start ME3 and save as soon as you are allowed, you can open the saved game with the Editor. Once the saved game is opened you can tweak it changing things that happened to your character in previous games, particularly ME2. If done properly this gives the best start for ME3.


If you didn't get a very good ending in ME2 (every member is alive an loyal) and are playing as a soldier or infiltrator I should be able to pass you a good start for ME3 in case you don't want to tweak it yourself or if you have problems with the editor I can tweak it for you if you send me a very early saved game for ME3.

I may have a good start for adept too.

Smiley456, thanks for the happy ending, I got the best ending but not happy, I will use the mod to have a deserved ending. penguin thanks


Edited by mcc (07/08/13 02:13 PM)
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#899825 - 07/08/13 03:59 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Thanks Mcc wave
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#899826 - 07/08/13 03:59 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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MCC: I sent you an email. Thanks for the information and the offer.
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#899861 - 07/08/13 06:30 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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I answered your email, let me know if you have got it. If you decide on a DLC, in my opinion From Ashes is worth it, one gets Javick as a team mate and particle rifle, I used him a lot particularly against fast enemies.

Equip Javic with this weapon and incendiary ammo and kill everything on sight devil
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#900043 - 07/09/13 02:09 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Have done so in the emails but wanted to thank you publically. You went above and beyond to help me and I really appreciate it.
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#900086 - 07/09/13 04:45 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Awful as a RPG. Mediocre as a stand-alone sci-fi action game. Bad as a Mass Effect game.

Repetitive, fetch-quests, overall bad writing, an awful ending...there are many problems with it. The ending is definitely not the only thing wrong with the game.
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#900758 - 07/12/13 06:33 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Well I've run into a game stopper for me. I'm on the mission where I'm supposed to beat the Reaper on Rannoch and I'm supposed to dodge the Reaper and target him and it is not a thing I am able to do at all.

I've read all the tips on it and viewed the You tube videos on beating the Reaper but it is beyond the capabilities of my feeble fingers.

If no one knows of a cheat to get past this sequence then I guess I'll just have to do all the other quests possible and then dock my space ship cause every time I try to aim I die.
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#900779 - 07/12/13 08:32 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Eeeeek, I hate that. Is there a God mode?

edit: Wiki has tons of tweaks including a God mode.

I don't tweak my games so can't tell you what might happen, but if you aren't going to be able to play otherwise, it's an option.


Edited by looney4labs (07/12/13 08:35 PM)
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#900805 - 07/12/13 10:50 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Unfortunately God Mode doesn't work on this particular battle. I've checked and there doesn't seem to be any cheat workaround either. All the other boards say how simple it is (easy for them to say).

Oh well (sigh) it's just too much for me. hardwall
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#900867 - 07/13/13 09:49 AM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Hi Oldman smile

In the menu screen you can choose between three different game modes e.g. story mode and combat one and a third one I've forgotten about.

Storymode is the one that lets you experience the story, and you can get by with a only minimum of combat. In the ME3 demo I played a long time ago, I found that it worked well to crawl or hide and use grenades and suich things.

Have you tried turning the difficulty down also?

And you do remember you have sqad/team members as well? Just set them do what what they automaticcally...

Also, did you enable the console?
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#900897 - 07/13/13 12:01 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Hi, Oldman

Have you tried the tips here?

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/PC_Tweaks_%28Mass_Effect_3%29

You need a hex editor, which will allow you to tweak the dev console.

I forgot to mention this part in my post, yet another example of the truly awful design of this game. This type of sequence has nothing to do in what titles itself RPG.
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#900899 - 07/13/13 12:10 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Aww, Oldman I'm so sorry those wiki didn't help you.

Thanks Karsten and Drizzt for the help.
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#900900 - 07/13/13 12:16 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Aww, Oldman I'm so sorry those wiki tips didn't help you.

Thanks Karsten and Drizzt for the help. Maybe one of those tips will be the key you need, Oldman. puppy


Edited by looney4labs (07/13/13 12:16 PM)
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#900936 - 07/13/13 04:42 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: Drizzt]
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I have read all of the tweaks etc but when they mention hex editor my mind whirls. It is a little above my pay grade.

I was kind of looking for a simple cheat that would let you bypass a particular quest and show it complete so you could continue in the game but so far no luck.

Thanks though for all the helpful comments.

I always play on the easiest mode possible but this quest has Shepard doing it solo and he dies even in God Mode.
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#900941 - 07/13/13 04:49 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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That's rather evil sad
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#900983 - 07/13/13 07:45 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Would someone's game save help? Or is this too much of an RPG game to make that work? I've never played any of the Mass Effect series.

EDIT: What about that game save editor that mcc mentioned? Can you mark a quest as completed with it?


Edited by lanlynk (07/13/13 08:00 PM)
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#901003 - 07/13/13 09:11 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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If I could find a save game somewhere I would be happy to use it just to get beyond this deadlock for me. I wouldn't care what the Shepard character was or looked like if it would get me past this finger twitching area. It is very good suggestion but I've searched and can't find any save games.

The editor I tried and it doesn't seem to have an option to mark a quest as completed.

I appear to be right now up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle.

Bet thanks all for the suggestions.
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#901142 - 07/14/13 01:24 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Hmmmm, Oldman, I searched for saved games. Found plenty for ME 1 & 2 but not for 3. sad
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#901182 - 07/14/13 07:06 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Have you also tried trainers, Oldman?
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#901332 - 07/15/13 01:11 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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As I remember it from Baldur's Gate and Dragon Age: Origins, there should be a cheat that lets you kill all enemies in the area? IN BG1 and BG2, it was CTRL-Y which killed all enemies in the area. (had to use it ine time in BG1 and one time in BG2)

Isn't there a cheat at all which lets you heal Shepard instantly? And do the game still pause when you hit the spacebar?

Also, this Oldman: What class are you? A soldier or a (bio)engineer?

Oldman, does the Reaper you meet alone as Shepard have the sign of a miniboss or boss? (welcome to the boss level as the main enemy in Wreck it Ralph says) If it is/does, it seems to that Bioware are up to their old tricks again. And by that I mean this:

In BG1, BG2, Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age: Origins, and DA2 as well BIoware made (makes) boss battles ridiculously challening, even more challenging that they need to be. (Hello, Rock Beast in DA2).

Oldman, to ghet back to your question, I found this: http://www.nightsolo.net/games/masseffect3/hints.html

Do you have the 1.5 version of the game? If you do be warned:
Quote:
In version 1.5, the console no longer exists, and this whole section is useless.
This could explain why your Shepard keep dying ? as God mode in version 1.5 simply doesn't exist.

Why Bioware would do this, I don't know? But maybe their telemetry (digital feedback to Bioware) has shown that people used to cheat much more than they, Bioware, would like.

Anyway, to enable God mode, type "God" Without the quotationsmark); you can all kill a target using the "Kill Target" command. The "KillEnimies" commmand kills all enemies in the current map.

Another you could do is to ask for help at the Bioware ME forums:http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/category/355/index

I'll try and see if I can't dig up something helpful here as well.

I really think you should write a personal handwritten letter to Bioware's offices in Edmonton, Canada, explaining the how and why of your troubles with the quest. And that the quest where Shepard is to solely kill a Reaper has you nearly abandoing their otherwise fine game.
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#901334 - 07/15/13 01:19 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Searching for Reaper on Rannocnk, I found this:
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/54158/how-do-i-beat-the-reaper-on-rannoch

Apparently, you can get some help from the fleet:

Quote:
Shepard has a targeting laser which will call in an orbital strike with the combined might of the Quarian Migrant Fleet, but there's two major problems standing between the commander and victory.


The answers seem to be this (excerpt)
Quote:

Yes, aiming is much faster when not walking. It also helps to understand how the reaper aims. Once the reaper starts shooting the beam will not change direction anymore. So if you keep on walking to the right all time, it will hit you, but if you walk to the left and just after the reaper beam is visible to the right again, the beam will totally miss you. For the slow-motion sequence you absolutely have to hit the red dot of the eye. Strangely it worked here only after I made a sidewards roll.


And this:

Quote:
This was a very frustrating battle. The trick about the targeting laser is that it doesn't actually require you to complete the targeting lock in a single fire. You can completely let go of the trigger and run to the side, then re-aim, making increments of progress each time. The other thing I noticed, which was non-obvious to me the first several times I died in the final slow motion sequence, was that the targeting seemed to work much more quickly if your aim was as close as possible to the center of the red eye (not just "Am I in the blue target circle?"). I haven't replayed to confirm with Science™ that this is indeed true, but on my successful completion I made sure to aim dead center and it was all over very quickly.



Also, the # 9 answer from http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/54158/how-do-i-beat-the-reaper-on-rannoch
should prove usefull, I think smile

edit:
Another good piece of advice comes from answer # 2: "Strafe" which means run around in circles and make sure not to be hit by the Reaper's eye-ehm-shot?




Edited by Karsten (07/15/13 01:21 PM)
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#901345 - 07/15/13 02:02 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Thank you Karston, I have read all the tips on this battle and just can't do it. I don't have the patience to just keep dying over and over until I can finally get it done. I did manage to get through two of the three strikes that are necessary but when I die I have to start over and the two I completed are no longer valid.

Anyway I have given up on this battle. The reason God mode doesn't work is because it is the same as the falling off a cliff scenario and god mode doesn't work.

I've long since decided that as I originally suggested a save game is my only option even though I would have to accept someone else's Shepard. I even tried the save game editor but that has no option to complete missions.

Thanks for doing so much research for me though.
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#901559 - 07/16/13 11:06 AM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Thanks Karsten wave

Oldman, so sorry you hit this wall. <sad>
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#901846 - 07/17/13 06:09 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Oh Boy, this is a complicated and frustrating fight but in easy mode is very doable. I have several saved games but I don't know if your program would take them, maybe changing the name with the editor would do the trick. For the moment I'll try to find the youtube that gave me the idea how to avoid being killed, I was just jumping the wrong way. It doesn't need very quick fingers rather jump at the right moment in the right direction.

The important thing is for you to keep alive and go slowly in killing the reaper. HERE there is somebody taking it very very slowly, you don't need to be THAT careful but you can. This is not the video that helped me but it may help you understand the mechanism for killing him.

Let me know if you are still stuck after this, I have been very busy and not come as often as normal in GameBoomers but you can send me an email, that I always read, and if at that moment I cannot send you a save I will let you know when.


Edited by mcc (07/17/13 06:21 PM)
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#901850 - 07/17/13 06:41 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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Thanks Mcc...that's very nice.

Oldman that sounds like just what you were looking for
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#901875 - 07/17/13 08:02 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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And HERE there is a very good explanation on how to beat the reaper.

The first time I played that part I didn't understand how to deal with it.
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#901884 - 07/17/13 09:15 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: mcc]
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At this point I am so frustrated over this battle that if I try one more time I might lose it. scared crazy smashpc

A little over reaction I know but it's just a lot of too many hints coming from too many directions that are giving me a massive headache. (again some overreaction.)

Anyway, again since you offered I will be sending you an email with so much gratitude for the offer. thanks
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#901893 - 07/17/13 10:04 PM Re: Thoughts on Mass Effect 3 [Re: oldman]
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