Re: Steam
[Re: Mary]
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07/20/13 10:41 AM
07/20/13 10:41 AM
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bigmamma1
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Interesting discussion I too signed up for Steam because a few games Ive wanted were on sale. However I've had a few problems signing in and getting some of them into my "library". Havn't even tried to downnload any of them yet. The frustrating thing is: They don't have any way of problem solving except via email, which they seem not to respond to very quickly from what I've read on other forums. (I solved my problem by googling it-finally, after wasting untold amts. of time) It would be nice if they at least had a "chat" ability. Anyway, I see the whole game buying world changing from disk to download very rapidly. Theres nothing we can do to change it except vote with our feet-I for one am going to do business with GOG and any who dont require 3rd party.No more Steam. I can see a future where games will be "rented" for a fee each time you play,which would be OK as long as fee was small and game easy to access when you want to play it. What do you think?
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Re: Steam
[Re: bigmamma1]
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07/20/13 11:15 AM
07/20/13 11:15 AM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644 southeast USA
Jenny100
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I can see a future where games will be "rented" for a fee each time you play,which would be OK as long as fee was small and game easy to access when you want to play it. What do you think? It's not acceptable for me, and I doubt it would be acceptable for anyone with limited playing time -- and who very likely wouldn't be able to finish the game within the time limit. It doesn't make sense to put other responsibilities on the back burner because you have to finish a game within the alloted time -- and yes there are ways to make a game stop working after a certain period of time. Fortunately I have many older games on disc, and one of the few good things about a bad memory is that an old game is like a brand new game when you replay. And as long as DRM-free shops like GOG and DotEMU exist there's no need to give up on newer games anyway. But if the choice was between rented games and no games at all, I'd choose no games at all. I don't like being cheated. Nor do I appreciate essentially being told I have to adapt to the convenience (or moneymaking scheme) of the publisher. Not going to happen. Yes, a conundrum indeed !! And I'm all for "sticking it out" too. But not if my taking that action would be misunderstood by Developers in the way you suggest, You can always write to the developer and clarify the matter. If they don't care enough to provide contact information, that's their loss, but most of them do -- even if it's only posting a message on their forums.
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Re: Steam
[Re: cassadaga]
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07/20/13 03:46 PM
07/20/13 03:46 PM
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Posts: 34,363 United Kingdom
Mad
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Nearly all my games are on disk - old games AND new ones. I have very few downloaded ones (apart from my GOG purchases) and I would like it to stay that way I simply didn't know until this game arrived (disk version) that I had to register with Steam in order to be able to play it - or I wouldn't have ever bought it !! [I bought it from Amazon and there was just NO mention of Steam in the game details at Amazon.] I don't have any other Steam games. And (Jenny100) when new games in development start to get publicity I am one of the first to make contact and ask if a disk version will be available Obviously, choice is the thing. It's my choice whether I buy a download or a disk version or neither !!
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Re: Steam
[Re: Mad]
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07/20/13 04:17 PM
07/20/13 04:17 PM
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Posts: 40,644 southeast USA
Jenny100
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I simply didn't know until this game arrived (disk version) that I had to register with Steam in order to be able to play it - or I wouldn't have ever bought it !! [I bought it from Amazon and there was just NO mention of Steam in the game details at Amazon.] Sometimes they'll list "Internet connection" in the system requirements of a single player game. If they do, you'll know it has some form of online DRM attached to it. And (Jenny100) when new games in development start to get publicity I am one of the first to make contact and ask if a disk version will be available. Unfortunately, as you found out, a disc version doesn't ensure a game doesn't have online authentication (which can mean Steam or limited installs). The company might tell you if their game uses Steam, but they won't tell you what type of DRM it uses.
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Re: Steam
[Re: Jenny100]
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07/21/13 09:52 AM
07/21/13 09:52 AM
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Mad
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Hi Jenny100 Although such a thing no doubt exists, I've never seen "Internet connection" listed in the advertised requirements of any game I would be interested in buying. And as for DRM stuff. Yes, I do now have several (disk versions) games that require using an "activation code" before being allowed to play. But I only need to use the code on installation. I don't have to log-in to a particular site every time I just want to play further - as I do with Steam Unfortunately, as we are all aware, none of the DRM stuff brought out to date appears to be preventing piracy. But it certainly can upset genuine customers like me !! However, I've no wish to start yet another thread on THAT subject so I'll shut up now !!!!
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Re: Steam
[Re: Mary]
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07/28/13 12:42 AM
07/28/13 12:42 AM
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Posts: 2,000 Hicksville, NY USA
sanford
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Hi, fellow Boomers. I recently purchased "The Raven" pre-order download from AMAZON. In their description of the game, they added "Online Code Needed". Since I didn't know what that meant, I e-mailed Amazon Support with my question and they promptly replied explaining that it was a "Steam" game that would be downloaded FROM Steam when the game would be ready to be accessed. Since I am a Steam "member", I had no problem with that. They also told me that I could cancel my order if I chose to do that. So on July 23, I did download this game by receiving a CODE KEY from Amazon and followed their instructions on how to download through STEAM. I followed their clear instructions, and now I own another Steam game. BTW, Also included in the instructions was a step by step description about activating a NEW Steam account for non-Steam members. Sandy Oh yes, the reason I didn't buy the game from Steam directly was because I had an Amazon Gift Certificate that I could use.
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