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#922400 - 11/04/13 01:49 PM Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret
Lozza Offline
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Hi. I bought all three of the Adam Venture games and had problems with them all. I was playing on my Windows 7 laptop as my PC was away at the hospital. In number one he got to a place in the game and he just hung from a ledge and nothing would make him continue. Number three was difficult to play but I soldiered on and managed to finish it. I didn't even open number two. Anyhoo, I have my PC back now all well. No one played well but refused to save my progress. The checkpoints worked as long as the game was running. That too I managed to play by not shutting down! The second one also played well on my XP graphics so much better than my laptop, except half way in up popped a windows error, it said Venture game exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. Can you help please? Is there any way at all of getting past this error? I am determined to finish all three if at all possible. thanks.

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#922628 - 11/05/13 11:44 AM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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Hi Lozza,

We need to know your computers' specs to make sure they meet the Adam Venture games' requirements. Knowing your video card and how much video memory it has is especially important for 3D games like the Adam's Venture series.

If you don't know your video card, Inferno's instructions for using the Belarc Advisor are still good --> ***link to Inferno's site***

Instead of Belarc you can use Speccy, which will also find your computer's specs for you
http://www.piriform.com/speccy

The most important determinants for whether a modern game will work are the video card, discrete video memory, and system memory. Unless the computer is old, system memory isn't usually the problem.

If your video card meets the requirements, then we have to consider whether different video drivers would be more compatible with the game.

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#922649 - 11/05/13 12:13 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
Lozza Offline
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I will get my long suffering son to do as you ask. Thank you for getting back. let you know how it all goes soon.

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#922664 - 11/05/13 01:45 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
Lozza Offline
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#922684 - 11/05/13 02:31 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
Draclvr Offline
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I'll let Jenny give you the details because I don't know the game requirements, but I believe that herein lies your problem.

ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [Display adapter]

This is a very low end old graphics adapter.
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#922725 - 11/05/13 05:28 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
Lozza Offline
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Thank you for that what can I do to sort it please?

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#922727 - 11/05/13 05:40 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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If you plan on playing new adventure games, to be honest... a new computer. You would need a new video card and most likely a new power supply. I also only see about 5 GB of free space on the hard drive. This motherboard has an old PCI interface for the video card which is only step above the old AGP interface. And Microsoft will be ceasing all support for XP in less than 6 months.

It's not impossible, but would probably only be a temporary fix until some adventure game came out with higher video requirements.

Let's see what Jenny thinks...
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#922732 - 11/05/13 06:05 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
Lozza Offline
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Oh dear, thank you.

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#922751 - 11/05/13 08:51 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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I agree with Draclvr on this one.
According to these links, the ATI HD3200 uses shared memory and is not good for gaming.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-3200.9591.0.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/252841-33-card-good-radeon-3200-graphics-rs780

The specs you listed for the computer make it look like the video card was not meant to be upgraded.
It doesn't have a good PCI slot for a new video card.

The computer may work for some games, but it's going to struggle with most newer ones, the way it's struggling with Adam's Venture.

If you go shopping for a new computer, be sure you know what you're getting. Some store clerks take advantage of people who don't know a good video card from a bad one. They'll tell you a computer will play any game just to sell it to you, when in fact it has low end graphics and won't play games well at all (unless all you play is solitaire).

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#922753 - 11/05/13 08:56 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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Keep in mind that all new computers will have Windows 8 on them. As I've gotten to know my way around it, I like it and have found it's very good for gaming. But if it's not your "cup of tea," you can still get one built for you with Windows 7 on it.
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#922919 - 11/06/13 03:58 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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Thank you both very much for your time and trouble I have two things that are perplexing me. Why did I have a awful problem trying to play the Adam Venture games on windows 7 which I have on my lap top as I explained earlier? I have held on to my XP as I thought all my older games would work better on it. The graphics on the windows 7 were fuzzy and the movements of the characters were jerky and difficult to maneuver. On my XP it ran great on episode two until the error message. On episode one it played great apart from not letting me save. On episode three (played on my lap top, windows 7, I managed to get it to play but it was not great and had to on occasions hold my finger on the up button to get Adam to climb the ladder.....and up over the other side. I intend to play episode three to see if things run better on my XP. Thing is my computer guy has already told me he can "build" me a version of windows 8 that should run better while playing my games successfully. I find the windows 7 on my lap top really good for everything else I need to do,it is faster and more efficient, but I find these older games don't play on it very well. How can I tell if my computer guy can do what he says? He is part of a company not a guy on his own. Thanks again for your time and trouble. I really appreciate it as I am a complete computer idiot but do love playing my games.

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#922925 - 11/06/13 04:15 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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Originally Posted By: Lozza
Why did I have a awful problem trying to play the Adam Venture games on windows 7 which I have on my lap top as I explained earlier?

It probably has Intel graphics instead of an ATI or Nvidia card. Even a slow ATI or Nvidia card is better than Intel graphics. Not only are Intel graphics slow to start with, the Intel drivers have poor compatibility with games.

That's a guess because you gave us the specs of your XP desktop and not your laptop.

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On my XP it ran great on episode two until the error message.

That might be due to a problem with the game. As I said before, ShinyLoot removed Adam's Venture 2 from their game list, while they still offer 1 and 3. So other people may also have had a problem with #2.

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On episode one it played great apart from not letting me save.

Not letting you save on XP may have to do with the drivers not being compatible or with your antivirus blocking the game, but I can't be sure.

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On episode three (played on my lap top, windows 7, I managed to get it to play but it was not great and had to on occasions hold my finger on the up button to get Adam to climb the ladder.....and up over the other side.

That part about using the "up" button sounds like the way the game is supposed to work.

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I intend to play episode three to see if things run better on my XP. Thing is my computer guy has already told me he can "build" me a version of windows 8 that should run better while playing my games successfully. I find the windows 7 on my lap top really good for everything else I need to do,it is faster and more efficient, but I find these older games don't play on it very well. How can I tell if my computer guy can do what he says?


Ask him what video card he wants to put in the computer. We can tell from that how well games are apt to work.

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#922940 - 11/06/13 05:08 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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As Jenny says, simply putting Windows 7 or Windows 8 on this old computer is not going to change anything. And that assumes there are Windows 8 drivers for the old components. If it still has that old 3200 Graphics Adapter, games are STILL not going to work well on it. I'd love to know what he would put into this old PC for a video card using that PCI slot.

The operating system has much less to do with how games work than having a good stand-alone video card. I'm sure your Windows 7 laptop probably has integrated Intel graphics, whether integrated into the motherboard or the processor. Again as Jenny says, they are dreadful for gaming.

If you get a new computer capable of running new adventure games, you would need a new computer from the ground up, not a patch-up for the old XP computer. As I said in my other post, it would be a temporary fix until the next adventure game comes along with higher computer requirements.
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#922944 - 11/06/13 05:29 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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Thank you once again. Oh dear, I am afraid I did not explain myself correctly. When I said my guy was going to make a computer for me he meant a new windows eight but sort of bespoke to myself and my games, and still keep all my old stuff like photos and downloaded games I don't really want to lose etc. at the same time making my machine compatible with old and new games alike. Is that possible?

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#922955 - 11/06/13 06:33 PM Re: Adam Venture Episode 2 Solomon's Secret [Re: Lozza]
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If he would build you a new computer from scratch with a good stand-alone video card, than yes. All your photos and downloads could be transferred. You would need to reinstall all your games and other programs. However, there is nothing he can do to make a Windows 7 or Windows 8 machine compatible with all old games. There are going to be some games which won't work on the new operating systems. Check out our Windows 7 and Games and Windows 8 and Games threads stickied at the top of the Glitches forum for lists of games that are working and ones that won't.

You don't have to get Windows 8 if you don't think you will like this new operating system. He can still get Windows 7 for a new computer. But you might check out Windows 8 and see what you think. There are tons of websites out there that show you what it is.

Again, as we said, this is all dependent on what components he uses to build a new computer - especially that video card. If you go that route, I'd suggest getting a list of the components and posting them here. I've learned to not exactly trust these folks when it comes to gaming.
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