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#928480 - 12/06/13 08:26 PM New video card for old system
SharonB Offline
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It's going to be some time for me to get a new system. Life happens... Anyway, I was looking at the game Cognition and it demands 1GB of video memory. A few other games wanted more graphic ram than I have as well (256).

I was wondering if I could replace my nvidia 7900GS with a cheap card with more memory and not lose performance value.

Specifically, I was looking at this card -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125427 and hoping I could play some of these other games. http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Mini-...graphics+card-- Or this one

What do you think?


Edited by SharonB (12/06/13 08:47 PM)

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#928497 - 12/06/13 10:10 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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I understand... sometimes life just doesn't let you go out and plop down money for an awesome gaming computer.

A couple of questions first... does your motherboard support these video card interfaces? And do you have enough wattage in your power supply?
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#928503 - 12/07/13 12:30 AM Re: New video card for old system [Re: Draclvr]
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Sharon the first card you linked to requires 300W of power, while the second one requires a minimum of 300W. You have to also take into account all the other things your power supply runs, so unless you have a power supply larger than 300W you might find running either of these two a bit difficult. Also, both require a PCI slot.
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#928506 - 12/07/13 01:31 AM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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And specifically a PCI-E 2.0 slot...
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#928522 - 12/07/13 06:38 AM Re: New video card for old system [Re: Draclvr]
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I had a 400 watt power supply put in when I got my 7900GS. I know I have a PCI-E slot, but don't know the version number.

I don't know the quality of the cards I'm looking at. The card I have is labled a mid-range (in 2007/2008) while the cards I'm looking at are labled entry level or low level. I don't want to trade down for the sake of some extra ram.

My current card is a PNY.

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#928543 - 12/07/13 09:22 AM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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In that case either card is fine. It would be good to know your PCI-E version though. Do you have info on the model of your motherboard?
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#928580 - 12/07/13 12:23 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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While ether card will supply the required ram specs, neither will perform as well as your current card, they have a very narrow 64 bit memory bus.

If you can afford something slightly more expensive, and have room in the case for it, I'd look at something like this -

GeForce GTS 450

It's not the fastest card out there, but is an improvement compared to your current card. Newegg has one available for $60.00 after a mail in rebate.

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#928582 - 12/07/13 12:26 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
Draclvr Offline
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I love it when Inland is here - I always learn something new! While certainly nothing to write home about, I would have thought these newer cards would perform at least a little better than the 7900GS.
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#928617 - 12/07/13 03:03 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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Thanks, Inland.
Too many people think new cards outperform old ones just because they're new, when it isn't true at all.

Only thing I wonder about is whether the GTS 450 will work with only a 400 Watt power supply.
I didn't see a minimum power supply listed at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134119

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#928627 - 12/07/13 03:43 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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I don't know if it's still happening, but I remember something about them simply rebranding the older cards with new numbers with virtually no improvements at one time.
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#928637 - 12/07/13 04:02 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: Jenny100]
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Thanks, Inland.
Too many people think new cards outperform old ones just because they're new, when it isn't true at all.

Only thing I wonder about is whether the GTS 450 will work with only a 400 Watt power supply.
I didn't see a minimum power supply listed at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134119


It's in the link I posted (near the bottom) -

Thermal and Power Specs


Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 100 C
Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) 106 W
Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 400 W
Supplementary Power Connectors 6-pin

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#928643 - 12/07/13 04:24 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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I wish Newegg and other retailers would publish that info along with the product. I've had to go to the manufacturer more than once to find it.
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#928645 - 12/07/13 04:27 PM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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Thanks, Inland.
And I completely agree, Draclvr.
What makes it worse is when one manufacturer says one thing and another manufacturer says another about cards with the same chipset.

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#928682 - 12/08/13 01:21 AM Re: New video card for old system [Re: Jenny100]
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Thanks, Inland.
And I completely agree, Draclvr.
What makes it worse is when one manufacturer says one thing and another manufacturer says another about cards with the same chipset.


It can be a pain, can't it. And.. BTW - GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator thumbsup I've enjoyed the reviews, you've got the knack.

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#928719 - 12/08/13 10:27 AM Re: New video card for old system [Re: SharonB]
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Who knew Jenny could not only fix our computer glitches, but could also turn quite a phrase! I've been enjoying them too.
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