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#93289 - 04/20/01 11:13 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
syd Offline
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Registered: 11/12/99
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Space Quest my hardest answer is coming up with 5 reasons to buy a game - I can only come up with two -

#1 Because it's there and
#2 Because of Laura

Stephen I wish to thank you and Emma for clarifying the meaning behind the dark room scene. I don't know if I could ever listen to it again but at least I now have a better understanding of what was happening.

The game up until that point and afterward was truly wonderful - in fact the chapter on Giselle really struck a chord with me because I have an extremely overweight niece. I remember all the ribbing and rude comments made to her as she was growing up - and like Giselle, she is one of the sweetest human beings I have ever had the privilege of knowing.
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#93290 - 04/21/01 09:06 AM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
gatorlaw Offline
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Registered: 11/01/99
Posts: 10312
Now Syd... You know that can't be your game purchase incentive - cause I only buy them cause of you and cause they are there. heh-heh

Hey we are single handedly egging each other on and saving the genre. We rule bwah-ha-ha-ha

cough, cough , sputter - time for some more coffee.

Laura



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#93291 - 04/21/01 03:40 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
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Registered: 11/06/00
Posts: 243
Loc: Pennsylvania
I too loved the game. But more importantly, the music was awesome. To hear Sarah Vaughn, my all time favorite jazz singer, and Nat "King" Cole while I am playing a computer game was almost too good to be true. I was unaware that there is a soundtrack associated with the game. Very fitting.
I commend you in your choice of music, as it serves to memorialize these great artists in a different medium where otherwise the paths may never cross.

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#93292 - 04/21/01 09:23 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
granny Offline
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Registered: 08/27/99
Posts: 7407
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida USA
Hi Stephen,
Who do I Email to find out if certain games are back in stock yet??? I want to order 3 more.

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#93293 - 04/21/01 09:59 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
gatorlaw Offline
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Registered: 11/01/99
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Granny, you can order these games directly thorugh Arxel at their on-line store

Pilgrim
Legend of the Prophet and the Assasin
Legend 2

Go here: Arxel Shop

Pompeii (Timescape)
Ring
Faust
Messenger (Louvre)

Can be ordered through Dreamcatcher at:
Dreamcatcher

And Paris 1313 is soon to be available at

Playing Games

Laura

[This message has been edited by gatorlaw (edited 04-21-2001).]
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#93294 - 04/22/01 08:17 AM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
burpee Offline
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Registered: 12/14/00
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Loc: North aurora IL
I got such a wonderful response to the darkroom episode that I thought that maybe someone could explain the very end to me.
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Mephisto says that he loves Gisele and then wants out of being the demon. Is it because of Gisele? And why exactly was Faust voted to be the proprietor, they mentioned that he had lost his wings because of the trouble he caused in the park. Nancy

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#93295 - 04/22/01 08:31 AM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
gatorlaw Offline
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Registered: 11/01/99
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Excellent topic Nancy.


I thought about this myself for quite a while. I do believe that Mephisto was in his role as a sort of penance/ purgatory. A curse in a way. To leave he needs a replacement. The replacement in turn has the chance to redeem themselves for some past life choice. Mephisto struck me through out this game as a weary spirit. One who had this "role" assigned to him as the arbitor of who has led a life worthy of redemption and who had not. The temptations offered up my him were trials of that comitment to lead a worthy life.

I definitely believe that Giselle had such a pure spirit that after all the tortured and greedy spirits he had encountered - he was enraptured. This "love" also pained him and made him so weary of his assigned path in the scheme of good and evil.

I did wonder at Fausts choices that led him here (there were some vague hints as I recall) However - I decided that the what and where was probably unimportant. It was about who he really was instead.

Any other insight on the Faustian choice at the end and Mephisto/ Giselle ? I really enjoyed this ending.

Laura
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#93296 - 04/22/01 10:38 AM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
Jenny100 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/00
Posts: 35619
Loc: southeast USA
I ordered Pilgrim, Legend of the Prophet, and Secrets of Alamut (Legend 2) from the Arxel online shop way back on March 15. They charged my credit card immediately and my games are still nowhere in sight. Arxel refuses to answer emails. The last one I received was on April 4, saying the games were on back order and someone would get back to me about why I hadn't been contacted earlier. No one got back with me. As far as I know they STILL haven't got the games in.

Although I enjoy Arxel's games, I wouldn't recommend their online shop to anyone. My experience is not unique either, judging by what I've read over at the JA forum.

It doesn't seem to me to be such a difficult thing to make sure you have the merchandise in stock before you go charging your customers' credit cards. No other reputable online vendor that I know of does that. You charge when the item is shipped, not months in advance.

[This message has been edited by Jenny100 (edited 04-22-2001).]

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#93297 - 04/22/01 02:12 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
burpee Offline
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Registered: 12/14/00
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Loc: North aurora IL
Laura, I really like your take on the ending. It was such a surprise that Mephisto admitted caring about Giselle because I saw his character as being the devil at first.
This ending shows the ability of evil to become good, maybe that nothing is black and white.

And Jenny100, sorry to hear about the purchasing issue with Arxel. I'm sure you'll get the games eventually but it would be nice to not be charged until they're shipped. Not getting an e-mail/phone call back from someone is the world's number 1 pet pevee I believe. Hope you hear soon

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#93298 - 04/22/01 02:15 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
ladyyve Offline
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Registered: 12/09/00
Posts: 1719
Loc: La Puente, CA, USA
I'm shocked to hear that, Jenny. I was just about ready to order Pilgrim from them.

Thank you for letting us know.

I feel certain that Stephen is unaware of this and will get to the bottom of it. I know that he'll make it right.

Please let us know what happens.

Yvonne

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#93299 - 04/22/01 04:04 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
gatorlaw Offline
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Registered: 11/01/99
Posts: 10312
Jenny - I ordered Legend 1 and 2 on the 15th also. They also charged it on my CC. I got the same mail about the delay due to unexpected heavy demand.

I did receive a more recent mail on April 4th that said my games had shipped on 3/26. I am really starting to doubt this as no games have arrived. I ordered Comer from Hong Kong and it was here in 2 or 3 weeks tops.

I really love their products - but am chalking this one up to total inexperience with shipping and orders of product. I had been thinking about this all week. I am sending another e-mail tomorrow re: the no delivery (4 weeks now) since the supposed ship date and to get a status report for all here as to what the @#!% is going on. Whew - feel better.

I'll post as soon as I hear anything.

Laura
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#93300 - 04/22/01 04:34 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
Space Quest Fan Offline
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Registered: 02/17/01
Posts: 9716
Loc: Columbus,Ohio USA
Thanks Jenny and Laura. I think I will wait to order until I hear how your orders come out. I sure wish someone in the states was selling the DVD version.

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#93301 - 04/22/01 04:44 PM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
Marian Offline
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Registered: 07/04/00
Posts: 21263
Loc: near Yosemite in California
I was told that the two "sequels" to Pilgrim are going to be released here in the States later on this year by Dreamcatcher, so for those of you who are willing to wait (waiting is not in our vocabulary, I know! ), I believe there will be another way to obtain them in a few months.

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#93302 - 04/24/01 08:46 AM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
Arxel_Stephen Offline
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Registered: 04/17/01
Posts: 25
Loc: Paris France
Hello to everyone,

Oups, I missed a few days.

To Laura and others discussing the meaning of the ending in Faust and the motivations of Mephisto, I'll come back to you later with a detailed answer (but I don't have much more to say than what Laura already said ;-)...

GENERALLY ABOUT OUR ONLINE SHOP AND THE PROBLEMS YOU ARE EXPERIENCING :

Let me apologize again in the name of the company. I can't give you more than: an explanation/a promise/an apology.

The reason for the delay is simply that we opened the shop and received orders exceeding by far our most optimistic expectations which led us to order re-prints in GB language for some products. I was assured that the remaining missing copies would be shipped at the latest next week. As you can imagine, this whole story came at the same time as a very good surprise and a terrible one since we ended up generating frustration and (justified) resentment.

A promise : I don't have the detail of all operations but they told me all left orders would be shipped next week. This is just for reassurance, the promise being "it will never happen again". I am well aware that most of the resentment comes from the "billed but not sent" factor. We are working on that too. Be sure that your order is secured and that no one will be wronged at the end.

An apology : let me restate it, we are utterly sorry for this inconvenience.

I am not going to disappear from this site so you can depend on me personally to transmit your "discontentment" and answer your questions.

Regards to all,

Stephen

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#93303 - 04/24/01 10:39 AM Re: FAUST, chat with Arxel
gatorlaw Offline
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Registered: 11/01/99
Posts: 10312
Stephen your attention to all of us Boomers is wonderful and appreciated.

I really thank you for the update on the Arxel shop and late orders. I have to admit I was getting a wee bit nervous myself. I also understand this is not your responsibility or area at Arxel - so it was great of you to take the time to track this info down. I guess this is the kind of problem (swamped with orders) that sounds great but can actually be a big headache til production is sped up to meet the unexpected demand.

Looking forward to more of your delightful posts

Laura

[This message has been edited by gatorlaw (edited 04-24-2001).]
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