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2002 The return of the Twisted List #94586
06/09/02 05:28 PM
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Hi all,
Taking Syd's word that real GBers never get tired of lists, here is this years thread.
For those who haven't been here before, the aim is to provide a list of adventure game recommendations from the collected wisdom of us all. It is intended to help those of us who haven't played every game ever made decide what to play next. Lasts years results, with links to walkthroughs and reviews, can be found above in the links menu.
The key is to list games that you would recommend to others to play in this day and age. Your all time favourite game that can only be played on a Commodore 64 should not therefore be included.
There are rules, but there are no prizes wink

1. You can recommend a maximum of 15 games. You can choose to recommend less.
2. You cannot recommend a series. If you want to recommend all the Tex Murphy games, that will take 5 seperate recommendations, one for each game.
3. Myst and RealMyst will be counted as one game.

4. (This rule has been added as a result of the following posts). In addition to the 15 you may then add 3 non-adventure games.

We keep the thread open for three weeks, and I will post intermittent updates and pithy insights.
So here are my 15.

Riven
The Longest Journey
GK2: The Beast Within
Myst III: Exile
Morpheus
Byzantine
Zork Nemesis
Faust
Blackstone Chronicles
Zork Grand Inquisitor
Dracula: The Last Sanctuary
The Dark Eye
The Neverhood
Black Dahlia
Isabelle

Here are my 3 non-adventures:

Outcast
Twinsuns Odyssey
Thief

Have fun smile

flotsam


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94587
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Hey Flotsam! Can this list include action games, too? wave


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94588
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If action games are going to be allowed, then so should RPG's.


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94589
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Hi Flotsam!

I bet the answer is NO! but I'd like it to be yes.

TLJ
Dracula Resurrection
Myst Exile
Nightlong
Zork GI
Nancy Drew: Haunted Mansion
Shivers 2
Seven Games for the Soul (Faust)
Grim Fandango
The Curse of MI
Inherent Evil
Broken Sword: Smoking mirror

Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94590
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I'm going to throw my vote in on the side of allowing any type of game to be listed. Adventure gamers aren't the only ones who read and post at GameBoomers so everyone should be able to list their favorite games no matter what genre they are.

[syd hurries and hides in her closet before flotsam reads what she said and starts throwing empty cd cases at her]


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94591
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I agree with Syd, Adventure games are not my only
passion, I enjoy action adventure and once in a while an RPG. laugh wave


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94592
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I think action/adventures should have their own Twisted List.

I think RPG's should have their own Twisted List.

Otherwise you'd need a lot more than a 15 game maximum.

Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94593
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Hi Folks

It's Rosemary and Gordon here jumping to the defence of adventure games again laugh

What! the adventure twisty list including action and rpgs? This would cause a divorce in this household because I love rpgs and Gordon wouldn't want to put them in our list!

Seriously, it's a good idea but doesn't the action/rpg twisty list belong on the action/rpg forum? Why not have two lists, one on each forum? This is the adventure discussion board and the adventure twisty list is an institution now, what a shame to change it because adventures deserve a list of their own. laugh

Our adventure list coming soon ...

Rosemary


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94594
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Hi all,
Trust Syd to make things complicated <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />
The list was originally constructed to be for adventure games, as this site is predominantly about adventure games. So we wikll keep it that way.
But in deference to the large number of adventure game players that are prepared to come out of the dark and admit they do sometimes stray and play something else, and as I make the rules rolleyes you will be allowed to list 3 non-adventure games AFTER your 15 adventure recommendations. I stress after so that I can keep the lists straight. And 3 is only a few I know but it needs to be manageable.
And no debate will be entered into as to what is and isn't an adventure, so don't even dare to try <img border="0" alt="pacify" title="" src="graemlins/pacify.gif" />
Seriously though, I trust the amended rules will cater for everyone, whilst maintaining the original purpose of the list.
I have ammended the rules above and added my games.

flotsam


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94595
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Just so you don't think I'm trying to sneak one past you, would you consider the Quest for Glorys hybrids or RPGs rather than adventures?


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94596
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Here's my list. I had a really hard time placing them in any kind of order. #1 and #2 are really tied for first place, and #3 to #10 are tied for second place.

1) Myst 2 : Riven
2) Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within
3) Shivers 1
4) Shivers 2: Harvest of Souls
5) Myst 1
6) Lighthouse
7) Schizm
8) Myst 3: Exile
9) Phantasmagoria 1
10)Tex Murphy: Overseer

I also enjoyed 11) Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned, although I never finished this game being unable to beat the demon at the end. Also 12) Dracula Resurrection, 13) Dracula: The Last Sanctuary
Two other great games were 14) Beyond Atlantis and 15) Atlantis

I still have Beyond Atlantis 2 sitting on my shelf because I can't get it to play on my curent machine. I'm looking forward to Watchmaker and Syberia, but these don't count yet.

Row smile

Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94597
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Here Goes my list in no order.

1) Amber Journey's Beyound
2) GK 1: Sin's Of The Father
3) GK 2: The Beast Within
4) Dracula The Last Sanctuary
5) Blackstone Chronicles
6) Sanitaium
7) Black Dahlia
8) The Forgotten
9) Phantasmagoria
10) Phantasmagoria 2 A Puzzle Of Flesh
11) Tex Murphy: Under A Killing Moon
12) Tex Murphy: The Pandora Directive
13) Tex Murphy: Overseer
14) Faust
15) Realms of the Haunting

Here is my non adventure one's I call them non adventure one's as I was made to go to the RPG forum for help.
1.) Clive Barker's Undying
2.) American McGee's Alice
3.) Baulder's Gate
Josie smile

Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94598
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Flotsam,

ONly 3 non adventure games. You have got to be kidding. How in the world could I only pick 3.

Now what about action adventure games. Last year on the list were gmaes like Outcast and ROTH. So are those not allowed anymore in the top 15 then?


Zanthia
Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94599
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Hello again,
I know 3 isn't a lot Zanthia but I was simply trying to make room for everyone, whilst at the same time sticking to the original intention of creating an adventure game list.
You are right that some hybrid games got on the list last year and I expect they will again. Not everyone has the same idea about what constitutes an adventure game. Everyone will construct their list according to their own definitions. The result will be an eclectic mix of tastes and opinions.

flotsam


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94600
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Hi ya', Flotsam. smile smile smile

Can't wait to see the results of this year's effort on your part! Much appreciated! laugh

Since this is the Adventure Discussion forum, the weight being on Adventure games seems entirely appropriate! Mayhaps another Boomer would like to develop a Twisty List for RPG/Action and Other at some point in time? wink

Love, Witchen =O) smile

Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94601
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Hey, FLOTSAM, what happened to SCHIZM? I seem to recall that it was #7 on your list last year. laugh


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94602
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Advpuzlov, I just had to find room for Isabelle. You will notice Ring has gone too, which remains one of my favourites but would I recommend it to others to play over some other games??
Schizm is in the same boat - one of my all time best games but I was looking to balance my list a bit so something had to give.
BTW, Ring went to accomodate Black Dahlia so you should be pleased laugh


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This was a very difficult task, but I finally got my list down to only 15 (in no particular order):

1. The Neverhood
2. Grim Fandango
3. Curse of Monkey Island
4. Escape From Monkey Island
5. The Longest Journey
6. Nancy Drew: Final Scene
7. Nancy Drew: Message In A Haunted Mansion
8. Faust
9. Phantasmagoria
10. Morpheus
11. Sanitarium
12. Tex Murphy: Overseer
13. Last Express
14. Clandestiny
15. Discworld Noir

And for my 3 non-adventures:

1. Theme Hospital
2. Midtown Madness
3. Last Call

wave

Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94604
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Here's my list wave :
1. Shivers
2. Black Dahlia
3. Blue Ice
4. Celtica
5. ROTS
6. Temujin
7. Gabriel Knight 1
8. Gabriel Knight 2
9. TLJ
10. MOTD
11. Faust
12. Zork Nemesis
13. Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
14. Quest for Glory lV
15. Amerzone

and the non-adventures: Ceremony of Innocence, Night Cafe and TLC. wave wave wave


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Is it already that time again!? lol

Here's my list;

1. Faust - seven games of the soul
2. Blackstone Chronicles
3. Riven
4. Gabriel Knight 2
5. Morpheus
6. Zork Nemesis
7. Black Out (danish game)
8. Amber - Journeys beyond
9. Obsidian
10. Myst
11. Timelapse
12. Lighthouse
13. GK3
14. Exile
15. Schizm

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I like to post my list:

1) Beyond Time
2) Timelapse
3) Riddle of the Sphinx
4) Exile (Myst III)
5) Zork - Grand Inquisitor
6) Legacy of Time (Journeyman Project III)
7) Myst
8) Riven
9) Xiama
10) Nacah
11) Neverhood
12) The crystal key
13) Comer
14) Sanitarium
15) Celtica

Non Adventures:
1) Outlaws
2) Sims
3) Anno 1602

Sylvia

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Hi Flotsam,

Here is our list in alphabetical order:

Black Dahlia
Blue Ice
Broken Sword 1
Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
Curse of Monkey Island
Day of the Tentacle
Discworld 1
Dracula Resurrection
Gabriel Knight 2
The Longest Journey
Pandora Directive
Return to Zork
Riven
Shivers 1
Simon the Sorcerer 1

Non-Adventure:
Might and Magic VI
Baldur's Gate II
Wizardry 8

The last three are Rosemary's alone, I had no say in the matter. laugh

Cheers

Gordon


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1) Riddle of Master LU
2) Myst
3) GK2
4) Day of the Tentacle
5) Full throttle
6) Curse of monkey Island
7) TLJ
8) Obsidian
9) Zork GI
10) Frederick Pohl's Gateway
11) Kings Quest 1
12) Broken Sword 1
13) Timelapse
14) The Last Express
15) The Neverhood

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Twisty List in NO particular order

1. Neverhood
2. Zork GI
3. Cassandra Galleries
4. Tex Murphy - Pandora Directive
5. Grim Fandango
6. Faust
7. Paris 1313 (if only for the wall climb puzzle)
8. Loom
9. Shivers
10. Nightlong
11. The Longest Journey
12. Sanitarium
13. Arthur's Knights - Tales of Chivalry
14. Dracula - Last Sanctuary
15. Sherlock Homes - Rose Tattoo

Other twists: (pathetic but I usually stick to Adventures)
1. The Sims Livin Large
2. King's Quest Mask of Eternity
3. Redguard - only cause I'm playing it now.

laugh Love, Jen laugh


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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List #94610
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Eek, I'm always nervous at doing these, the fear is that I change my mind a week later and beat myself up. Oh well. Here goes...

1 : Zork Nemesis wave
2 : Riven
3 : Amber : Journeys Beyond
4 : The X-Files
5 : Titanic : Adventure out of Time
6 : Blackstone Chronicles
7 : Morpheus
8 : Timelapse
9 : Real Myst
10 : Obsidian
11 : Dracula : resurection
12 : Frankenstein
13 : Black Dahlia
14 : Lighthouse
15 : Reah

Phew, that wasn't as bad as I thought! My 3 action/'non traditional adventure' games would be :

1 : Jedi Knight : Outcast wave
2 : Thief : The Metal Age
3 : Half Life : Opposing Force

Jonathan


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