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The Samaritan Paradox #951032
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Okay, Richard, here I be.
Question: have you fiddled with the horse yet?

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Yes I have I put it on the pedestal and turned it but which way do I turn it.
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Try putting the compass on the horse.

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Will do Gil never thought of that. Which way should the horse be north,south east or west.Thanks
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Richard,

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It all depends on whether or not you've talked to Signe, Jonatan's wife. Put the record from the room behind the fireplace on the phonograph to wake her up. Talk to her completely. Then show her the horse. She'll repeat a poem about the horse that gives you directions on what to do.


Now, you can help me if I'm still hanging around in #3 once you get there. grin

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Gil there are four directions in the poem will try them all.
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Do it as if you're opening a safe, Richard, first one direction then another.

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Gil I don't know how you did it. I've been trying so hard but no luck. Would you send me a step by step on how you did it. Sure would appreciate it. Thanks
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Hang on, Richard, I have an earlier save so I'll go back and see just what I did.
Be back soon!

Okay, here's what you do.
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Take the horse off the pedestal and the mechanism will reset.
Put it on again.
Turn the horse Clockwise to the South.
Turn it Counterclockwise to the East.
Turn it Clockwise to the West.
Turn it Counterclockwise to the North.
Try to pick it up and Ord will say he doesn't have to mess with it anymore.

Take it from there or do this if you want to.

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Look above the pedestal.
You'll see now that a painting used to hang there.
Go ask Veronika about it.
Go telephone Sara.
She'll tell you where the missing painting is.

Now you're in just the right place to get stuck with me. grin


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Thanks Gil I'm at the art gallery now. Haven't done anything yet. Just saved it. Gil where about are you now. reading the book from the gallery. trying to climb the cliff
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Hey, Richard,

I'm right behind you but not likely to play any more tonight.
I've got
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the ring, the flask, the shield and dagger and a rope with a lump of resin from the tree stuck to it so far.

That lighthouse isn't being cooperative. lol
Anyway, don't run off and leave me at the bottom of this cliff!

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Gil did you get the moss and polish the shield? Did you look at the clouds on the light house. I've got the other things. How do I add a spoiler to the tex.
Looking for a bowl. I light a fire in the light house. Fighting a duel with the dragon.
Richard

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Whahoo!
Where did you find a dragon?

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Yep, I polished the shield and promptly lost it by using it on the lighthouse to start that fire. So, I get the idea I have to produce three puffs of smoke, right? To get that dragon?


To add a spoiler, you have to be on the Reply or Quote screen. The thing that looks like a megaphone up at the top will insert spoiler tags if you click on it once you highlight the text you want to hide.

If you forget to use Reply or Quote, you can always hit Switch to Full Reply Screen after you've finished typing, the way I did here. grin Man, you'd think I would remember that.

Gil.


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You have to put the polished shield on the fence to start the fire. We have to get to the top of the cliff to find the third well.

I haven't figured out how to get to the top of the cliff.
Richard

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Hey, there you are!
I started the fire.
Now my problem is producing smoke, I think.

I haven't worked my brain this hard since GK1.
When it gets to be too much I go and clobber some orcs in Divine Divinity before I come back and think about it again. crazy
Love those orcs; this is my 2 zillionth playthrough of that. grin (Slight exaggeration but not by much.)

Congratulations on hiding that text!
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So...mortal feet can't climb that cliff.
Maybe that means you have to ride the dragon you found?


Gil.

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You have to put the shred of sail on the fire

Gil you have to defeat the dragon.
Richard

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Have you tried anything yet?
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I decided to pour water from Freja's flask into the bowl since the dragon might be able to tell if it was water from one of the wells but now what?
I'm waiting but night doesn't seem to want to fall.


Gil.


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I still can't defeat the dragon. I given two bowls of water but nothing worked. Something to do with the third well on top of the cliff. I think we have to get up there.


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Hello woundered if one of you could help stuck in the art gallery .Found the saw but he says it will make to much noise .Could you please help ta


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Use the chainsaw on the picture behind the sleeping man. When he snores use the saw that way nobody will hear the noise
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Oh, boy.
IMO, the only way we're going to get to the top of the cliff is to ride the dragon
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The trouble is, she has to be poisoned unless we're okay with being eaten.
She will carry us up to her nest if we're dead!
There must be some way to make her think Freja is dead and carry her home before eating her for lunch.
My first thought was to start over and drink from the flask in Freja's pocket immediately after being given the dragon's bowl of poisoned water since we know the water in the flask is pure.
But there's no time to do it!

Gotta tax my brain again.

Aargh.


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Thanks for that stuck geting the paper out now lol


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The item you need is in the secretaire in Signe's room, as I recall.

Good luck!
Come join us on the beach with that pesky dragon.
grin

Gil.


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try my best lolAll he says is he dos nt want to search it without a reason got them

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Well, it's not actually "in" the secretaire, as I just saw when I replayed to that point.
Look on top.
It's a small greyish white line.
Welcome to the world of pixel hunting! lol

Gil.


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Still working on him dragonuk44. He's a tought nut to crack.
Richard

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Ive emptied my flask into the bowel but I need a way to kill him befor he eats me


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WOW! This game is really "taking off", fellow Boomers. I'm playing the DEMO, but I'm afraid that I'm going to need a walkthrough. If a wt becomes available, I will definitely purchase the FULL version. Meanwhile I'm still "trudging along" at the beginning. HAPPY GAMING!
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I think we all need a WT Sandy. It's a hard game I think. I like it though.
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I noticed that the DEMO does NOT allow loading of games once you have "quit" it. I'll just have to start over again, "Life is full of obstacles." LOL
Sandy

WELL, I 'bit the bullet" and purchased the game from GOG. When I played the DEMO, I was able somehow to get TO the "code" puzzle (at the start of the game), but I don't remember how I did it, so I'm "stuck" here. How do you get to that CODE INTERFACE in order to do the puzzle? I saved the part just after solving that puzzle in the DEMO, but those saves are NOT compatible with the FULL version (You get an error message when trying to LOAD those saves that I made in the DEMO.) Sure could use a WT right about now.
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Look at the book.
Notice the ISBN code is odd and may be some other kind of code.
Look at the newspaper if you haven't already.
Ord makes a comment.
Go to your bookshelf and choose the book on Chemistry.

Gil.


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Not me.
There is a few seconds pause after the dragon speaks to Freja.
It may mean something but I haven't figured out what if it does.

Gil.


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I'm still in the running trying to defeated the dragon. Haven't figured out how.
There isn't nothing I haven't tried. If you figured it out Gil just let me know. I've looked all over for a WT but no luck.

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Gil I found this in the web (sounds like a bug maybe. You have to drink the 2nd well water right before you exchange, then she takes you away, she drinks the clear water, then she goes and drinks the 3rd well water, and it kills her
Richard

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It worked.
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To be clear, you empty your flask into the bowl.
Fill the flask from the second well.
Drink from the flask right before giving the bowl to the dragon.
There's those few seconds accounted for.


I see why it killed Semita but I'm still not sure about...well, maybe I'll figure out how Freja survives later.
Edit: Dumb me.
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Freja survived because she drank poisoned water from the 2nd well and the dragon gave her water from the 3rd, which was higher up.


Gil.


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Gil I'm in the dragons cave. Picked up some inventory items. Semita is dead I think.

I made it out of the dragon cave. I could tell you how I did it but it was really easy and don't want to spoil it for you. I'm at the island of Fardo now.
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Thanks, Dragon and Gil. The CHEMISTRY BOOK is the thing that I forgot about. My memory AIN'T what it used to be. LOL
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Thanks for the clues, fellow Boomers. I'm now in DAY 2(at the "estate" and standing next to the pedestal with "4 holes".

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Just wondering if anybody has gone to the cabin. Really stuck.
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Hey, Richard,

Long day at work, just getting back to it.
Okay, I'm sure the chess puzzle has to do with something Ord mentioned before about placing 8 Queens so none of them threaten one another.
Oh, boy, and me an ignoramus when it comes to chess - but can't a Queen move in any direction?
Maybe it's one place at a time.
I'll have to look it up.
Maybe they can be jammed up against one another so they can't move; i.e., 8 queens straight across.
Haven't tried it yet.
Maybe the King can be moved if you get the queens placed correctly.
Could the chest key be under him?

What you see through the telescope must relate to the poem.
The ancient hero is probably Hercules.
You see images of the constellations derived from the labors of Hercules, I think, in the Diary.
"All but one have gone asunder."
Well, I suppose that means only one is complete and will offer the clue to the numbers on the chest's lock.
That image on the lock looks like a harpy to me.

"Wandering from sea to sea" may have to do with what you see when you click on Chapter One
Click to reveal..
and it repeats Freja's
ride across the sky and you see the young dragon go back to the cliff.


I hope you crack it because I doubt I'll have an answer soon! lol

Half a sec later: Ord saw that problem about the queens when he was taking a random book down from the shelf in the library.


Gil.

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the 2 numbers on the chest I think have some thing to do with the teliscope when you get the correct sign .Be later tonight when I get back to it .

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The correct sign is harpy 4 and 8 on the telescope. That's as far as I got. Don't know anything about chess.
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I don't either, Richard, but if we need it here is a site that explains the rules.

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Makes sense, dragon.
I'm probably over-thinking this.
Have you tried it?

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Gil I got the chess figured out and you get the chest key.
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Look at harpy and put the chess on the right spot. Use the key and I think you have to put the numbers 7 and 8. Than you can take a nap.

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Hi, Richard,
Yes! Dragon was right.
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I got it open with 4 and 8.

Go back to sleep?
I'd love to! lol

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So am I dragonuk44,just went to the church and looked around. Haven't done much yet.
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I'm stuck trying to get into the bunker
Click to reveal..
i know i have to use the cane on the sundial and that the calender is the clue, just dont know how to decicher it...

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Jaap,where did you find the cane.
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I'm scheduled for a meeting with the priest but I'll be darned if I can find a cane!

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You get the cane after you solve the puzzle in the church (and take the pictures, and give it to journalist).
Asking about the meeting with the priest can be used as a decoy to obtain an item from his office...

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I took the key and opened the panel and put the key back. Rang the bells and got the priest mad now what do I do. What pictures do I take?
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ok put cooler fan in the candle effort lol but he wont turn it on .Got the book on latin can some one tell me what I am missing ta


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Click to reveal..
Did you use the faxed letter on the big modern bible
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thanks Kjos never thought of that .Wont do it as priest still in the room .try with the fan again .Sorry got it wrong yes it worked

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got the appointment and the key .Thanks


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ok the bells are driving me nuts .rang the bells .Hid behind door sneaked in .You get about 3 secs to do what ever . Thought you may have to unlock the back door no . What do I do . ta


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dragonuk44,
Click to reveal..
Did you put the key back before you rang the bells

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Click to reveal..
when the priest walks by, you have to plug the fan.

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Thanks Jaap.
I'm in the priest room what do I do in there.
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still stuck at the bunker :(
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I do think I know what type of solution is required: the calender describes the 7 world wonders, the 4 horsemen, the 12 labors of hercules and the 7 seas, although it's still pretty vague. I thought i should rotate the cane from 7 to 4 to 12 to 7, each time waiting for a click, but this doesn't work. Also the numbers could be off: only 1 wonder is left these days, but should I use 6 or 1 here? Also there are way more than 7 seas, but only 5 oceans. The exact number is critical :( Also, what exactly is the way to rotate the cane? But: fun puzzle!!

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Did you make him rearrange the papers? Then get some proof of his book + pretend to be a priest wink

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Jaap,

Click to reveal..
Unless I misunderstood you, you probably move from number to number, skipping the ones you don't want, by not waiting for the click.
I think you're right about 7 being the first number. It would be easy enough to switch that to 1 if we had the last number but that clue is really cryptic.
Missing no note?
Losing no key?
Sounds musical.


Gil.


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thank you Jaap.Yes I put the key back .Try turn the fan on again lol


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Jaap,

Click to reveal..
Unless I misunderstood you, you probably move from number to number, skipping the ones you don't want, by not waiting for the click.
I think you're right about 7 being the first number. It would be easy enough to switch that to 1 if we had the last number but that clue is really cryptic.
Missing no note?
Losing no key?
Sounds musical.


Gil.


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maybe sea to sea is C to C, hence 8 (octave) or 12 (including sharps). Let's try smile

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Jaap,

You're brilliant!

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Got into the bunker using these numbers
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7-4-12-8 in that order.
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It's great to see this group effort. Thanks, guys, for all of the help you are giving to one another. bravo

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How come your not playing to Marian. Really a good but awful hard.
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nice one.Stuck in the cell now lolstone on the bird got him to eat but then Jailer comes in and I have to start again

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I just realized all the clues for the bunker were randomly available as books in the library... Anyway, I'm glad I did figure it out though wink

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the cell bit is very specific about were you're standing in the end, silly controls ...

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Originally Posted By: kjos
How come your not playing to Marian. Really a good but awful hard.
Richard


No time right now, Richard. But I am definitely interested in playing it at some point. thumbsup

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I think you have to hide in the lower right of the screen, so that the door opens and she stands behind it while the guard walks in.

You will knock the jailer out.
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Click to reveal..
The only way I got out was by standing in the crack between the door and the wall and it took me at least a dozen tries.


Btw, is every game I play from now on going to have a goat in it? grin

How are you doing on the lock?
Only one of the puzzles makes any sense to me as I'm trying to match them up with the lock.

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Gil do you know how to open the large gate leading to the mountain. thanks
Frega is trying to open the gate.

Click to reveal..
I put in coffin candle bed a secret. didn't work
Richard

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Richard,

"If I am yours, you must keep me; give me away and I will die."
Could that be 'heart' instead of 'coffin'?

'Bed' and 'candle' look right, depending on which candle you choose.
I suppose the one that's no longer lit, though the burning candle is on a holder with a handle for carrying.

Could the fourth one be 'key'?

Gil.
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Stumped again.
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Anyone had any luck getting a smell for the old sack?

Was that worth a spoiler?
grin

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chimmney next to the nets
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round root and sulpher

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Dragon,
I'm in the bunker.
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I've turned the fan around and put the old sack in the compartment.
Now I'm trying to figure out how to stink the guy out of his hole.


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sorry thought you were in the story part .Theres a stinky bit in that to .Soz doing the story bit lol.Like getting 2 stories in one game lol.There is a forum on steam about this game to

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I know.
Freja seems to be giving directions to Ord. <g>

Problem is, the only thing remotely like a pet (goat) for milking I've seen is Herbert the tree.
Lot of help he is.

Gil.

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traveler have you taken a closer look at the fan


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I can't anymore, not since I turned it around.
Can I?
Off to work, darn it.
I'll see when I get back.

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if youve turned around then its ok .Im locked in the room now .SStuck in both sstoriess lol There is info on steam about this bit but still cant get the code for the door .Got code but the guard wont let me through .Need some items
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put sulpher on the smoker .
Stuck now

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I decided to give this game a go and it certainly works the brain cells !! yes

I'm in Fardo Church (and had to sometimes peak at this thread to even get me THIS far) but now I'm definitely stuck eek

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I've got the fan in place, opened the "bells" panel and returned the key to the Priest.
[I have two save points here - one with the fan unplugged and one with it plugged in.]
And I can (usually crazy ) make it to the bookcase door in time to hide.

But when the noise of the ringing bells brings the Priest out, I can never sneak into the Sacristy without him seeing me, even going from the save with the fan already plugged in headscratch



Can anyone help me out, please ??
I do like the game but this part is driving me mad laugh


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think you have to go into the conffession booth


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Yes. I tried to get in that way as well .... but ....

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haven't found a way to change the red light to a green one so the door will open



I'm probably being very brainless blush


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have you got your conffesion off Stig if so you should be able to get through that door


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Mad,
You just have to keep trying. As soon as the priest comes out and heads for the bell panel, zip out from behind the bookcase door and plug in the fan.
(I assume you have the cord pulled out of the plug-in next to the door, not the extension.)
Then head through the door.

You think this is a pain?
Wait until you run into the plate & bird! Lol!

I think dragon is talking about a different door inside the priest's quarters but I may be wrong since I'm not all that familiar with church terms.
There is another door next to the confession booth that has a red/green button panel beside it.
All you have to do to get that door to open is change the light to green.
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When you do, Stig will come in and confess.


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Dragon,

Click to reveal..
Did you talk to the young twit Jonor?
Did you talk to the Innkeeper about the milk of Capricornus?
Did you color the milk before you put the brimstone on the smoker?


Gil.


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Heeelllpp!
Where is something that 'smells'?

Going nuts here,
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So. I go from my save where the fan is NOT plugged in.
[Which I must have tried 20 times already !!]
But at least I know I AM trying to do the right thing ....

The only "red/green light" door I've seen is in the Church Hall (next door, where Stig is sitting) and not in the Church itself but I haven't been able to change the light from red to green on it OR talk to Stig.
[All I've been able to do with Stig so far is give him a book - after removing the bookmark from it.]

Thanks to both of you grin and if I do ever get past this sticking point I'm sure I'll back here again in no time requesting more help from you !! lol


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Originally Posted By: Mad
So. I go from my save where the fan is NOT plugged in.
[Which I must have tried 20 times already !!]


Right. When the priest starts off to the right, you want to be as close as you can get to the door without going through it, right next to the plug-in. Then quickly plug the fan in.
When I tried it again, going directly to the plug-in didn't work...which may just be something that only happens to me since I had lots of trouble just getting Ord to stand behind the bookcase door. grin

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The only "red/green light" door I've seen is in the Church Hall (next door, where Stig is sitting) and not in the Church itself but I haven't been able to change the light from red to green on it OR talk to Stig.
[All I've been able to do with Stig so far is give him a book - after removing the bookmark from it.]


If you right click on that red/green light, Ord will say something about it's only working from one side.
In this case, the inside.
The priest pushes the button to let someone in to hear his confession.
So, you have to get into his quarters before you can open that door.
Click to reveal..
Stig isn't going to talk to you.
You have to pretend to be the priest.


Hurry up, Mad! I need some help stinking this guy out of the bunker. hardwall

Gil.
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Just came back to say .... YAHOO !!
Got into the Sacristy at last and did the dirty deed. AND also got to listen to Stig confess dance
[Yes. I, too, had difficulty getting Ord to hide behind that bookcase door.]

I have also met with an "Activist" in a pub - but couldn't treat myself to a well deserved drink whilst I was in there because there wasn't a barman in sight !! rolleyes

Click to reveal..
Am now about to try out a cane on a sun dial - on top of a bunker - and hope I'm on the right track rolleyes


Rest assured, if I DO ever catch you up (which I seriously doubt) I'll see if I can offer you some assistance yes


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You aren't very far behind us now, Mad, so get a move on, will ya?
I'm getting a Grade A headache here from banging my head on this bunker.
grin

Click to reveal..
Well, I found some coins in a sofa at the bar on Iron Street.
Sat on it, there they were, so I used one in the jukebox (actually on the rocker) and put another in the fountain outside.
I now have one and no CLUE what to do with it.

Oh, and I found a hole above the old sack I stuffed in next to the compartment where the fan goes.
The hole evidently needs to be filled with something, I presume a smelly something.

Goody.
WHAT?

Gil.


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if you mean as the girl
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colour milk brown with the veg at the cottage and the brimestone on the smoker .Then put milk on
traveler.As boy
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mace sack and put fan on and switch on


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yes got to the end lolof that chapter .Stuck in the bunker where the crates are now seems like I have to hide


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think I have to move the weopen can anyone help please crazygot the weapen hooked .Got hide it then myself.Moved weapon over the skip drops off and I get caught lol

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I'm in the bunker how do I get in the door on the right side of the bunker. I have to put some numbers in the key pad. Where do I find them. There is a lot of funny writing on the wall. I can get out of the bunker using the ladder but no where to go. Thanks
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I think you got out of the bunker, dragon.
What weapon?
What is a "skip"?
Dumb me, that was a typo, should have been "ship", right?
The ship is certainly big enough so you must be using the crane.
We're not there yet!

Richard, you have to use those signs to get the numbers on the numberpad.
Read Chapter 2 again.

I went back to the bar and the rocker is gone so I can use the jukebox.
Put the coin in and was given a selection of songs.
There's one called Rescue Me and another called Lock It Away.
I've listened to those two but don't have time to think about it or listen to more of them.
A clue in one of those maybe?

Gil.

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I got into the bunker but couldn't do much - and now am reading Chapter Two of "the book".

[This game isn't getting any easier !! snicker


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Mad when you are reading chapter 2 where do you go. I have to play all of chapter 2 to get the botton panel. WOW.
I'm stuck in the bunker and can't get out. All the doors are locked.


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Richard,

How did you get stuck in the bunker?
Are you saying you can't get out by going up the ladder?

Gil.


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I put the rag in the hole on the vent and added mace. Put the fan back in and all the door locked. Than I red the # 2 book
richard

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Where did you get the mace?
I've looked all over that blinkety game for something that smells!

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Click to reveal..
In the first room in the drawer.

In the desk

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Did I forget something?
Click to reveal..
I put the sack and the mace in the vent, put the fan back,and turned it on...and nothing happened. Was there something else I was supposed to do??

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Click to reveal..
Did you put the rag in the HOLE and put the mace on the rag.


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I've forgotten if the game makes you do it automatically, JonVox, but
Click to reveal..
did you cross wire the cables on the fan?

Take it out again if not and right click on the fan in inventory.
Maybe that's the hangup.

Richard,

Did you click on the book icon in Ord's panel and go read the book on the stand?
Click to reveal..
It tells you how to decode the signs on the wall.
They are the numbers for unlocking the number pad.


Thanks for the mace!
Do you know how many times I skipped over that drawer?
Aargh!

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Originally Posted By: kjos
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Did you put the rag in the HOLE and put the mace on the rag.


I think so...if I try to click on them again, it says I should leave the sack alone and the mace is fine where it is.

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Originally Posted By: traveler
I've forgotten if the game makes you do it automatically, JonVox, but
Click to reveal..
did you cross wire the cables on the fan?

Take it out again if not and right click on the fan in inventory.
Maybe that's the hangup.


That was it! Never even thought to check the fan...grrr

Thanks for the help guys! I'm actually a voice actor in this game and trying it out. Ha! It's a real brain workout sometimes. razz

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I got the door open in the bunker and went to the warehouse. Playing with the crane.


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Have we heard you yet, JonVox?
I think the voice acting so far is really good.
Yeah, I know what it's like to miss something; I do it often enough.
grin

So, I'm through the door.
Click to reveal..
I've figured out what to do with the weapon part but I don't know where to hide Ord yet.

Rocking along!

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Have we heard you yet, JonVox?
I think the voice acting so far is really good.
Yeah, I know what it's like to miss something; I do it often enough.
grin

So, I'm through the door.
Click to reveal..
I've figured out what to do with the weapon part but I don't know where to hide Ord yet.

Rocking along!

Gil.


Actually I'm the first thing you hear! I was the news anchor in the very beginning. I'm also Jonatan, Jorgen, Mimir, Surt, and Torgav...

And I'm in the exact spot you are!! Trying to find where to hide...

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welcome to GameBoomers, JonVox. Glad you decided to join us here. smile

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What, you're not Veronika, Sara, Freja and the Activist, too? Lol!
You're very talented, JonVox.
Great job!

Here's an observation that may save you a little trouble.
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No matter how fast I am, and that's not fast thanks to the crane controls, I can't get the weapon part hidden without the bad guys popping in right afterward.
I think we may need to stop that port door from opening right away.
Ord says something about it being remote controlled.


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Where did you put the weapon part JonVox. Thanks
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Richard,

Click to reveal..
Go to the crane controls if you haven't already and lift the weapon part out of the crate.
If you can't seem to get it hooked and out, stop, right click on the hook, and Ord will tell you how many clicks to make right or left, up or down.
When you get it placed after that, run it into the girder.

That's where the weapon part has to be hidden.

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Originally Posted By: traveler
Richard,

Click to reveal..
Go to the crane controls if you haven't already and lift the weapon part out of the crate.
If you can't seem to get it hooked and out, stop, right click on the hook, and Ord will tell you how many clicks to make right or left, up or down.
When you get it placed after that, run it into the girder.

That's where the weapon part has to be hidden.

Gil.


If I do that, it falls and makes a noise and a guy shows up before I can hide...

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Yeah, I know.
That's why I think (see my answer to you a couple of posts above) we have to prevent that door they come through from opening right away, i.e., we have to fix the door before we hide the weapon part.
Could be wrong.

Dragon?
Do you know?

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I was thinking the same thing about the remote, but I can't find one anywhere...haven't found a use for the roll of tape yet either. Hmmmm...

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I used the tape on the directions controllers you don't have to keep clicking.


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Did using the tape get you there fast enough to avoid being discovered?

You know, I can't help thinking that MaG, the great puzzle solver, is laughing at us. lol

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I did it and hid in the crate. Now I'm on the ship. any ides hoe to get out of the cargo hold.
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Now I'm off the boat and wandering around town, stuck again! Gah!

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Nope.
At the moment, I want to clobber Ord for telling me the same things over and over before the game reloads.

IMO, that business with the tape wasn't fair.
The game doesn't tell you that you can Use Tape on... as it does every other time you want to use something on something.

Grumble,

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JonVox,

Maybe I went to the bar too soon.
Try going there if you don't have the coin(s) already.
Maybe talk to the Activist.

Don't suppose you'd care to give me and kjos a hint on how to get out of that blasted cargo hold, would you?

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Originally Posted By: traveler
JonVox,

Maybe I went to the bar too soon.
Try going there if you don't have the coin(s) already.
Maybe talk to the Activist.

Don't suppose you'd care to give me and kjos a hint on how to get out of that blasted cargo hold, would you?

Gil.


Click to reveal..
Use your tape again on the door before Stigh leaves the cargo room...
I did already have the coins...I've made some progress though. Had an interesting conversation with the Grocery owner. wink

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You are a doll.
My brain seems to be fried right at the moment and it surely appreciates the help.

The grocery owner didn't have anything further to say to me but I had a conversation with Sara, the Activist and Jorgen.
I wonder if there will ever be anything in that mailbox.
I'm going to hang it up now.
Getting late.

Gil.

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Well I've finished it....wowsers. Did NOT see that coming...and I was in the game! lol

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Whew!
After you said that, I had to finish.
No kidding, I really didn't expect that!

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never thought tp block the door dam thanks all for leaving your hints .Cant get to play yet but will .Dont want this game to end lol


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I got out of the cargo hold now what do I do without getting caught.
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Hi smile

This is my first chance back to the computer since my last post - and BOY - you all seem to have forged ahead quite a way in the game !! [You clever bunch lol]

But I'm hoping to make time to play again (later today) and carry on with my big "catch up" lol

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We will wait for you Mad.
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Richard,
Click to reveal..
Go upstairs.
Get behind the door when you hear voices coming from the bridge.
Go in the unlocked cabin.


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got into the cabin got the key and there are passports and money in a suitcase .Tried getting through the port hole is this right


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I've been to the unlocked cabin and got the key from the coat. there is somebody in the bath room. I looked at the suitcase few minutes later I get caught. really stuck. Thanks Gil.


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Richard,

Click to reveal..
Investigate the suitcase thoroughly.
Check for another way out of the cabin.


Dragon,
Yes, you're right but see the spoiler above.

Gil.


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got out thanks 'In the pub now


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I got out to dragonuk44. thanks


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Did you mean the iron square dragonuk44.


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The passport is Patricks .I am stuck need an hint please


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I think I've done everything I can do in the pub. What do I do next.


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have you shown her the passport .Im stuck to lol


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Yes I did.


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looks like we are stuck in the same spot .Going get some tea may be some thing will click lol


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I think it would be a good idea to travel to fardo port and talk to the shop owner. You will get something in your inventory.


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talked to the shop owner not getting any thing must be missing some thing


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He gave me the crossword puzzle to solve. Just keep talking to him he will give it to you.

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will do.He wont give me the crossword lol

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If you don't have any coins.
Click to reveal..
Go to pub and sit on the sofa to get some
Really a hard game.
Richard

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Originally Posted By: dragonuk44
will do.He wont give me the crossword lol


Click to reveal..
Did you ask him about Jonatan's murder?

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not on the list to ask him so I guess I am missing some thing .I have spoke to all


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Just finished the game, loved the game!
Click to reveal..
The ending was a bit weird though, with Sara being molested, now pregnant and also a love interest for Ord

Music was very well done also!

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got it .It was the tape .Chapter 3 now seen the dragon and stuck again lol .In the real world lol in red rock trying get a piece of the lamp to use as a magnafying glass

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Make him open the window with some heat and open the door yourself

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that was so cute lol .Did the radiator and saw him openening and shuting the window but never thought just to open the door myself .Did try the door but must have been when the window was open .Feel so dumb


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Really lost trying to solve the crossword puzzle. Don't know where to go from here.


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the book in the bar
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OK. I'm through the bunker into the warehouse but have been fiddling with the darned crane in there for so long now that I'm getting BAD finger ache !! lol
Click to reveal..

I read your tips about using the tape on the crane controls so that's not my problem.
My problem is getting the weapon at the right height.
Is it supposed to slide "inside" the girder ?? Or sit "on top" of it ??

Either way, so far, no position I've tried with the weapon in relation to the girder (and I've tried zillions) works scared


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right there is a earlier tip on here how to do it so much better than I can lolIf you go through the hints on here you will find it .Got to the end .I really enjoyed this game .Sorry it as come to an end If you right click on the crane
Click to reveal..
93 clicks across 3 up use the tape when you have it lined up with rge girder

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the book in the bar,I don't know what you mean. Please explain.
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where the activist is .Same place as the juke box


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Well, I'm about ready to give up on this game, shocking as that might seem, but I simply can NOT solve this weapon/girder puzzle sad

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My final attempt has been to site the weapon next to the girder, but just below it, and then try to get it in the girder by moving it up (and then across to the girder) one notch at a time ( a very slow process) using the control panel.
But it always ends up hitting the girder and falling off the hook sick


I couldn't work it out from your hint, either, dragonuk44, because you don't give a starting point whistle


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Click to reveal..
When you put the tape on the left arrow after you raised it up where you think it should be jump in the box where you took the machine part out of.
and he will climb in. Thats how I did it.


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Just had another dozen or so attempts, kjos, but still no go !! confused

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I have a save where I've lowered the crane and the weapon is on the hook ready to lift.
Can anyone tell me how many times I have to click to raise the hook before I put the tape on the button and jump in the crate ??


And I'll have to stop for the moment. Run out of "play" time whistle


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Click to reveal..
I think I counted about 28 times. Before you start moving the machine part save. Now you can start from there. Line it up where you think it will fall off when it collides with the other side. When you put the tape on the left arrow jump in the box where you took the part out of. Hopes this help.


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Mad,

Click to reveal..
Position the hook about where you think it should be then left click on the floor or someplace outside the arrow box.
Then right click on the Hook.
Ord will tell you just how many clicks you should make to left or right and up or down.

When you get that weapons part into position, ram it into the girder. You want it to fall off so you can hide in the crate. When it falls, click on the left side of the crate the part was in.


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Richard,

You may already have gotten this but in case you haven't, the clue you need for the crossword is in the book in the bar.

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When you get the coins from the sofa, use one on the rocker and choose the song.
It doesn't matter what you choose, what matters is that the man reading a book at one of the tables gets up and goes because of the noise and leaves his book behind.
Open the book and see the name of the fictional detective.
That's it.


Gil.


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Thanks so much Gil. I didn't do any of that. I used a coin on the rocker and he played the jukebox and I read the book. Now I have to figure what to do next.Richard

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Richard,

I can't remember if he leaves while you're there.
If he doesn't, just Exit the room and go back in again.

I really thought Herbert the fig would be the Trevor the cockroach of this game.
But no.
Darn. grin

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Gil how many hours have we played on this game. I've never had a harder game. MaG is just laughing.
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Now you go back to the grocery store, Richard.
Click on the owner and fill in his crossword.
You only have to fill in that one clue.

Look at it this way, we've been such a help MaG can just whiz through her walkthrough. devil
Snickering a lot. snicker

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Solved the crossword puzzle,
Click to reveal..
the word was vikland. I put the puzzle on the book on the table and it solved it.

Wonder if MaG will ever write a WT fir this game.
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She could be mean and just tell anyone who asks for one to read this thread.
rotfl

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Okay, I will be mean. rotfl

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Originally Posted By: traveler
She could be mean and just tell anyone who asks for one to read this thread.
rotfl

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That works for me. grin

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Well I got unto patricks flat and the cop shot him. and I took the elevator out. I went to the pub. and read the book and got transferred to where frejs is
off to red rock need some help in the restaurant. Something to do with the window.

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Richard,

Read back a little in the thread. Dragon asked about this.

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Dragon said just close the door but there isn't any door just exit.


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I went back and played that part again, Richard.
Here's the way I did it.
Click to reveal..
Ord looks at the photo but can't make out the faces.
Click on the chandelier and Ord comments on it.
He goes to the radiator when you click on it.
He talks to the maitre d' and asks about the photos/photographer.
He asks if the maitre d' has a magnifying glass.
He says goodnight and walks toward the exit after the maitre d' opens the window.
The draft makes a prism fall from the chandelier.
Use the prism on the photo.


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Originally Posted By: traveler
I went back and played that part again, Richard.
Here's the way I did it.
Click to reveal..
Ord looks at the photo but can't make out the faces.
Click on the chandelier and Ord comments on it.
He goes to the radiator when you click on it.
He talks to the maitre d' and asks about the photos/photographer.
He asks if the maitre d' has a magnifying glass.
He says goodnight and walks toward the exit after the maitre d' opens the window.
The draft makes a prism fall from the chandelier.
Use the prism on the photo.


Gil.


Where is this in the game? I didn't do any of this, but still finished the game....WEIRD.

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You had to ask me.
Do you know what a short attention span I have?
Ah...well, the way I got there this time (I won't swear I got there this way before) was to do the bit in the boathouse then talk to the shop owner who sent me to the waitress who told me where the photographer's work was being shown.

How's that for a run-on sentence? grin

Are you sure you didn't do this, JonVox?
I can't figure out how you finished the game if you didn't.
That photo is key to the solution.

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Hmmm...Definitely didn't do it.
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I went to the cabin and Veronika showed up and confessed and that was it. It makes much more sense now. I thought it very odd that I had the conversation option of "I know it was you in the boat with Jonatan." I was like...wait...what? How did I know that?? LOL Bizarre that the game let me skip that whole part of the game.

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The game knew who you were.
You got preferential treatment having been a part of it.

grin

Petter Ljungqvist dove into some pretty heavy themes for an adventure game.
I'll admit the ending brought me up short and left a bad taste in my mouth despite the "happy" ending, but then I thought there's never been any dearth of games about war and weapons manufacturers or religious cults; it's only the very sensitive subject he touched on that was so shocking.
We cringe away from it and wonder how on earth anyone could do that.
Sorta brave of him to make a game about it.

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The game knew who you were.
You got preferential treatment having been a part of it.

grin

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Ha! Think so? Wish it would've given me preferential treatment in a couple other spots in the game...

I just found a video playthrough, so I see what I missed....yeah, not sure how it let me finish the game. Seems like a crucial step.

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Shoot, I added a comment in the post you replied to, JonVox.
What did you think about the game's ending?

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Out of the frying pan into the fire !!

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After finally getting myself on the ship and finally dealing with the door of the hold, I am now trapped in a timed section as I try to get off the ship smashpc

So I'm having to ask for help again, please, as timed sequences in Adventure games are not and never have been my thing thumbsdown


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