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Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: oldbroad] #969689
07/24/14 09:19 PM
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I didn't find anything yet. I did end up downloading WinPatrol and looked in there a bit. I need more time when I'm not so tired from work to look at it all better. The only thing I really saw that I might try to put on delay is Steam and anything else I see that updates itself right away when the computer boots up. I don't want things updating until I'm more sure the computer will stay on. I haven't had any problems with it once it finally comes up (after two or three attempts).

Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: oldbroad] #969692
07/24/14 09:55 PM
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I agree - wait until your mind is fresh. But when your mind is clear and you want to tackle it, the usual way to find out what might be causing a problem is to simply disable everything and reboot. Then enable things you really need one at a time. NEVER have STEAM enabled in startup - that is one of the absolute worst. But other than your antivirus or maybe a couple of others, everything you find in there can be disabled.


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Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: Draclvr] #969698
07/24/14 11:55 PM
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Question, Drac.

What about the Microsoft programs in there?
Do you disable them?

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Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: oldbroad] #969699
07/25/14 12:05 AM
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Yes. That link I posted explains what they are. I never knew for sure, but when I looked them up, I didn't see any reason why they should be running at startup. I've never had any issues after disabling them.


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Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: oldbroad] #969753
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Nice link, Draclvr.
Better than looking each one up separately with Google.

Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: oldbroad] #969760
07/25/14 10:53 AM
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That's what I used to do... a pain for sure.


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Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: oldbroad] #974586
08/23/14 12:29 AM
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So, I left my computer on for about a week but have recently shut it down 3 times due to storms in the area and each of those 3 times it booted up just fine. Here's the 3 things that happened during that week.

1) I had some Windows updates to install which usually happens automatically but for some reason I had to initiate it. Maybe because I hadn't been shutting down which is when the updates always occur.

2) My Norton updated (the program, not just the virus definitions which it always does) and the Action Center stuff cleared out of there.

3) I have a paid for MSN Premium account because I prefer the MSN mail to any other I've tried. For quite some time there had been a prompt to update whenever I signed in or out of MSN but for some reason I didn't trust it. I googled it and it seemed like it would take me backwards to an older version of what I had so I just kept saying No to the update. Since I was having the freeze up problem, one day I decided I might as well try the update since I was going to have the computer looked at anyway. Well DUH. It WAS an update. MSN Explorer and email is working better and voila, my computer works now too!

So, fingers crossed, knock on wood, and all that other stuff. I think my computer is fixed.

By the way, I did purchase WinPatrol, not that I know what to do with it.

Re: crashing or shutting down problem [Re: oldbroad] #974637
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I've found exactly the same thing sometimes - just wait for the next Windows Update or something like that!

With WinPatrol, whenever something tried to put itself into your Startup, the little Scottie Dog with give a "ruff" sound and tell you about it. If you don't know what it is, you can click on the button that says Plus Info and find out what the program is. Maybe you've just installed something and it needs to run once the next time you boot up. Or maybe it's something nefarious - you will know immediately. It's also the best way to manage your Startup programs. Just right click on the little Scotty Dog in your hidden icons down on the lower right to open up all the options.


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