Stuck in the prothesis Shop trying to get Dave to listen to the music box. When Guy. asks him if he can hear -- he does not reply. Seem to be going around circles here. What should I be doing?

Lilac, I've checked a bunch of walkthroughs--one of them said to "use" the music box on Dave, and another said to place it on the counter! Here is the best sounding complete explanation--maybe you don't talk to Dave about the music, but just run quickly over to the basket: SPOILER
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*Talk to him and ask about a hand. Use the music box and steal the hand quickly.

Finally found where the hand was that Guybrush is to pick up = had some problems wondering where it was. Have the strategy mapped out how to get it, but not sure I am going to be fast enough doing so. I have problems when I have to use the keyboard to move things in a game. Have been trying off and on all day with no luck. When I finally get 'down and out' will anyone have a saved game past this part?

I know what you mean about using the keyboard to move around, Lilac!

I checked the back posts, and Syd suggested that you make Guybrush run to the basket. And someone else said that a slow-down utility might help, if the problem is that your computer is just too fast...

Still working at it -- not sure whether my PC is too slow or too fast or the problem is little old ME being too slow. I have a Pentium 3 450 MGh and using Win98SE as an OS. Not sure whether this is fast or slow in today's games?

Syd was right Jenny. Running was the answer. Had forgotten I can get the character to zoom around in this game. Have the hand, got the clock from the chess players and am merrily on my way. These Monkey games are a hoot. The dilogue just kills me.

Can you tell me how long one has to wait at the gate in Myst Swamp for the future Guybrush to appear. Have been tootling around now for some time and the WT I consult when I get stuck says that is what you have to do. My arms are wearing out poling around that same area again and again. Thought there just might be some trick to getting the future Guy. to appear. Have been consulting the time table and trying to pole in certain directions but so far am all alone there at the gate.

go to the gate as near as you can and a bit to the left so the future guybrush can pass by.

Still no future Guybrush. Tell me does it make a difference if Guybrush is outside the gate or within the gate? The heads of the gate look forward so I take it that is inside the gate. When Guybrush is outside the gate you can't see the faces. Though there is also a time when Guybrush is outside the gate and the faces do show as though the game player is inside the gate and Guybrush is outside. Hope I have not confused this issue.

Hi Lilac

I played this a long time ago but if I recall correctly the future Guybrush is looking at you through the gate so he's "inside the gate". The current Guybrush should have his back to you (I think LOL).

Well, guess I will have to put another game on and get involved in it. Guybrush of the future remains in the future and will simply not appear in the here and now.

Have present Guybrush outside the gate where the heads on the poles are facing him so I guess that means he is on the outside looking in and I put him slightly to the left (have tried both sides as left). But no future Guybrush.

So will try another game and ever so often go backto EFMI and see if I can get two Guys.

Unless someone else has any more ideas?

The only other suggestion I can think of Lilac, is to go back to a saved game and play this part again, following a walkthrough closely. Sometimes this will shake something loose...

Finally found the secret to the future Guybrush! The Wt I was following simply said to just wander around until the #2 appeared. Well, that certainly does not work. Found another WT that said to follow the clock and the directions received in the prosthesis shop. Worked like a charm -- so this info for anyone working this old but delightful game.

Thanks for the heads-up, Lilac. This illustrates the hazards of trying to help someone play a game that you don't have any experience with yourself--I just assumed that you were following those directions, and never thought to check whether you actually were or not...

Still escaping from Monkey Island. Anyone remember the spot where you are talking to parrots on the beach. Have got them talking, have made the one parrot tipsy, have decided on the truth talking parrot. BUT cannot bring up any dialogue that WTs claim will appear re a bronze hat. Missing something here but not sure what or where. WTs claim that if one got the parrots talking then you got the hidden triggers re talking to the tourist and the pirate so don't think I need to go back and engage in conversation with tourist or pirate again. If anyone remembers this old game and this spot where I am stuck -- all help gratefully appreciated.

Hazy memory here... but weren't you supposed to ask the pirate whose shoulder they were sat on where the hat was??

If not, try walking towards the rocks, see if they come with you... (right hand side of the screen I think)

Hugs

Tig

I have talked the pirate out -- keep getting same conversation over and over again. Tried walking toward the boulders and seemed to just walk around in circles after I got on boulder beach.

So went back to game where the birds had automatically went to the beach and I was to question them. So am now questioning them and as per above have reached a stalemate.

No big sweat if I never figure it out == will move to other games. Though I enjoy the Monkey games am finding them devlishly difficult around the conversation areas and somewhat boring when you get stuck and can't get the conversation you are supposed to in order to move on.

When you went to the rocky beach, did you blow the whistle?? That summons the parrots (knew I missed something!!)

Tig

After you made one parrot drunk you have to talk with the other one. He will tell you the truth.You don't have to go back to the two men and talk to them again,in that case you will never come to an end.So if you ask the parrot where the hat lies, he will go and you have to follow him. This will take a long time. If he flies away, use the whistle to bring him back.Finally he will bring you to the hat, that is of course on the end of the beach. But you have to follow all the instructions of the parrot.
Good luck and don't give up. Even I didn't.

I am talking endlessly with the sober parrot and the truth telling one from what I can discern.

And have blown that whistle umpteem times with the parrots following me all around the beach.

The part I am missing is I can't get the truthful sober parrot to come up with conversation lines that enable me to ask about the hat.

All I get are the same conversation lines over and over. Have even gone back to the pirate, brought the parrots back to perch on his shoulder and started over again with little luck.

I seem to be doing the right actions but not getting the conversation lines that the WTs tell me I should be getting -- the one about the hat.

Grrrrrrrrrr:)

Hi desertlilac,

I came late on these - so bear with me if you have done some of the stuff I will mention.

You might need to go back to a saved game.

1. You should have talked to the tourist by the statue in town and he should have clued you in about the HAT. He should have told you the story of the LeFeet and about the statue. He should also have told you about where to find the hat.
2. Then when you get to Knuttin Hole - talk to the pirate all about his weight, LeFeet and about Ultimate Insult. He should have told you about what happened to LeFeet and where the hat is buried. He has to mention - one of the boulders.
3. Now the parrot - after finding out from the pirate all about the parrots and how one lies and one tells the truth - give one of the parrot either the coffee or the microgrog. Then ask the parrot something that will show who lies. Just be persistent and ask the truthful bird which direction to go to to find the rock and eventually he will show you where it is. Follow the direction and he when he says 'nowhere' - that means you found the correct rock.

Good luck,
MaG

Bless you bless you MaG. This was to have been my last post as giving up on the game. Your directions will be enormously helpful. Yes, I will have to go back to a saved game but with your ideas think maybe I might muddle through now:) Thanks muchly again. When I am finished with this game -- will post a celebration note!!!!

Hope that by going back to a saved game and talking your head off with all those characters - something will shake loose and get you through to pick up that hat.

MaG

Still at it with Monkey -- went way back in saved games in order to get fresh start. Am now on Jambalaya Island looking for the high rock to get the Golden man. (Gave up the bronze hat for the time being). Can't find that rock to save me. So decided to do the puppet thing -- now can't get the puppeteer to come out and then run away so I can pick up the puppets. Any ideas on these two issues. Never have I played such a frustrating game -- trying to get people to say things they should:(

Did you show the puppeteer the picture on the back of your map, Lilac...

When you ask the parrot a question, he will move in a certain direction, you have to follow him. He has to mention the direction where to go. Sometimes it seems illogical but it will work.You have to show your painting of the ultimate insult to the puppeteer.

I seem to know what to do but not the how. I have tried every conversation I can think of to get the puppeteer to run away by showing him the painting but so far have not managed the right combination.

Here's the step by step from UHS hints:
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How do I get the Guybrush and LeChuck puppets?
You take can't them when they're still on the puppeteer's hands. You need to get rid of the puppeteer somehow.
Scaring him would do the trick. You need to figure out some way to do this.
First, you need to talk to him somehow.
The LeChuck puppet will be unwilling to let you talk to anyone else. Asking him to do so won't do any good. Try something else.
Keep on asking him about Hellbeard until he gets mad and lets you talk to the Guybrush puppet.
Now, ask the Guybrush puppet to talk to the puppeteer. You'll have to ask twice.
Talk to the puppeteer until you discover something that would scare him.
You'll discover that he's scared of the Ultimate Insult. How can you use this fear to your advantage?
If he saw one, it'd probably scare him away.
You have a picture of one in your inventory. That would work.
Show the map/Ultimate Insult instructions to Hellbeard. (You may need to talk to the puppets again until Hellbeard pops up.)
Now, just pick up the puppets that he leaves behind.

Hope this gets you through!
MaG

Ah ha -- will follow your instructions and see how I do. Thanks ever so much.

Finally got the puppets - whewww! Now am stuck on the beach trying to get the correct conversation from both the pirate/the parrots. I just keep going around in circles with the same conversation over and over again.

With the pirate it has boiled down to three choices:

Ask why the Capt. is firing the cannon balls

Ask about the pirate's father

Tell pirate you are leaving.

I can't get anything about the Ult. Insult

And with the parrots - have discerned which is lying but again conversation just goes in circles -- never get the chance to ask about the bronze hat etc.

What am I doing wrong?!

Check this and it might help - Bronze hat Hints

It gives all the dialogues needed.

MaG

The hint list is excellent and I went clear back in my game to do Jambalya Island over again. So started anew in the Threepwood Inn. Tried talking to the tourist exactly as the hint list suggests but cannot get him to talk about the bronze hat -- he keeps saying he has no clue to that part of the Ultimate Insult. So am stuck again. The hint list claims one should talk about the bronze hat, then comment on the tourist's clothes, then ask about LaFeet. The tourist conversation I get is - he knows nothing about the bronze hat, never talks about Lafeet even though I talk about his (the tourist's clothes). I am missing something I guess but for the life of me do not know what.

Lilac, besides the two places Mags has given you, have you checked out The Spoiler Centre ? They have five walkthroughs for EFMI....

Jenny thanks for the extra WTs. I am afraid this game will drive me and all of you who are trying to help me batty. I seem to be doing all things the WTs talk about. Did find I was talking to the wrong tourist. Finally got that straightened out. Having done all the things I was supposed to but not in the order the WTs talk about -- I still cannot get the pirate on the beach to talk about the hat telling me he buried it under a boulder. So therefore cannot seem to get the conversation where the parrots tell me about the boulders. I am missing something or doing something wrong or not in order -- not sure what. I have even started over again re Jambalaya Island and tried following the one WT from MaG but still am unable to bring up the right conversation about the hat. Got the Monkey Mug with no problem. Maybe I should try for the Golden Man and see how I do then return to the Bronze Hat? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:(