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Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124200
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You know, I don't hate action gamers, or rpg-ers, or strategy gamers, or any OTHER type gamers. So....why is it they all seem to hate adventure gamers so much??

I've posted on other gaming boards and been met with downright hateful flaming just for expressing my love of adventures. And I'm always careful to say that I do play other genres as well (because I DO), but....they still pounce on me like I've just commited a mortal sin! What's up with that??? How did we become such a HATED segment of the gaming population???

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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124201
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They do? grrrr.

Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124202
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I too have the same problem. I went to a action webb once looking for a walkthrough. There were some there but I found a more complete walkthrough for the game I was looking for, and posted a reply. I got a answer to my reply and it said (We would rather write our own walkthrough, goodbye). I never went back there again.


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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124203
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Maybe they don't take us seriously, and think we're a bunch of wimps, because we'd rather not spend our leisure time slicing and dicing our way through horrible monsters, or fighting gun battles, or trying to escape other forms of violent death.

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P.S., I should have added: because we'd rather use our brains than our trigger fingers.

Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124205
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Well, there's room here at Gameboomers for puzzlers, adventurers, rpgers, fpsers and "slice and dicers" FOTFL laugh laugh laugh , that's for sure! Come one come all...its just one big community. That's what makes Gameboomers such a great place to park your hat, or your bike, or your HummerII, or even your unicycle! ......whatever you got, we've got a spot for it.....we're just plain NICE here at Gameboomers!

Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124206
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P.S., I should have added: because we'd rather use our brains than our trigger fingers.
They're just jealous of our brain power. <img border="0" alt="[winky]" title="" src="graemlins/winky.gif" />


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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124207
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I don't know that all folks who play action games hate adventure gamers. I have played a number of number of FSP/action games as have quite a few people here at GB.

I think that at many pure action sites - the average age of the members is considerably younger than here at GB and other more mixed sites. As such - they aren't only ruder to an adventure gamer who stumbles in - they tend to give fellow members more than their share of grief as well. A lot of it is just the way they joke and talk to one another. I look at many of the threads to get a sense of the layout before I post. If it's fairly rough and tumble - I expect it too. On the other hand - there is some universal disdain of adventure games as they think of them. They just don;t want a story, plot - dialogue and the like to get in the way of quick twitch action and can't figure out what the noise is all about with those who do. Just the way it is.

That's why I hang here at GB - it suits me fine smile

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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124208
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Good for you witchen. I love adventure games but I've played all the new ones, so I have to go to action and rpg. They keep me going until another adventure game comes out.
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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124209
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Another genre I should have mentioned above is "strategy." I love strategy games, not necessarily war/combat, but city/country building games like the Sierra series Pharoah/Cleopatra/Zeus/Poseidon and the latest, Emperor! Great stories, very engaging. There's another called "Tropico" about building an empire south of the border, and many, many others that are darn fun and NICE for a change. smile



Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124210
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I certainly agree with Witchen that there's room here for everyone with all different tastes, and that the "niceness" of GB is what makes the difference.

On the other hand, it's good for everyone to remember to check their biases at the door. Being an action gamer myself, I can't think of too many brains that I envy, personally. wink

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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124211
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Hi.

I reckon those ones who "hate" us (and they don't ALL hate us) just allow their tongues to run away with themselves as much as their action button fingers do.....

rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124212
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I think gatorlaw hit it right on the head. It all depends on the board and how it's moderated. I personally won't post on one that runs wild. There's too much grief in the world already without me posting and then having to get all worked up over the fighting and arguing in places like that, so I avoid them.

GB is a great place, because we accept all types of gamers here.

Witchen, I like strategy games too, but I'm a dunce at them. smile I start out fine and then spread myself too thin. I have "The Nations" here that looks pretty good, so eventually I'll get up my nerve to try it.

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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124213
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Why do they hate us???
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Why does a person hate ANYONE who is smarter, cuter and more popular than them?

lol lol lol

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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124214
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Hi Jean, wave

....you yourself hit it on the head too, with your statement about there already being enough grief in the world. Gaming creates a community of fun, relaxation and, yes, even education, here at Gameboomers. Its a fine space to hang in, isn't it? Collectively, Gameboomers creates the best of all possible gaming environments, thanks to both members and staff. As they say..."birds of a feather flock together."


As for strategy games, I haven't heard of "The Nations." Sounds like I am missing something. I'll check it out. laugh


Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124215
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Quote:
Originally posted by girlgeek:
I've posted on other gaming boards and been met with downright hateful flaming just for expressing my love of adventures.
What gaming board is this. I'll sort them out... mad


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Most of them are young,male and hyped up on the adrenalin rush of the games.My son is 14 and plays Halo/Unreal/Serious Sam like a demon.He refuses to play them with me anymore because he gets bored at how bad I am due entirely to me having appallingly slow reactions compared to his younger body.Add to this the fact he is a typical moody teenager who naturally doesn't want me(his mother and an adult) to butt into his interests and hobbies and I think that you have the recipe for apparent aggression against adventure gamers because we tend to be older.Their attitude may be those that those who can, do action,those who can't, do adventure.The PC Games magazines also tend to reflect this attitude as most of the writers are in the younger section of 20-30.

I just stay away from sites like that.There are plenty dedicated to adventure games.Some of the ones set up for specific games spring to mind as well as this one.

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"those who can, do action,those who can't, do adventure"

I love this statement! Action gamers should enjoy their youth while they still can. They'll have plenty of years left to appreciate slow-moving adventures when their reflexes are shot.

Maybe adventure gamers posting on action forums are a nasty reminder of the inevitable day when you can't complete a game because you can't move fast enough. That day when your hearing is no longer so good and your vision dims. That day you can't distinguish real maple syrup from the imitation stuff. That horrible day when you wake up and realize: "It's come to this -- I can maintain my competence as a gamer only if I stick to games like Myst!"

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Don't be too hard on the younger, male actioneer. Being surly and nasty is part of the act. I have a 16 year old nephew who has a black belt in Karate, helps his master teach classes, goes out to his grandparents, helps his grandmother in the kitchen, helps his grandfather ride the rounds out on the farm. He's a good student, very friendly and respectful. But get that guy on an online shooter and he becomes this killing machine, ripping swaths through the other young players. There is a function where you can type text and taunt the other players and he shakes his head at some of the stuff they say. Still, who knows what happens when he plays alone. Anyway, it is a virtual environment. As in, not real. Like Jack says, we should ALL check our biases at the door.

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Hi I think part of the intolerance of the people that play the shoot um up type games is age. Adventure game players are a mature lot (from a poll).The gamers that think the shoot and kill games are the only worthwhile ones are a much younger group, on the average. No one is as smart as a second year college student. The older you get the more you realize how little you know. Also instant gratification comes into play. You have to wait --sometimes weeks to get that charge from adventure games. A very poor second to blast and kill in many of the other type games. These are NOW games. Anyway I have played both and much prefer to think and solve rather than run around with a "zapper gun" or some such thing. There is room for us all (from Witchen) and hopefully we will all get along.
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I would just like to mention as a person as fond of RPGs as I am of adventures, that I really don't see the bias on RPG forums against adventurers either. And they are generally just as maligned by some of the FPS type boards.Not action gamers as a whole. Everyone has already said it before, so I won't belabor the point that age seems to me to be a huge factor, but also I think the moderators set the tone for any forum - and there are adventure forums that malign other adventure forums too. We're so lucky to have a place like GB where that sort of thing is not tolerated, and everyone is welcome.


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I've been on the net for ages...since 91...and I've never come across such a more welcoming, kind and helpful board as this.

There's just way too many people on the net who like to stir up [blip]. As they remain anonymous, they feel more powerful.

I know my future stepsons think i'm absolutely insane for playing adventure games. They'd rather pull their fingernails out than have to sit down and read and use their brains. So, what it comes down to is the gender gap.


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I've been on the net for ages...since 91...and I've never come across such a more welcoming, kind and helpful board as this.

There's just way too many people on the net who like to stir up [blip]. As they remain anonymous, they feel more powerful.

I know my future stepsons think i'm absolutely insane for playing adventure games. They'd rather pull their fingernails out than have to sit down and read and use their brains. So, what it comes down to is the gender gap.
I agree with you. When my boys where teenagers the would spend hours "stirring up trouble" in chat rooms and message boards. They thought it was hysterictly funny and powerful to make fun and flame and whatnot....that is, until one day...someone did it to someone they loved...me.
You should have seen them. They were furious, after all how dare some "idoit" on a message board hurt they're mom's feelings, make her cry and upset her (it didn't really make me cry ..I just led them to believe it did, I WAS trying to make a point with them, after all) I told them through my sobs (I'm good at "sobs") that all I had done was ask a question and immediately I was virtually screamed at. Flamed! I asked them, "Well, why should you care? After all, you boys do it to other people all the time."
Do you know that from that day on both my boys stopped their "flamethrowers" and attitude on message boards. It made them realize that they really had no clue who the "human being" is behind that screen name that they were ready to "burn" They both realized that what they were indulging in was a form of "ignorant cowardice".
They never looked at it as though they were being rude and hurting people's feeling. They realize now though. They spent the rest of their "teenage years helping people instead of hurting them." And now and then jumping in and downright saving them if needs be. Yup, I watched my sons grow that day, that one little step that true adults call "understanding". It was a beautiful thing.
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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124224
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Most of the people that play action games are youngsters. For me I don't hate anyone else for playing what they love.

I love adventure games because is an escape from the real world. Adventure games takes me to a whole new world of imagination and I love that. I don't need anymore violence, I get that from Televsion.

And I have played action games, but it is not my cup of tea.

I love adventure games and the makers of adventure games, their imagination their stories and challenges the mind.

I know a few people who only played action games, and I lend them some of my adventure games and they loved it. So for those who never played adventure games, don't knock it until you try it.

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