Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost

Posted by: Becky

Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 09:18 PM

Tri Synergy Comments on Recent Limbo of the Lost/Oblivion Comparisons


Quote:
Tri Synergy, Inc. (www.trisynergy.com) would like to publish an official comment regarding recent comparisons of level design and artwork between Majestic Studios’ Limbo of the Lost and Bethesda’s The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion/Eidos Interactive’s Thief: Deadly Shadows.

Tri Synergy is just as shocked as everyone else is by the recent screenshot comparisons. At no point during our dealings with Majestic Studios up until the point that the comparison was first publicly made by a third party did we have any knowledge of these similarities. Additionally, Tri Synergy will discontinue distribution of Limbo of the Lost in both retail and online outlets.

We have contacted the developer, Majestic, and are anxiously awaiting their response. As soon as we know more on this matter we will issue another statement.
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 09:20 PM

Oh, Dear

So ..Becky ..Does that mean there will be no more games from them frown
Posted by: Becky

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 09:24 PM

Well, I would be VERY surprised if there were more games from the developers (Majestic Studios) after this.

I don't know how this will affect Tri Synergy (US publisher) or G2 Games (UK publisher). I think we're just going to have to wait and see what happens.
Posted by: oldmariner

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 10:49 PM

There are some screen shot comparisons in this thread over at JA.

Thread

It seems there are some issues with written dialog as well.
Posted by: Jenny100

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:00 PM

Looks like both the G2 Games version and the Tri Synergy version of this game are going to become collectors' items.
Posted by: Becky

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:02 PM

Shhhh!
Posted by: Ivinia

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:06 PM

That was my thought too Jenny...
Posted by: Jenny100

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:13 PM

I would think this would make the game more fun to play for gamers who enjoy action and RPG games as well as adventures. They could have contests with each other picking out where the different parts of the game came from. Someone should make a website about it. This is a great candidate for JA's Dungeon of Shame.
Posted by: RayBres

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:41 PM

It's also noteworthy that this same Limbo of the Lost game was the source of so much controversy in this forum several months ago (December or so?) when a seemingly immature individual connected with the game's development criticized a reviewer at GB. The plot thickens considerably now.
Posted by: Marian

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:51 PM

I well remember when the designer(s) posted on this board, prior to the game's release, due to the fracas that ensued. That was memorable right there, but I never could have imagined this particular denouement.

And, yes, perversely, I am glad that I own a copy of this game;it's definitely destined for a grotesque notoriety (!).
Posted by: InlandAZ

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Becky
Shhhh!

You got that right -
Posted by: oldmariner

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/11/08 11:56 PM

InlandAZ have not seen you around in awhile. How are you?
Posted by: InlandAZ

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 12:32 AM

Been just fine oldmariner - how's by you?
Posted by: metamorphium

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 03:17 AM

This is sad day for us independent developers out there. Not wanting to repeat myself, I've commented on the news:

http://forum.dead-code.org/index.php?topic=2746.msg18387#msg18387

WME community is deeply saddened that we helped to create this act of plagiatorism by providing tons of ready-to-use code, advices etc. We hope publishers out there won't take this as a precedense and use it against us who honestly invest tons of hours into creating our own games.

I wish to SBOVIS/FABLE and all other his aliases to look in the mirror and ponder if this is the life he wants to live.
Posted by: Karsten

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 06:03 AM

iF this is true, then it is indeed a sad day for independent developers.

However, I remeber someone claiming that STALKER (I think it was Stalker) also had stole textures from either Oblivion or Doom 3. It was later revealed that both the devs. behind STALKER and the devs. from Oblivion or DOOM 3 had licensed the exact same assets from a third party (russian?) webiste/firm where they could get them for free, I think?

My guess is that this at least in part could be an explanation here.

The bigger discussion it this one:

Do Bethesda or any other game developer have copy right to a staircase used in a mansion in a game? If they have, then the whole gaming community could well be in trouble asd this would mean that noone ever could make a traditional mansion with a long winding staircase...

I'm not advocating theft or IP or copy right infringement here,
and I think it is sad when Majestic Studio indeed took a shortcut by imitating (or copying) some or all of Oblivion's content or rooms in Oblivion.

The story in Limbo of the Lost seems nowhere to be ripped off from Oblivion which is what I hear when I hear the word 'level design'.

Many games today use the Unreal 3 engine (like Oblivion) and many games today also use Speedtree, and Havoc for physics effects. That's why they apparently all look the same today s compared to the game of yesteryear where handcolored backgrounds were much more prevalent.

Again, I'm not saying that Majestic Studios didn't do anything wrong, (it certainly looks that way right now, though), but let's say you where to make a game and you needed an old victorian mansion. Wouldn't you think of an old house in sort of gothic style with a long winded staircase, possibly starting in the middle and a rug in the hallway + maybe a varm and cosy fireplace? I know I would...

Please do not take this an excuse for any copyright stealing or infringement, mere a question on where to draw the line between inspiration and stealing...

Posted by: metamorphium

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 06:39 AM

Unfortunately, this is no "inspiration". If you looked at comparison shots, they are direct rips from the respective games.

So it's not a question about texture or sound but of pressing a print screen and pasting it into photoshop. So while we all agree that many games inspire from each other, in this case it's a direct screen grab from tons of existing games including Oblivion, Bloodlines, Silent Hill 4, Fable etc.
Posted by: Becky

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 07:28 AM

More information is now available on Wikipedia. Click here and scroll down to the "Controversy," "External links" and "References" sections.
Posted by: alkis21

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 09:02 AM

I understand people's concerns regarding how this may affect other independent developers, but I can assure you that as far as my company is concerned I'm not worried at all. If your conscience is clear, it's very easy to prove that all the work included in your game is yours: I have all the necessary paperwork and in fact I spent quite a lot of money to insure that everything is not only proved to be mine, but also copyrighted. I can't imagine why a publisher would not want to do business with me.
Posted by: Sally(MG)

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 12:11 PM

How in the name of ______ did they think they could get away with this? Their names are in the media, pictures were taken, they were published in NA and Europe.

I mean, sure, they made this game, got it published, got some money for it (that will soon be sued off of them wholesale) but the only way this could've gone unnoticed is if we're still getting games on floppy disks and the internet doesn't exist.

I just can't understand the mentality of the person who thinks that he can slap his name as "game designer" and use major commercial game screenshots.
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 01:24 PM

I just looked at the comparison screenshots Of limbo & oblivion..

They are the same.. eek

I guess there work wasn't there own.. shame
Posted by: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 01:26 PM

Darleen, that's what all this is about. It goes far beyond Oblivion.
Posted by: Marian

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 01:27 PM

It would appear at this point that they have ripped off so many different games (and movies as well), that the challenge now is to find something in the way of graphics that IS indeed theirs, and original.
Posted by: chrissie

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 02:35 PM

After all the abuse that Inferno got & the subsequent posts by other members of the team defending S Bovis & themselves I just can't see them as anything but a bunch of p********s.

Here are the 'young & hotheaded' culprits: (I hope it's okay to post this link from JA)

http://www.kentmessenger.co.uk/paper/default.asp?article_id=9644&slide_id=1& amp;newspage=2&searchkeyword=&searchpage=1

It seems now that their 'fate & destiny' is that their arrogance will cost them a lot more financially than they've made from the game as it looks like they are going to be sued bigtime.
Posted by: oldmariner

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Sally(MG)
How in the name of ______ did they think they could get away with this? Their names are in the media, pictures were taken, they were published in NA and Europe.


It depends, if the intent was to steal from other games to profit by it, I suspect they knew it would blow up at some point. If that is / was their thinking, it is likely they took their initial payday and are long gone.

On the other hand if they were so foolish to believe nobody would notice well they deserve the flak.

Based upon the reviews, reception and overall end product of the game the former is more likely. If so they have new names, a new location and perhaps even another game under production.

Time will tell.
Posted by: chrissie

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 03:02 PM

My other thought was that the notoriety attached to the game along with a publisher pulling out would push up the value of any copies put into circulation but not necessarily by people who have bought the game.... (tell me off if I'm being too wicked here.)
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 03:32 PM

This is very sad news... frown

I think I will hold on to my Copy of Limbo...Might make me some money on Ebay lol
Posted by: SkeeterUK

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 03:40 PM

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17885450

Lots of comparison shots on this topic also. Wow really surprised a publisher didnt know of this. And to the developers of limbo, shame on you. Stealing others work is a crime and i hope they get whats coming to them. Theives..

--

Hmm when was limbo released, it wasnt released on april 1st was it by chance? laugh
Posted by: Becky

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 03:48 PM

Chrissie -- thinking that a now-famous game whose publisher is pulling all copies at the moment of publication would (possibly) increase in value -- is that wicked? Sssshh!

Click to reveal..
Attention! BAAGers find your plastic! On your marks, get set...
Posted by: PolloDiablo

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 03:59 PM

Well, although I consider myself a collector of adventure game and enjoy buying 'rarities'; I am glad I did not spend any of my money on these frauds. It may become quite valuable one day, but it'll be a lacking in my collection that I will not regret one bit.
Posted by: chrissie

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 04:09 PM

Hi Becky, I was thinking more that the developers would be in a position to flog copies themselves on E-bay but thinking about it, it would probably not compensate for their legal bill.

Click to reveal..
Wish I'd bought more copies & must remember to phone my mother & try & convince her that the one I bought her as a present was just one that I lent her & she has to give it back soon! devil lol
Posted by: Becky

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 04:21 PM

Pollo -- thumbsup

Chrissie -- I've done exactly that, though in my case with Cassandra Galleries.
Posted by: The Haze

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 04:22 PM

duh Ignoring all this well-deserved shock and amazement for the moment, am I the only one who thought it was a fairly lousy game? I admit it was presented as a grotesquely unique game, but most of the other elements which reviewers actually review seemed ill-done or carelessly completed. I was, in fact, prepared to write rather negative review of it myself. [A note of honesty here, I haven't finished the last level, so perhaps that saves it.] headscratch

Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 04:42 PM

I can't believe these guys made all this money off of another person's work...

I did think in the beginning that there was a lot of Hoop-La with this game...Sort of like game hype....

They charged $40.00 for this game ..Which was way to much for wandering around aimlessly smirk
Posted by: chrissie

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 05:07 PM

I thought it was overall a very entertaining and humorous game with nice scenery (cough!) & good voice acting. I liked the different styles of each level even if I thought them a little incongruous with each other. I personally thought the game worked & had an unusual quality about it. It's seems debatable now as to how much of the game was actually the original work of the developers as I've since read something else referring to plagiarised dialogue!

Another thing I thought about was flotsam's 2008 'twisty' list which I believe is to start this weekend. I've already done a provisional list & Limbo of the Lost already wasn't a contender for the top 21 for me so I'm quite relieved! But I wondered how this is going to affect submissions by other players?

Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 06:01 PM

I think...And please correct me if I am wrong...

That the game a couple of months ago came from Sing a Pore...SO no one noticed until it got published by Tri Synergy ...

It sort of breeze by everyone until it hit the USA publisher duh
Posted by: Becky

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 06:38 PM

Darleen -- for some reason, the UK publisher sent out a bunch of copies to an Asian distributor before the game became available in the UK. (It might have been Singapore, I don't remember exactly.) That's where the GameBoomers got their hands on it.

I believe that, for the past few months, it has been possible to purchase the game via the UK publisher's store (UK publisher is G2 Games).

Tri Synergy was about to release the game in the US and sent around copies to the reviewers of various websites and magazines. One of those reviewers, who apparently plays RPGs and has a good eye for graphical detail, noticed the similarities between the two games.

I think that's what's happened so far.
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 08:02 PM



Oh well...Lesson learned I say...On to better games yay
Posted by: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 08:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Darleen2003
See Becky That's what I said...The fraud didn't get noticed till it hit the USA....
The foreign countries didn't find it


Darleen, it has nothing to do with it. The game has not been released here in the US yet as you can see Here . Review copies were sent out with the G2 publisher also to the US, before Tri-Synergy ever agreed to publish it here. It just took a keen eye to make the connection. Once the connection was made, it was then looked at with a different eye and more things were found.

Ana wave
Posted by: DaveHT

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 08:41 PM

This is indeed an most unusual and tragic event for the adventure game community.

Does anyone know if this has ever happened to any adventure game before? Or any video game in general?
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 08:52 PM

Thanks, Ana

Does anyone know who had the keen eye? I would love to know that... bravo
Posted by: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 08:53 PM

It was posted on the other thread I linked to. Here is the original breaking news.

Ana wave
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 08:58 PM

Thanks, Ana

I am so amazed by this...I think maybe this is first with adventure games...Do you "agree:"?

Posted by: Ivinia

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 09:00 PM

I think it comes down to someone playing who is pretty familiar with the game (Oblivion) and has played it fairly recently. Even then I would suspect that for most it wouldn't even register because no one would even consider for a moment that a developer with a publishing contract would be THAT brazen.

Once someone pointed out the store in the imperial city, it was like a switch went off and all of a sudden you see TONS of things from other games in there.
Posted by: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 09:04 PM

DArleen, I think it's safe to say that nothing has surfaced to this extent.

Ivinia, the second I showed my son the screenshots yesterday he recognized the Oblivion scenes. I played Oblivion and never made the connection. Now that I know it, I remember all the scenes.

Ana wave
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 09:08 PM

My son also played Oblivion...But he doesn't play adventure games...I never played oblivion...So I hadn't a clue...

Well...I said enough about Limbo...On this thread...

Its just a sad day when people steal others hard work to make a profit..

Very Sad frown
Posted by: Mad

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/12/08 11:23 PM

Hi smile

I am so disappointed and disgusted - having originally given my full support to two of the development team duh

Cheers.

Mad frown
Posted by: Butcher

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/13/08 04:41 AM

My brother and I were talking about PC games he bought and he asked me whether i knew LOTL, and i told him yes i knew about it, and he said google limbo of the lost oblivion and i did, i was amazed by the results. It's not just borrowing ideas, it's copying and pasting from various games. Disgrace.
Posted by: JennyP

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/13/08 10:19 AM

Do I remember some rather strange attitudes from the developers on this site ? They were being difficult about one of our reviews and a walkthrough if I remember rightly
Posted by: Becky

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/13/08 10:34 AM

JennyP -- you remember correctly. lol Though as a result of their remarks here the review was never posted.
Posted by: cazziejoe

Limbo of the Lost......WOW! has anyone seen this? - 06/13/08 10:54 AM

http://www.gameplasma.com/limbo_of_the_lost_or_oblivion.html

JA also has something on their site about this. If it's true that's pretty brazen!
Posted by: Rushes

Re: Limbo of the Lost......WOW! has anyone seen this? - 06/13/08 10:57 AM

Hi cazziejoe,

There's a Sticky topic at the top of this forum about the very same thing.
Posted by: cazziejoe

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/13/08 11:00 AM

Oh! Always a bit behind here.....
Posted by: lexxy

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/14/08 10:29 PM

I may be wrong but I was just over at Amazon.com (US) site and I saw the game on sale for $29.99. It did state that it would take 3-5 weeks for delivery. There is a copy up for bidding at Ebay curently going for $61.00. What in the world is going on?
Posted by: Darlene

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/15/08 01:42 AM

Needless to say, I would not buy this game from anyone, to ensure not another penny goes into their fraudulent coffers.
Posted by: LindaMarion

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/15/08 04:16 AM

What disgusting crowd.from more than 1 point of view.
Posted by: dragonuk44

Re: Limbo of the Lost......WOW! has anyone seen this? - 06/15/08 06:39 AM

Ihave nt played Oblivion so I would nt have noticed .I think this is bad for gaming .I guess it all comes down to money as usual duh Such a pity
Posted by: Karsten

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/15/08 08:54 AM

Originally Posted By: lexxy
I may be wrong but I was just over at Amazon.com (US) site and I saw the game on sale for $29.99. It did state that it would take 3-5 weeks for delivery. There is a copy up for bidding at Ebay curently going for $61.00. What in the world is going on?


As for the ebay thing, I know that people at some other places want to get their hands on this game before production is shut down totally. Apparently the game isn't any good, so it is probably not for the gameplay, but for the knwoing that they own a copy one of the most infamous games that's ever been released.

I have played Oblvioon a lot and I did not notice this either..

Posted by: sierramindy

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/15/08 01:18 PM

Hmm, if I had stock in Oblivion, I would be happy, just look at all the free publicity the game is getting. More sales will probably follow!
Posted by: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/15/08 01:26 PM

Oblivion doesn't need the publicity. It is a huge hit and already on the bookshelves of any RPG gamer around, including mine.

Ana wave
Posted by: TLC

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/15/08 02:59 PM

I'm not really an RPG gamer but I have Oblivion and 1 expansion. lol wave
Posted by: Celtic Lark

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/16/08 10:01 PM

I got LOTL for Christmas and I still haven't had a chance to play it. It's still all wrapped up in it's original packaging. I don't even want to open it now, I'm so disgusted by this. I think I'd rather go buy Oblivion and play that instead.
Posted by: Darleen03

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/16/08 10:20 PM

Celtic Lark ..Don't deprive yourself of playing a game you payed good money for or got as a present because of these post....

We all have opinions..& most of us have played the game..So enjoy

You should play the game..Games are meant to be played...Regardless of what is said on forums...

Happy Gaming yay
Posted by: Hanksdog

Question?: Limbo of the Lost - 06/24/08 09:52 AM

Dear Friends (mods and family alike) from GB......

How's everyone doing? Great I hope! I'm holding down the fort here on the northshore of New Orleans, LA.
I got an email from a "boomer" who keeps in contact with me and she mentioned that my copy of 'Limbo' might be a collector's item in the future. Since buying the game I have yet to play it or even look at it really. I have not had time to play in ages but I have kept up buying games and keeping up with what's out (for when I do get a chance) and since I also have not been on GB for ages and do not have a clue as to what she is referring, could someone please enlighten me! I tried a 'search' on GB Discussion Forum, but did not see anything. What's the "skinny", or the "411" (very out of date phrases)!
Any info whould be helpful. Thank you

Hugs... Hank and Syrahound!!!
Posted by: BrownEyedTigre

Re: Question?: Limbo of the Lost - 06/24/08 10:00 AM

Hanksdog, if you read this thread I merged your post into, it will explain.

Ana wave
Posted by: 3dobermans

Re: Question?: Limbo of the Lost - 06/24/08 10:41 AM

I for one didn't buy the game and stated so on the previous thread that had so many ambiguous remarks as well as negative remarks against our own by the so-called developers.
"A collectors item", "you have to play the game", oh please; it's "damaged goods" and should be treated as such.


Posted by: Celtic Lark

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/24/08 03:36 PM

Hi Darleen - I understand your points and if I had played the game before hearing this news, that would be that. But since I haven't, I think I'll either not play it at all or put it at the back of the queue and give it some further thought. I know it's not going to make a difference to anyone else but me at this point, but it just feels wrong to me, somehow. It might not be a totally logical response but we humans are not the most logical of creatures. smile
Posted by: dragonuk44

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/25/08 01:25 AM

I had the game well befor all this started and I will finish playing it as I am hafe way through .I got Jack Keane then Dracula so it went on hold .Its not our fault this as happened and I dont know about any one else I payed good money for this game .If I could buy it now I wouldnt but its to late so I will play it . lol wave duh
Posted by: Hanksdog

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/25/08 10:06 AM

Dear Friends of GB..(old and new alike).....

Now I have a moral delimna!! I'm not kidding here! Truly I have a moral delimna!
Let me explain! I have not played any of the games that were mentioned here on this post. So, to me, the game will be new.... but, and this is a big but, at what point do I say "No, I do not condone what you have done whether it be somone saying "Oh Gee, (slap forhead), how could I ever have missed that". I don't think it's right to esentually say "Oh heckers, what has that got to do with me. I have a game that may be worth money in the future."
Then on the other hand, at what point do I find Tri-Synergy culpable for using work from other games? Should I really be asking for my money back on the game if they truly did not know the scope of the similarities?
Lastly... maybe I'm taking this to the extreme. But I have to wonder, what would any other game develper do if they played a game or purchased a game and then found out that the game they had sweat blood and tears over, each and every scene and nuamce, could be found in a small and maybe not so small way in another game (at least enough for others to notice). Thinking... "I gave my intelectual property to a major corporation, but little did I think that they would allow another to produce a game that I put blood and tears into....that not only mirored my game to the point that others noticed but helped those people reach an easy ends to a difficult prolem"
Many of you say that 'Limbo' had many scenes that looked like several other games...(I won't know the extent of the plagerism {right word? or not?} whether it is seems to be purposefully done or not! Is plagerism the most appopriate word?
A mistake is a mistake (One maybe two could be acceptable if they are not very blatent or close to the original(s) (again something I won't have a clue about).
I am not trying to be imflamatory or try to get others worked up in a revolt of some sort.... I am trying to guage what others know from playing the other games and seeing for themselves and figure out if it's the just and the right thing to do (for me) to ask for my money back! I can only guess how hard others work at making the "magic" happen... (although one man whose work I do know, love and respect comes to mind... Jonathan Blokes) and each of his are nothing like one another, other than the subject matter of the supernatural.

Which brings me to another question... ARE they giving money back based on this "faux-pax"??
Thanks for any input into these question I have been pondering upon reading the post.
Your with hugs and prayers...
Hank and Syra


Posted by: sierramindy

Re: Message from Tri Synergy about Limbo of the Lost - 06/25/08 11:23 AM

Hi Hanksdog,
Since you bought the game in good faith not knowing anything about all of this controversy, why not relax and just play the game? None of this is your fault so why agonize over it?
What I keep wondering about is that maybe the original screens were in the "public domain" (not copyrighted) and free to anyone who wanted to use them. There are several sites around to help beginners with their games.