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True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam

Posted By: Marian

True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 12:19 AM

You can find it here.

I think this game will eventually make its way to Big Fish, so I am going to wait. I did want to let others know, though, that at long last the game is out, just in case you wanted to pick it up now. ghost2 Jackpumpkin
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 12:22 AM

Thanks Marian! I held off for ages on buying the first game since I read it didn't have a proper ending. Eventually Steam had it so cheap I couldn't resist. Of course, I have not played it yet anyway.
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 12:31 AM

If anyone gets the game from Steam and plays it, I will be interested to hear what they think. Hard to believe that the first game came out on Big Fish in 2014. It's been a long wait. Frankie
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 02:40 AM

Thanks for the news, Marian!

Ana wave
Posted By: TLC

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 04:56 PM

I never heard of this game. I found both on Steam and couldn't resist buying them. Just started the first one and think I'm going to love them. Thanks Marian. joy wavegirl
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 05:31 PM

The first game was really loved by our forum members here, TLC - I think you will enjoy it. happydance

And by the way, just to let people know, the first game is also available on Big Fish here. Jackpumpkin

I also read elsewhere that the developer hopes to ultimately make this series a trilogy. blackkitty
Posted By: Winfrey

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 10:16 PM

I also read on their Facebook page that they were going to be doing updates to the game I think I will wait for a while and let them get the game updated before buying
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 10:27 PM

I guess I'm almost a quarter of the way through. Judging from the directions, the game also can be played with a controller.

I'm so thoroughly hooked that I only stopped because I became thoroughly stumped and bamboozled yet I refuse to look at the guide* because thus far True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part Two is worth savoring and keeps me from reading the news while biting my fingernails.

The graphics surpass those in the first game by several powers, and the adventuring is more complex. The set-up is reminiscent of the opening of an MCF I liked in that a team of paranormal investigators preceded our heroine's mysterious appearance. The setting is an ostensibly long abandoned Art Deco asylum. Medical grunge is not slowing me down. That is saying something; in general I favor beauty over poking through detritus in and around a derelict institution, never mind that architecturally the buildings have good bones. Plenty of real bones here, heh, heh, heh.

*Come to think of it, I'm not sure there is a guide yet. I'll check.
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 10:30 PM

That sounds great, 8dognight. I also read that, unlike the first game, the sequel has no hidden object scenes.
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 10:44 PM

Sounds real good. I'd like to know if it has some type of proper ending (so that IF the 3rd part is never released...). I prefer to be forewarned!
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/03/18 11:19 PM

That I don't know yet, Oldbroad.

The first game had an excellent Twilight Zone twist ending that stood on its own narrative legs and simultaneously teased a sequel.
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 12:29 AM

Oh, so the first one did have some type of ending? I thought it just left you hanging somehow.
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 12:38 AM

If Goblinz had not teazed--spelled with a "z" in honor of the company name--with a phrase on the order of "to be continued" at the conclusion of Part One, it would have stood on its twisted, curlicued, and spiraling own much as Shadow Shelter from Nevosoft does.
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 01:10 AM

Thank you for that information!
Posted By: TLC

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 02:39 PM

Oh, I didn't know the first one was at BigFish. I'm surprised I never found it there. duh bat
Posted By: Sparkle

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 04:53 PM

I recall playing the first one. Good and spooky. I'm in on this one.
Posted By: Mad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 05:25 PM

I have True Fear : Forsaken Souls in my Big Fish collection.

Is this sequel not coming to Big Fish then ??

EDIT :

oops Sorry .... Just saw your earlier post, Marian !!
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 07:42 PM

Do not ignore the journal which contains the case file, clues, or journey notes. All are helpful and interesting.
Posted By: exalthim2

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 08:37 PM

Thanks Marian. I was just wondering about this game. As always, you are on it.
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/04/18 11:32 PM

You are welcome. smile

I would like to say that looking over the Steam forum for the game, there appear to be some bugs that players may or may not encounter. Just a heads up for those who would prefer to wait a while for the patch that will almost certainly be released.
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/05/18 01:40 PM

Marian, I just looked at Goblinz's Facebook page this morning. Facebook is not something I use; I got off in late 2016. Anyway, I avoided signing up, read the Goblinz page, and learned they made a HOG for BFG in 2012 called Mystery Valley, which is not related to True Fear: Forsaken Souls but was quite successful. The Goblinz website has a link to BFG to try the game for PC so I'm downloading. HOGs aren't my thing but every now and then one grabs me so I'm giving it a whirl.
Posted By: BrownEyedTigre

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/05/18 02:11 PM

8dognight, it was released in 2010 and we announced it here.

Ana wave
Posted By: Winfrey

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/06/18 03:59 AM

That’s why I’m waiting they talk about the bugs and the updates that are coming
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/06/18 06:32 AM

Originally Posted By: 8dognight
Marian, I just looked at Goblinz's Facebook page this morning. Facebook is not something I use; I got off in late 2016. Anyway, I avoided signing up, read the Goblinz page, and learned they made a HOG for BFG in 2012 called Mystery Valley, which is not related to True Fear: Forsaken Souls but was quite successful. The Goblinz website has a link to BFG to try the game for PC so I'm downloading. HOGs aren't my thing but every now and then one grabs me so I'm giving it a whirl.


There's actually a reference to Mystery Valley in the original True Fear: Forsaken Souls. You see a book in the kitchen called Mystery Valley and a comment is made about it. smile
Posted By: exalthim2

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/07/18 05:19 AM

Mystrery Valley was a great game. Think I'll play it again. Thanks guys
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/08/18 03:22 PM

Ana and Marian, thanks for the information.

Steam has a long discussion of what is going on in the game from people who obviously pay more attention to story lines in games than I generally do so I have started over. This is one to make notes on both for puzzles and continuity.

From the thread, I gleaned that
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Rosemary's Baby
was the inspiration for the very talented person who wrote the game through all three episodes in around 30 hours. I definitely got a
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revenge of the goddess vibe with the triplets as maiden, mother, and hag
along with a spooky
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time travel/parallel yet metaphysical universe
feeling that reminds me Dean Koontz's Christopher Snow novels, two of my favorites of his books.
Posted By: TLC

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/08/18 09:32 PM

I bought both on Steam. The first one ran great and loved it. The second one has a bug, where I can't use inventory items and asking for a refund. cry
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/08/18 11:01 PM

Sorry about that, TLC. I am sure the game will be patched but if you don't want to wait for that, a refund is the best thing to do.
Posted By: TLC

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/08/18 11:24 PM

It said it was patched. duh They gave me a refund. dance I'll wait till its on BigFish. wavegirl
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/08/18 11:52 PM

It sounds like the game is probably going to need more than one patch, then. Glad you got a refund. smile
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/09/18 02:55 PM

I recollect reading that multiple patches are expected not just for glitches but to add content.

The first time, where I got part way through before deciding to start over, I had to skip a puzzle nested in an interesting voyage through staff email because I encountered a small glitch when I
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sent someone's draft before printing their attachment so while the letter and attachment still appeared in the original file, the attachment would not print. I am now a little concerned that maybe I shouldn't have clicked send on any of the drafts I so inconsiderately have sent from dead people. It was irresistible.

Other than that, the cursor will sometimes become invisible when I forget to keep dragging around puzzle pieces,
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particularly for the black and white sketch on multiple sheets of paper in the hospital room with the music box.
This is easy to fix. Just keep moving the mouse until the diary in the bottom left corner lights up, then click. The diary will pop up, so click on the X at the top right of the diary to minimize it and the cursor will reappear in the puzzle on the screen.

The main creative force behind the game is Dimmie Azu. True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 is now on my top five list of casual games and may make my top ten of all adventure games.

My initial response to
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the Rosemary's Baby inspiration was: Take that patriarchal devil worshipers. The tripartite goddess is woke, so cower before us.

(On rereading the previous sentence, I keep channeling or rather imagining my actual mother, a hoity-toity minor goddess of grammar herself, saying, "Awakened. The tripartite goddess has awakened if there were such a thing.")

I don't know if my riff on the archetypes will be borne out. I liked the idea as a twist when it occurred to me as I am sure it will to many other players.
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/10/18 02:51 PM

I checked the opening screen and I don't see a guide. The extra episode screen tells me that one is coming in an update.

Nevertheless I'm glad to have jumped on Part 2 at release.

I haven't enjoyed a casual game this much in I don't know how long, and as I mentioned Part 2 stands up fairly well against most regular adventure games. I get the impression that Dimmie Azu has distanced himself from casual adventure game writing and planning in the seven years intervening between the marathon 30 hours that produced the initial story or bare bones design document or whatever amalgam it was. Fingers crossed Goblinz will finish and release the third game. We all know how ill-fated such plans can be. Holly Stonehouse may wind up chained in the bowels of a corporate dungeon next to Gabriel Knight.*

Oldbroad, Part 2 has a less decisive ending than Part 1. Although the Part 2 ending is foreshadowed, at least in retrospect I can see it was and by definition foreshadowing is retrospective anyway, don't expect motivations and explanations to be tidied up.
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I still am unclear about a lot of elements. Among them: all the stuff under the house in Part 1; the significance of the 6:46 train references in Part 2; the occasional convulsive head movements which may indicate possession or time travel or brainwashing or maybe all of those
so if you figure them out, please, post.

I think I know
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who SHE or HER is; however, telling players in this episode would ruin the story arc, I doubt there are easily decipherable hints.


*ETA: Chris Jones and Access Software eventually paroled Tex Murphy so if Goblinz doesn't get sold or dissolved or forever lost to other genres, I'm thinking TFFS 3 has a pretty good chance.
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/10/18 04:54 PM

Thanks for all your info 8dognight. I haven't even bought Part 2 yet and still haven't played Part 1 either. I don't necessarily care about a "decisive" ending. I just don't like a game with NO ending (such as Runaway 2). Some people thought Syberia 3 ended on a cliffhanger but I thought it was properly finished and left room for another game.
Posted By: TLC

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/10/18 08:07 PM

The game was patched again yesterday. So I bought it again and its working now. joy
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/10/18 11:10 PM

I hope it will be trouble free for you now, TLC. wave
Posted By: TLC

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/11/18 12:58 AM

Thanks Marian. I emailed the company told them about my problem and they said they'd be releasing another patch yesterday. joy
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/11/18 04:04 PM

In True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part One, some breaking the fourth wall humor I don't remember noticing before: among the books on the mantelpiece are the following titles: Emblems: Saving the Lack of Imagination; Emblem Locked Furniture: Where Do You Buy Those?; and Emblem Locked Doors: Really?
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/11/18 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: 8dognight
In True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part One, some breaking the fourth wall humor I don't remember noticing before, among the books on the mantelpiece are the following titles: Emblems: Saving the Lack of Imagination; Emblem Locked Furniture: Where Do You Buy Those?; and Emblem Locked Doors: Really?


Now that's funny. I don't remember seeing those either. laugh
Posted By: Mad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/11/18 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: TLC
Thanks Marian. I emailed the company told them about my problem and they said they'd be releasing another patch yesterday.


Sincerely hope that by the time this game is available from Big Fish it is totally bug free !! whistle
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/11/18 06:07 PM

I agree, Mad. I do think odds are that it will be fine by the time it gets to Big Fish. wave
Posted By: TLC

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/11/18 07:49 PM

Mad & Marian, it seems to be running fine now. joy So I have a feeling it will, when it gets to BigFish. penguin
Posted By: Mad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/12/18 02:07 PM

That's what we will all want !! laugh
Posted By: Leeana

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/13/18 07:37 PM

So I go through my jacket and low and behold there is a lil bit of Money,... saturday deposited it ...then came across a game here bought it from steam and Please I must - Must Tell you!!!, Im so excited to say Finally, its the kind of Game I have waited for,... for such a long, long time, the pleasure Im getting from this game was well worth the money ..... I just passed a part with a
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peephole
.....scared the Bee-Gee-bees outta me LOVED IT never was I ready for that it was the Best!, so far, so Good I really Love games like this .... gotta go back and play some more Trust me this game is very well worth the Money ...... Im going back now .....too excited to stop ...Thank You Gameboomers for the mention of this Game for if I didnt see it I would be so gloomy now waiting for more Nancy Drew
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/13/18 07:40 PM

Hi Leeana, we have been talking about this game in this Casual Games thread, so I have moved your post over here so that other players can read it. wave
Posted By: Leeana

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/13/18 07:45 PM

Thank You Im so Sorry
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/13/18 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Leeana
Thank You Im so Sorry


No need to be sorry! I am really glad that you posted about the game.

I will be picking it up for sure when it arrives on Big Fish. smile
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/14/18 04:41 PM

The journalist leaves
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a tape labelled Roman numeral I although it's not the first one Holly finds. He says someone is moving in the tank but that's not possible because it hasn't been opened in ages and can't be opened. How does he know that?

What tank? Where?

One of the boiler room tanks?

A boiler room tank doesn't make sense unless one of those is not part of the furnace or SHE can live in flames.


As far as I recall that very concrete reference is not explained or alluded to elsewhere.

Can someone else who has played through clear this up or tell me if another reference or the object itself exists in the game world?

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Is a tweaked sensory deprivation tank part of the time travel or astral projection achieving tenuous reality experiment?


I did not see the object mentioned in the Steam discussions; maybe I missed it.

ETA: The journalist
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could have been hallucinating, sure. In terms of narrative, that doesn't make much sense because other sequences with apparently hallucinatory elements are real within the game world and have genuine impact on the story.


ETA again: All those
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tunnels
in both games have some significance.
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/21/18 06:08 PM

Facebook probably has a multitude of theories I haven't so much as glanced at and won't as a matter principle. I feel hypocritical enough after looking at it once.

Even so, I have now read so many suggestions on both games on Steam I am surprised I have not seen one--inspired by Hinduism, Terry Pratchett, and Stephen King--positing that Grandpa David was a demiurge and had custody of the elephants supporting the earth from the back of the world tortoise.
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/21/18 10:20 PM

I apologize for going on and on. I seem to have the caught the bug.

In Act 3 of Part 1 after returning to Holly's childhood home, we apparently are adjacent to somewhere else,
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somewhere other than under the house after shattering the wall with the red cistern tank. In the first screen beyond the rubble, on the upper right beyond an arched glassless window are blue sky, what looks like part of a wooden roof, and closer to us a gargoyle with outstretched wings on a pedestal outdoors. Is that the remnant of a trompe l'oeil mural or an actual vista? Then on the upper left of the basement cemetery screen starting behind the gargoyle holding the ashes and going almost all the way to the far left hand corner, light streams in from 3 sources nowhere in evidence on the exterior of the house. These rays are not from the well with a deeply redessed cap that will only be broken later. The rays come from the other side of the house, either on Laudius's property line or wherever the cemetery really is if, in fact, it is elsewhere. The left exterior might be on the Laudius side and the right, elsewhere or elsewhen or both.


I haven't seen discussion of this and my eyes aren't all that sharp, so if you have an explanation, please, fill me in.

(Description of screen edited for clarity)
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/21/18 10:21 PM

And I am sorry that I can't comment on any of this, as I am still waiting to play the game.
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/21/18 10:24 PM

I was asking about Part 1.
Posted By: Marian

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/21/18 10:49 PM

Originally Posted By: 8dognight
I was asking about Part 1.


Ah, my mistake. Unfortunately I would need to replay Part One in order to comment on your questions. I have only played it the one time when it was first released. I only remember bits and pieces of it now. Will have to replay it in the coming weeks.
Posted By: oldbroad

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/21/18 10:58 PM

I haven't played either game yet but I'm quite sure I would never observe any of this. I just play.
Posted By: 8dognight

Re: True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2 (the Sequel) Released on Steam - 11/29/18 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Marian
Originally Posted By: 8dognight
In True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part One, some breaking the fourth wall humor I don't remember noticing before, among the books on the mantelpiece are the following titles: Emblems: Saving the Lack of Imagination; Emblem Locked Furniture: Where Do You Buy Those?; and Emblem Locked Doors: Really?


Now that's funny. I don't remember seeing those either. laugh


In TFFS2 well into Act 2, the author through his player character remarks when she picks up an emblem:
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"I sure didn't miss these things."
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