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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Jenny100] #1078247
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Thanks Jenny. It was taking too long so I cancelled the download, and I won't be finishing the download.

I have an additional 10GB of download if I do it between 2am and 8am, which I never use. If I do, I'll try and get up early for it because I'm not staying up until 2am.

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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1088076
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In case anyone is interested, here's an earlier article from Rock, Paper, Shotgun on the DRM/Windows 10 issue which has a couple links to solutions to getting around the SafeDisc DRM issue. The solutions are somewhat tweaky, but doable for someone with a bit of techie knowledge.

Windows 10 Won’t Run Games Using SafeDisc Or Securom DRM


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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1088085
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Really interesting, but as you say "tweaky" or "fiddley." Not sure it it's worth the risk! But then I look at the hundreds of dollars of unplayable games I have and it really ticks me off that all I can do is hope GOG or STEAM releases them in a non-DRM format.


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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1088530
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
Really interesting, but as you say "tweaky" or "fiddley." Not sure it it's worth the risk! But then I look at the hundreds of dollars of unplayable games I have and it really ticks me off that all I can do is hope GOG or STEAM releases them in a non-DRM format.


Quite so .

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1088587
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Keep in mind that the early versions of SafeDisc and SecuROM that didn't use the secdrv.sys driver won't be affected by whether the driver is present and signed or not. So if a game is old enough to be using a version of SafeDisc or SecuROM that doesn't use the secdrv.sys driver, and the older game doesn't work on your computer, it's due to some reason other than secdrv.sys not being signed.

For example, Mystery of the Druids is from 2001 and used SafeDisc v2. But if it doesn't work on your Windows 10 computer, test-signing the secdrv.sys driver isn't likely to help because SafeDisc v2 didn't use secdrv.sys.

That doesn't mean the DRM isn't somehow preventing the game from playing, only that signing the secdrv.sys driver won't help (while a NoCD might help).

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1099100
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I want to know if there is a fix for Myst IV on windows because I have a problem that whenever I try to launch the game on windows 10 it will not even open.

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Attaboy20] #1099103
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Originally Posted By: Attaboy20
I want to know if there is a fix for Myst IV on windows because I have a problem that whenever I try to launch the game on windows 10 it will not even open.

That is probably because of the DRM.
Google for a patch or NoCD for your version of the game.

At one point Ubisoft themselves had a "patch" that removed the SafeDisc DRM, but Ubisoft rearranged their website so the old link won't work anymore. It used to be located at
http://help.support.ubi.com/mystIV_v12_ncd.zip
but the link hasn't worked for years.
This patch may not work with later versions of the game anyway.
There are NoCD's for different versions though.

Even if you get rid of the SafeDisc DRM, there might be some other conflict with Windows 10. But the DRM on Myst IV makes even trying to get it to work a non-starter unless you have a NoCD.

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1099110
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And I believe Myst IV Revelation is the only one available for download at GOG.


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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1099111
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
And I believe Myst IV Revelation is the only one available for download at GOG.

Myst III is not available either, but you may be able to play it using ResidualVM, which skips using the DRM-crippled game .exe.

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Jenny100] #1100165
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Originally Posted By: Attaboy20
I want to know if there is a fix for Myst IV on windows because I have a problem that whenever I try to launch the game on windows 10 it will not even open.

That is probably because of the DRM.
Google for a patch or NoCD for your version of the game.

At one point Ubisoft themselves had a "patch" that removed the SafeDisc DRM, but Ubisoft rearranged their website so the old link won't work anymore. It used to be located at
http://help.support.ubi.com/mystIV_v12_ncd.zip
but the link hasn't worked for years.
This patch may not work with later versions of the game anyway.
There are NoCD's for different versions though.

Even if you get rid of the SafeDisc DRM, there might be some other conflict with Windows 10. But the DRM on Myst IV makes even trying to get it to work a non-starter unless you have a NoCD.
Go to the internet archive website and see if someone saved it EDIT: No one saved it there

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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1100167
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I have checked the archives but no one saved a copy so i was unable to reach it, However i did find a link Download the 1.0 to 1.02 patch and use that first and then the 1.02 patch to 1.03 patch: http://patches.ubi.com/myst_4_revelation/

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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1100169
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Those patches are from 2004 and at least up to version 1.02 would not have removed the SafeDisc.

There was a NoCD offered by Ubisoft that worked with version 1.02 but not 1.03.

It was called mystIV_v12_ncd.zip and you used to be able to download it from
http://help.support.ubi.com/mystIV_v12_ncd.zip
but they no longer offer it and it wasn't archived at the web archive.

I've uploaded it to Dropbox *** here ***

If you want to use it, you'll have to uninstall the game, then install up to version 1.02
Don't install 1.03 if you want to use this NoCD.

There are other NoCD's for version 1.03 from other websites you can find with Google, but they are not the one from Ubisoft.

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1100205
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Hi fellow Boomers,
There was mention of the Syberia 1 and 2 problems of not launching in Win 10 machines. I still have the original boxed versions of both.I installed them successfully (full install), but neither would launch on my Win 10 pc. I recently acquired the NoCd fixes, applied them, and now both games are now running perfectly.
For any of you who have those games on your shelf, and would like to replay them, I'd be glad to send the Nocd fixes to you via -mail, along with specific instructions. HAPPY GAMING!
BTW, Zodiac has the Syberia pack on sale for $3.39 right now.
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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1100237
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Great news Sanford, I am sure a lot of people who have the boxed version and Love their box versions of games will be happy to know that these games can work in W10.

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Attaboy20] #1100365
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Hi Attaboy20,
I also have the original boxed version of Myst 4, and after installing the game, downloading those patches and installing them one by one, my game (version 1.03) is running perfectly. The disc MUST be in your cd/dvd drive to play, and your compatibility settings I found that work best are:WINDOWS 98/WWINDOWS ME mode, Put a checkmark on DISABLE DISPLAY SETTINGS, and a checkmark on RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR.
I hope this works for you.
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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1107681
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this but I found a fix for American McGees Alice that works. Here is a link to the fix. http://www.play-old-pc-games.com/2014/02/09/american-mcgees-alice/


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Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: JohnBoy] #1107683
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Thanks so much for posting this, JB, and I believe that you posted this in the right place. wave

I hope all is well with you - nice to see you here. smile

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1124131
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Here are suggestions from the How-To Geek on getting old games running on Windows 10.

https://www.howtogeek.com/228689/how-to-make-old-programs-work-on-windows-10/

Re: Windows 10 and Games [Re: Draclvr] #1124138
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