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Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156002
07/05/18 08:35 AM
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If 13th Skull had fewer ugly HOs, it would be an all time favorite of mine.

Look carefully at the newspaper articles. They also show care in detail. In New Orleans the Bee was a broadsheet then paper of record, not started until 1827 but who cares. That was the actual masthead. Also read the hilarious articles in the paper next to Cooter's mailbox. That paper probably existed, too. I didn't check. I knew about the Bee so I looked up publication dates.

Across the board the delivery of standard issue casual adventure lines on the order of "if you find my X, I will help you with Y" is remarkably polished. Cooter and his wife work as over the top caricatures with a hair--a greasy hair--of pathos. Even the little girl, Magnolia, sounds natural once past the opening cutscene. The woman who owns the bar and the nebbishy librarian sparkle with individuality. Mary Lee is believable and oddly familiar. Major and minor characters without exception are all skilled enough to create immersion, that illusive willing suspension of disbelief.

I wish BFG would spring for more games with human actors. Seems to me an Arriflex or whatever people use nowadays, sound equipment, some talented drama students, and a few bored retired actors would fit the bill. They wouldn't need to speak unaccented English. Even before the break-up of the Eastern Bloc, promising films came out of Eastern Europe. There must be plenty of young people looking for experience who will work cheap. The actors speak directly to the camera, meaning directly to the audience/player, so setting up shots isn't complicated.

I liked the acting in Mystery Case Files: Shadow Lake, too.

Nevosoft, which I gather is based in Russia, had fabulous voice acting in Vampireville. Maybe they can do a game with live actors.

Pipe dreams, I guess, like putting on a show in the barn.



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Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156044
07/05/18 03:16 PM
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Well, this puzzle has kind of ruined this game for me. I used the 3 available hints which did not tell me to do anything different than what I was already trying to do, so I moved on to the walkthrough, which did explain what I was trying to accomplish, however, I found it impossible to pull the chains down far enough for them to reveal what needed to be revealed. I was only able to get one of them and had to "skip" the puzzle. I feel this was poor puzzle design, but I suppose that is just my opinion that maybe I am stating out of disappointment and 5 hours or so (on just this puzzle) of frustration. duh

I accomplished everything else up to this point with no help at all.

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: oldbroad] #1156045
07/05/18 03:24 PM
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Well, I think you did very well. I don't remember the puzzle you are describing as it's been too long since I played the game, though.

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156048
07/05/18 04:11 PM
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Thanks Marian! You're always so supportive and always make me feel better! flowers

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: oldbroad] #1156051
07/05/18 04:39 PM
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Just speaking the truth, oldbroad. hug

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Marian] #1156181
07/07/18 02:00 AM
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I finished the first "Legacy" game - which I SO liked. And have now started the second. And am very happy to find it is in exactly the same style thumbsup

Lovely !!

So I know I will enjoy this one too !! happydance


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Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156185
07/07/18 02:52 AM
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That's great Mad. I do have both of those games in my "to be played" pile.

I finished MCF: 13th Skull today and am going back to my adventure games for now.

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: oldbroad] #1156349
07/09/18 02:42 AM
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That's great, oldbroad thumbsup

Also .. a confirmation .. I am finding the 2nd "Legacy" game just as good as the 1st !! yay



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Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156727
07/13/18 01:19 PM
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Finished the second one now, too, and think both were excellent. Will certainly re-play them at some time bravo


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Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156732
07/13/18 01:29 PM
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Glad you enjoyed those games. So what's next on the agenda then Mad?

I started Angelica Weaver: Catch Me When You Can last night.

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: oldbroad] #1156746
07/13/18 02:06 PM
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I've started "Secrets of the Dark : Mystery of the Ancestral Estate" which is a totally different concept AND needs more thinking about lol


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Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156765
07/13/18 05:48 PM
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As I recall, all the Secrets of the Dark games have that extra twist. It keeps things interesting. yes

I hope you enjoy Angelica Weaver, oldbroad.

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Marian] #1156817
07/14/18 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Marian
As I recall, all the Secrets of the Dark games have that extra twist. It keeps things interesting. yes



Oh, good, because I discovered another in the series that I hadn't played - so bought it in the latest sale !!

Thanks, Marian grin


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Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1156861
07/14/18 09:56 PM
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Thanks Marian. I can't say I'm smitten with Angelica Weaver. I don't particularly care for the way she talks. I don't like the way she nods her head when you pick something up. I didn't care too much for the "follow the footprints" puzzle. I did it but I thought it went on a little longer than it needed to. There is a puzzle where you stack up a bunch of items to climb up to a window that nobody in their right mind would ever climb on (which I'm okay with) but, I guess it's a physics puzzle which I don't care for and I "skipped" it after only a short time, which is something I rarely do. It just felt like a senseless waste of my time. But I'll finish the game, of course. smile

I guess someday I'll find out about the "extra twist" in the Secrets of the Dark games. I have them in my vast library. I do hope you're enjoying yourself Mad. wave

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: oldbroad] #1156865
07/14/18 10:27 PM
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I remember when the game came out that some people said they didn't like the way Angelica nodded; I rather liked it. I do remember that footsteps puzzle and I didn't make it through without hints. And yes, of course you will finish the game. grin

Re: Out with the Old, In with the New [Re: Mad] #1157089
07/16/18 10:45 PM
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I didn't use any hints for the footprint puzzle but was happy to see it didn't throw me back to the beginning of the puzzle when I clicked on a wrong footstep.

I just finished the game. All in all, I liked it. I can't even say anything bad about the physics puzzle. It may be a good puzzle; just not my thing. Had I been in a different frame of mind, maybe I would have spent more time on it or maybe looked at the walkthrough to see the order of the items and then at least tried longer to solve the puzzle, while only having to deal with moving the items but not moving them AND trying to figure out the order.

The way Angelica talked and the head nodding probably wouldn't have fazed me except the way you (Marian) said "I hope you enjoy Angelica Weaver, oldbroad." made me start analyzing the game. The one thing I did not like though, was that they kept saying Cicero, Chicago. No! No! No! Cicero is a suburb of Chicago; it is not Chicago!!! shocked

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