===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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By way of reminder, the object of this game is to solve (and briefly explain) the clue presented by the previous poster and then set your own clue. Anything from the (worldwide) crossword arena is acceptable by way of clue style, but if you stray too far from the pure path beware the scourge of... Pandora's WET NOODLE! The puzzle could be an old favourite or something of your own making. Don't be shy: this is for everyone, not just the old hands! For those unfamiliar with crossword clues who want to give it a try, there is plenty of guidance online and a quite entertaining and instructive book (not just for beginners) available from amazon http://www.amazon.com/The-Times-Crack-Cryptic-Crosswords/dp/0007546521/ref=dp_ob_image_bk and no doubt elsewhere, and for those who like British Crosswords you may like to try these (which are free): http://www.theguardian.com/crosswords.There is nothing to prevent (say) a couple of related clues if offering a single clue cramps your style. If there are multiple answers involved, there is no restriction against one person solving all and the solver of the final clue/part is the one who goes next. Obviously you need to await confirmation of a correct answer before posting your own puzzle, but please then do so reasonably promptly: if having answered correctly you are not going to be able to set a follow-up clue within about the next 18 hours, please pass your turn to someone else so that the game does not stall. To save the poor demented solvers from excessive brain damage , you should consider revealing one letter of the answer when the question is set, unless the answer is very short/easy so that provision of a letter hint at the outset would spoil the sport! If no-one is biting within about 24 hours you should start dropping additional hints. To try to give everyone a fair crack of the whip, the immediately previous setter is asked not to post a solution to the current clue within the first 24 hours. The weighty trophy to be passed to whoever solves your clue is the jewel-encrusted World Clue Federation Championship Belt ===[**WCF**]=== Constructive criticism and cheerful badinage are to be expected, not to mention a certain amount of national rivalry, but above all, have a bit of fun! Next clue to follow shortly.
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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Thank you, Lex! All there is in this anesthetic (4)
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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thiS ANEsthetic all there = sane !! We're all here because we're not all there
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Here's your belt, Denis. I promise it's all there! ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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Presumably rousing, being gin sour reversed or anagrammed with sour as indicator, but why sour-sour? If two separate indicators, presumably one is for gin and one is for sour, but I am not sure what that does to improve the clue.
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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sour-SOUR: ROUSing : sour is indicator, rearranging SOUR to ROUS
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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à votre santé! Frolic about in retro vacation (6)
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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Thanks, Lex! At least it'll look right as I'm admiring myself in the mirror. Clumsy writer turned around in it (5)
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Here you go, Rog. I fixed it. No inept belt for you! ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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Thanks, Cheryl! A group on leave (7) - no Es
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Feel free to wear this with abandon, Denis! :===[**WCF**]===
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Being delivered by The Ottawa Bus Lines: ===[**WCF**]===
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Thank you, Denis! Lots of hemorrhoids (5)
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Denis, it seems you're as familiar with hemorrhoids as you are with this belt! ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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I also knew but thought I would let someone else display his/her unfortunate medical knowledge!
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Thanks Cheryl.
In gay Paris, starts with a pill (7) no e
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Thanks, Denis! With luck, this might cause the odd headache:
Biscuit on pamphlet revealing food processing layout (9,5) - two e's
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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Good one, Lex - one belt being fast-tract to the IoM ===[**WCF**]===
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Thank you UW: I did have to cudgel my brains somewhat to come up with tract, but the biscuit had to be digestive! Fought against mineral racket once (10) - four vowels of which two are e
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Wordplay 7 + 3
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battledore (Never heard of this before.)
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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Correct on both counts missy! If had foxed me until I remembered it being an old word for shuttlecock and then found that it was also once the name for a badminton racket.
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Many thanks! Pet vomits a green plant (5) 1 e
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Our cat vomits grass, which is a green plant, but I cannot otherwise justify that answer...! (first piles, now pet vomit: is this a reflection of what is going on in the Sherlock household?)
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Good answer, ccbomber! ===[**WCF**]=== Lex, just looking for some comic relief in between the shoveling and snow blowing! Spring will come, won't it?
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Nice fit! One candy lover is cheesy mother of all munsters (6,2,5)
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Nothing cheesy about that answer, Denis ===[**WCF**]===
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do MA in ?? Execute = do in ??????
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Yepper! ===[**WCF**]===
do in verb Definition of do in 1a : to bring about the defeat or destruction of //a businessman done in by greed also : kill b : exhaust, wear out
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If you want to do your head in, I have belatedly discovered another free source of quite neat crosswords https://www.ft.com/crossword
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Thank 'ee, Denis!
Church role in generating gas (8) - a single e
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Hokay -
Direct on the right, one indicator, wordplay 2 + 6
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CH(urch) lorine=role in; indicator = generating ; nice clue!
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Merci, Den - a gas of a belt approaching : ===[**WCF**]===
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YESSSS! Don't drink too much jake while wearing this: ===[**WCF**]===
Dictionary.com: jake adjective Slang. 1 satisfactory; OK; fine:
noun Slang. 1a homemade or bootleg liquor made from or infused with Jamaica ginger, especially during Prohibition in the U.S.
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Thank you, Denis! Just a bit hung over from the jake! They cleverly arrange to provide perfume and color (8) no e's
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Yes, Cue! They do some clever arranging. I should send a bouquet of flowers along with this belt! ===[**WCF**]===
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I'm not sure how the &lit clue is supposed to work so I'm no help Poor position receives demand from tyrant (9) one e
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op PRESS or ? opor = poor, position = anagram indicator?
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Position this around your midsection, Denis ===[**WCF**]===
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Better sage than onion! Brilliant journey down from Machu Picchu, say? (12) e>1
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You couldn't imperuve on that answer... ===[**WCF**]===
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Thanks, Lex! Discharge bank teller (7) 1 e
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Cha-Ching! Here’s a deposit. ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/23/19 07:50 AM
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Merci, merci, merci...
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/24/19 04:07 PM
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This'll aid reducing the bulge around yer waist ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/24/19 05:18 PM
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Thanks, Denis! Small wild deer took fish and ran off (9) - a coupla Es
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/25/19 03:47 PM
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Hint time:
Direct on the right Wordplay 1+4+4, two indicators Word mostly used in the UK One other vowel, an "a" ccvccvcvc
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/26/19 12:28 PM
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Cheryl - much as I would love to give it to you for an almost perfect solve, the Three-legged Man has come up trumps. Nice one, Lex! ===[**WCF**]===
To waste one second of one's life is a betrayal of one's self. I wonder what's on television...?
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/26/19 01:25 PM
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Gratefully received! Stylish woman making first appearance, broadcasting (8)
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/27/19 11:19 AM
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But, then I found that camp is actually a synonym of fish so I went with that. Go figure. Ah - hadn't realised that. That's one I owe you, Cheryl
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/28/19 05:25 AM
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I was sufficiently intrigued to try to find reference to camp as a type or synonym of fish, but could not although I did turn up this misleading search result (click on the link and it fails to show any joinder of meaning): Camp out - definition of camp out by The Free Dictionary https://www.thefreedictionary.com/camp+outDefine camp out. camp out synonyms, camp out pronunciation, camp out ... kind of fish dwells near the bottom of the ocean"; "deer are populating the woods" ...
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/28/19 05:31 AM
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Overdue time for hints: apologies! Direct on left, cvcvcvvc, all letters different, wordplay 3 (abbreviation) + 2 + 3
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
[Re: Lex]
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03/28/19 04:20 PM
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DEB on air !
Strange: found it in thesaurus.com as synonym of stylish, BUT does not appear as such in the British Bradford's !
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/29/19 03:16 AM
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Denis the debonair - here is your stylish accoutrement: ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/30/19 09:06 AM
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Thank you, OrleansBelle! One old-fashioned way to get a marble (5) 1 e
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/30/19 01:04 PM
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Well, worth a try: agate ? a = one gate = old-fashioned way to get
gate3 noun Scot and Northern English dialect 2a: way or method of doing something
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/30/19 06:21 PM
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Close enough, Denis. Right answer. One = a + gate (old-fashioned way to "get a"). Took a little liberty there. Not really much of an anagram indicator but it sounded good. I'd put a marble in this, if I had one! ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/30/19 08:42 PM
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Ahhh...so sweet...
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/31/19 07:47 AM
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Your mam will be proud of you wearing this ===[**WCF**]===
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Re: ===[**WCF**]=== Chain Crypt
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03/31/19 11:50 AM
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Thank you kind sir! Next clue on new thread.
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