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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: copper] #1186809
05/21/19 06:49 AM
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yes, she definitely had a lot of good thoughts. I have been really worried that this tenant from hell would pull something more. Please, an update!

Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187103
05/25/19 02:01 PM
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Sooo the update finally on why I've not been around. SHE definitely pulled another clever stalling technique. Sheriff was all ready to do the lockout and instead they called me to advise that SHE had filed some paperwork for her disabled son (27 yrs). I had made a very bad decision early on in the process and did not list him on the complaint, did not sue him. How can you sue a disabled mentally guy who isn't even a signer to the agreement? I considered him like the minor kid and never thought of doing a lawsuit against a person who the mom had told me could NOT sign any documents. and I thought he might not be capable of knowing what was happening.

In any case, the Sheriff gave me a head's up on what was happening and gave me a 2 hour head start to get to the courthouse and file for an Ex Parte meeting. (Emergency hearing). I did that and told the Mom to be sure to bring her son (it was HIS name on the paperwork). He (with mom's assistance) had signed what's called a "Claim to Possession". My fault for not suing him in the first place. Now it's a big mess. HE is claiming rights to stay in the house even though mom and other son were due to be locked out. So I got him to the hearing I scheduled so the Judge would be able to see that he was indeed disabled and under his mom's care. Was very obvious when mom had to prompt him to say his name and to spell first and last. I felt very bad for the guy. He should never have been involved in this at all.

Then after we did that little bit, we had another real hearing scheduled for last Wednesday to determine if his 'claim' was valid. Instead of the hearing, Mom filed a 'motion' to be his Guardian Ad Litem. Legal term for her being allowed to speak for him and him not having to testify (or maybe not even be there). DARN. She is obviously being coached by a lawyer despite having none listed on the complaint. Very sneaky. She would never have known how to cancel a meeting by doing that motion bit. Sooooo the Judge granted her motion and delayed the meeting for TWO MORE WEEKS. Yeah. I'm forced to support a family of 3 for another 2 weeks without any compensation and back rent owed of over 4500 bucks now. And I still have to pay the water and trash bills. Water was included (didn't know she would wash every other day!) And trash, she managed to put in her name on Dec 1 and NEVER paid a cent, causing the city to advise me they would put a lien on my property if the total bill (almost 200 bucks) wasn't paid immediately. Yeah, that one got me. So I changed the trash back to my name so there would be no chance of that happening. More for me to pay.

So now I wait for June 3 to have the next and hopefully the last hearing on this eviction. Can't believe how she keeps one step ahead and keeps me from getting my house back and doesn't have to ever pay a penny. I have a judgment of 3300 against her but I will never collect. Nope.

AND I'm almost positive she has that legal aid lawyer assisting her at every turn. I think he was actually in the courtroom watching us testify and is probably plotting the next big move to thwart my efforts. Only guessed this was happening when I saw 3 lawyers going up the escalator to the courtroom and heard one of them say HER name to another one. Yeah, he was going to consult with her. I think they are being very covert and doing it by phone since she sat outside the courtroom until the Baliff went out to get her. She was on her phone the entire time. Very not fair when she gets help and I am all alone because I have zero money to hire a lawyer and nobody will do it for free for Landlords.

Big mess all around. Can't sleep, lost 30 lbs since December (looking GOOD) it's a perk of all this stress and no time to eat. That's the only up side. I'll update everyone after June 3 as to what I have to do next. Hopefully it will be just wait for the Sheriff to arrive but I'm not counting on it given all that's already happened. Terrible...just terrible and I'm operating on half my income now, with nothing left after I pay my credit and utility bills. Thank goodness my mortgage holder is being very understanding or I would already be losing my entire property including my own house that I've lived in for 40 years. I think SHE would love that. Seems to have a vendetta against me for daring to ask her to leave for not paying rent. Big Sigh.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187112
05/25/19 02:57 PM
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I'm sorry to hear this is still ongoing SortaBlonde sad

This makes no sense at all headscratch

I assume you are presenting the fact to the judge that this lady has not paid rent for two ... gosh is it three months now?

I wish you knew someone in the legal field to help you...

Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers wave2


PS ... I assume you have tried Legal Aid & Pro Bono lawyers?? think


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187114
05/25/19 03:37 PM
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I'm not sure how she can legally (or morally) use her son that way if he is as bad as you say. frown

Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187116
05/25/19 03:44 PM
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I had a feeling she had pulled out something at the last minute. I'm still failing to understand how the judge can consider that you are expected to take on this woman as a charity case and provide her with free rent... She obviously feels that you are obligated to support her and her family. Just don't get it.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187129
05/25/19 05:21 PM
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Thanks for thinking of me everyone. Still needing massive good energy for things to come. As for Pro Bono and Legal Aid. I sadly have discovered that NOBODY wants to do Pro Bono work for Landlords (only for Tenants). I personally called 8 different lawyers (some referred by Lawyer's referral service). No money in recovery from non-paying tenants. And of course everyone thinks that Landlords are RICH. Yeah, really they do. Because I managed to fall into a property that I rented for 20 years and then was offered at a very good time at a very good price, I became an Instant Landlord. Never wanted to be a Landlord. I never make a profit at the end of the year because I keep my rentals in great shape and don't overcharge. I like happy, nice tenants. Things were fine until this gal decided to embark on a campaign to ruin me emotionally and financially.

Legal Aid will not help Landlords. I was sooo surprised at that one. They will do everything they can for Tenants, but won't help me. I tried the legal aid clinics at the main courthouse and at the local one nearer me. They will hardly talk to you when you reveal you are a Landlord. It's shocking how they 'turn' on you when you say 'landlord'. Gads, I felt so rebuked. Called the MAIN Legal Aid Society for San Diego County and first question was, "are you a tenant or a landlord". Guess what they said after I said Landlord. "Sorry, we don't help Landlord's" Just like that period and when I asked where I could get help, they told me to hire a lawyer. Thanks a bunch.

I have no idea why she thinks I am a Social Service Agency that should support her and two grown boys. Not sure why the courts feel that way too since I've had limited success. Started this all in January when my Tenant said 'I loaned the rent money to a friend and she didn't pay it back' I almost fell over. Told her to get the money or else. Sent her the appropriate 3 day notice and HELPED her get more money from the relocation company by printing off the documents she needed to fax to them. Geez. I actually helped her and look what she's doing to me! But I did get the January payment, late. Then we had a BIG discussion about being sure February's rent was on time, etc. She assured me there would be no further problems. Then on Feb 1, nothing, Feb 2, I contacted her and got another huge mass of excuses. Nothing made sense. So another notice to her, then got her to voluntary send me a 30 day quit herself. Of course she lied and never intended to go. From there, more notices from me, and EXCUSE after excuse from her about how she couldn't find a place, had bad credit, almost got approved, needed a cosigner, had other interviews...on and on and on. Until I finally got the message and filed formal eviction on her on April 8. THEN it got worse. I should have filed right after January's payment was late. I could have, it's legal and it's in my contract. I was being way too forgiving and understanding.

She's really loving MY house and thinks it's hers. Making no effort to pack, condense, move. In fact early last week, she had ATT&T there again installing something extra for over 6 hours of the guy's time. Wonder what it was. Probably the $10.00 internet offer with free everything. She's not gonna leave until she is dragged out.

AND using her handicapped son as a weapon is really making me mad. It's working well, and whatever sneaky lawyer (not all lawyers are bad, don't take it wrong) is advising her how to stall the eviction time after time. I just want my house back so I can start making money again. She is doing everything she can to not let me survive and walks around like she hasn't a care in the world. Driving me nuts. Sometimes I just wanna....well you know...fill in your own...get even method here_____________________.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187130
05/25/19 06:19 PM
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Awww, Sorta, so sorry this nightmare has been going on for so long. Hugs


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187133
05/25/19 06:45 PM
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Yeah, L4L told me you tried the Pro Bono route earlier only to find out they normally do not help landlords ... wow, our legal system has really gotten out of balance in this arena.

I'm still shocked the judge expects you to give free rent ... that does not make any sense headscratch


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187140
05/25/19 08:29 PM
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What a load of legal BS. It is only a matter of time until the Karma Wheel rolls over her.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187143
05/25/19 08:58 PM
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So sorry to hear that Sorta. Sending positive thoughts!


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187152
05/25/19 11:31 PM
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So sorry to hear that Sorta. Sending positive thoughts!, hope you get this straight out.

Re: Need Massive Help [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1187165
05/26/19 03:27 AM
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What a shocking situation !!
I am so sorry to hear it's still going on and send my very best to you, Sorta Blond kissy


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187179
05/26/19 07:23 AM
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Unbelievable!!! So sorry you are still going thru this!


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187200
05/26/19 12:14 PM
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Wish I was a lawyer. I'd offer my services FREE to any deserving Landlord (like me) who really is being taken advantage of by a tenant. Met several others in this process who are going through similar things and losing income while the tenant lives free for months and months. The law allows it and the Judge is bound by the law. Hate going to court when I know that the Tenant is going to win another battle. Really hate it that SHE is getting covert help from legal aid lawyers who are guiding her at every step. I am going to find the one who told her to file that 'motion' and confront him if I can. At least I can tell him I know what's going on. I'm doing this all on my own (yep, stupid but necessary). No money, can't borrow, can't squeeze out anything from my meager income without her rent. Eventually I will get my house back. Just have no idea when. I'm trying to just listen to the Judge, interject when I can about the TRUTH and hoping she see's the Tenant for what she is. A liar and cheat and a person with no conscience. Every day I have to watch her walking out the driveway to go shopping and bringing back bags and bags (usually fast food) while I am trying to stretch 7 bucks I have left for a full week before my tiny retirement check hits the bank. So sad in many ways. Court is really enlightening when it comes to pleading my case. I'm the plaintiff, but I am treated more like the defendant each time. Pray for me and the Judge that my June 3 hearing ends all this mess and I get my house back and see the last of the evil tenant. Don't know what else to do and it's depressing.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187203
05/26/19 12:35 PM
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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187204
05/26/19 12:44 PM
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So sorry to hear your problems are still on going....it seems like the laws bend over backwards to "protect" the tenants like they do with criminals nowadays...

Hopefully some judge with common sense will put this right soon.

Until then our thoughts are with you.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187210
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so do i.

Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187217
05/26/19 04:02 PM
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I suppose you couldn’t do this now, but maybe when this is all over and done with you should consider selling the rental house. You’re so far in the hole right now that I doubt you could recoup your losses by continuing to rent it. jmo Best of luck with the current situation. Sure seems totally unfair.

Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187222
05/26/19 06:34 PM
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Ahhh Sparkle, good thoughts there, only problem is my rental(s) 2 of them side by side are ON my 3 house property. I live in one and the other two I rent out. Can't split the property easily since it's all one 'parcel'. Thought of that awhile back but who knows, maybe the city could come up with something. AND the 3 houses are all on ONE water line AND the sewer line is joined with mine. Big mess of intertwining when the original owner of my house build the 2 rentals and avoided lots of building permit stuff and taxes I guess. All legal, just combined a lot of stuff. The electrical boxes are on my wall and wires run through my attic crawl space. Really complicated. All legal and safe (I had everything inspected) but very hard to split if I could I'd get rid of them in a heartbeat. Just have to get this mess straightened out with this evil tenant who just has no conscience and is out to ruin my life. Terrible person and she's using her mentally disabled son as a weapon for the latest round of fun. Don't know what the Judge will do on June 3 but I'm ready for anything. Still can't understand how someone can just hold your house hostage, not pay a dime and all the while you have to keep providing free water/trash/etc. Laws gotta change.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187223
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Sorta I feel so bad for you and wish there was a way I could help. sad

I don't suppose there's a possibility you could have her water or electricity cut off. wink


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187227
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How I wish Joe. It's totally illegal to do ANYTHING to a bad tenant. Can't shut off anything, have to keep the house in good repair, fix things etc. even if they aren't paying. California law is really tough. Can't intimidate them, make noise to annoy them, etc. I'm even afraid to walk past the house to get to my other tenant's house and my empty back lot that needs mowing, etc. for fear she will claim I'm spying on her or something. Not a good situation, but I would LOVE to do something to her. Yeah...dream of all sorts of stuff...


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187243
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i am sorry about this, i guess you got a corrupt judge who is letting her do this, and she hire a corrupt lawyer, who is helping her do this, again i am sorry, sending positive thoughts.

Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187250
05/26/19 10:39 PM
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As I said before, I fail to see why you are expected to take her on as a charity case against your will and to your great detriment.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1187283
05/27/19 09:38 AM
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What about going to the media Sorta, let them know what this tenant is pulling & that she is putting you in financial jeopardy.


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Re: Need Massive Help [Re: judith] #1187364
05/28/19 07:54 AM
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I thought of that too Judith, but with her next hearing on June third I wondered if it would harm in any way-----maybe the judge wouldn't be too happy.

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