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Re: Hard Drives [Re: oldbroad] #1187221
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Okay, thanks.

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Finally felt okay enough to look at this stuff again. I do have a couple of more questions.

1) Can one monitor be connected to two computers at the same time as long as the monitor has different connector types? (Only using one computer at a time of course.)

2) Other than the Blu Ray part, what is the difference between the 24X LG SATA Dual Layer DVD /-RW/CDRW and the 12X LG Blu-ray Player / 16X DVD +/-RW DVD Burner SATA?

Can you use both to back up or burn a game? Play a game? Watch a movie? Listen to a music CD? I know Blu Ray movies are different; I just don't know about all the other stuff, mainly the +/-. I know RW is Read/Write but still could use clarification.

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You sure can use two computers with one monitor. You just need to be able to switch between the two connectors either with a button on the monitor or with the monitor driver software.

This explains the differences between the DVD formats. If you don't watch Blu Ray movies, then you don't need that capability.

https://www.lifewire.com/different-types-of-dvd-recorders-2482957


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Originally Posted by oldbroad
1) Can one monitor be connected to two computers at the same time as long as the monitor has different connector types? (Only using one computer at a time of course.)

Sure. You can also have the computers on at the same time, but will have to use your monitor settings to go between them.

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2) Other than the Blu Ray part, what is the difference between the 24X LG SATA Dual Layer DVD /-RW/CDRW and the 12X LG Blu-ray Player / 16X DVD +/-RW DVD Burner SATA?

Unless you have Blu-Ray discs, I'd go for the DVD drive. I've heard some complaints about Blu-Ray drives that don't read DVD's very well.

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Can you use both to back up or burn a game? Play a game? Watch a movie? Listen to a music CD? I know Blu Ray movies are different; I just don't know about all the other stuff, mainly the +/-. I know RW is Read/Write but still could use clarification.

A Player can only play. It looks like this one can play Blu-Ray movies but is supposed to be able to both read and burn DVD's.

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Well, thank you both but I didn't learn anything, I'm sorry to say.

Regarding the monitor, I was hoping it would just be as easy as connecting it to the 2 computers and when I turned one on it would work. I have never known how to do anything else with any monitors I've ever had. I don't recall ever having software or instructions with any of them.

As for the other, can this: 24X LG SATA Dual Layer DVD /-RW/CDRW do this: Back up or burn a game? Play a game? Watch a movie? Listen to a music CD? And now I have to add the question of what type of discs are required to use in it? (Sorry Drac but the linc you provided made it harder for me to know.) Well, in researching further, I guess this is the same thing I have in this computer I'm using now and I believe it does all of the above but I've never actually tested it out. As far as I know, I burned some games to disc but whether they work or not, I don't know. And, I've never yet tried to watch a movie or listen to a music CD. I know it works to play games.

So, maybe my questions are answered.

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Originally Posted by oldbroad
Regarding the monitor, I was hoping it would just be as easy as connecting it to the 2 computers and when I turned one on it would work.

If only one computer is on, the monitor will switch to that one.

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As for the other, can this: 24X LG SATA Dual Layer DVD /-RW/CDRW do this: Back up or burn a game? Play a game? Watch a movie? Listen to a music CD?

Yes to all of them, just like any other DVD burner for a computer.
If your movie is on a Blu-Ray disc, you'd need a Blu-Ray player.

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And now I have to add the question of what type of discs are required to use in it?

Either DVD+R or DVD-R for burning.

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Jenny, thank you! I guess I just don't feel sure about things if they aren't spelled out and nowhere in the description does it say "burner" like it does in the Blu-Ray one. I should have thought to look at the one in this computer sooner. Then I wouldn't have had to ask about that since e-College seems to be selling the same one as they did 4 years ago when I bought this computer. I probably asked the same question back then.

Regarding the monitor, then I would NOT have to "switch between the two connectors either with a button on the monitor or with the monitor driver software" as long as I just have one of the computers on (which is what I originally asked)?

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No, you would "switch" between them if you had both computers on. You are only using one at a time whether you have both computer on at the same time or not.


The listing of support for DVD /-RW/CDRW means they are "recordable" and "re-writeable."


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Drac, if the monitor is hooked up to 2 different computers and I turn 1 of them on, it will work, yes?

Then I turn that computer off, and turn the other one on and it will work, yes?

If you could just play stuff but not burn stuff, what would it say?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by oldbroad
Drac, if the monitor is hooked up to 2 different computers and I turn 1 of them on, it will work, yes?

Then I turn that computer off, and turn the other one on and it will work, yes?

Yes, the monitor will use the computer that's on automatically.

I assume each computer will have its own keyboard and mouse.
If you want to use the same keyboard and mouse for both computers, you should probably consider a KVM switch to avoid having to attach the keyboard and mouse to the other computer every time you switch computers.

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If you could just play stuff but not burn stuff, what would it say?

There's no one description. They might call it a DVD drive or a DVD player or they might call it something else. A drive like this wouldn't be sold on a new computer.
If you want to be sure, look up the model of the drive or ask the seller.

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I use a KVM switch and it enables me to use one mouse, one keyboard and all three of my current computers - with just the one monitor.


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Thanks once again Jenny. I am going to get another keyboard and mouse and will probably use it, but will keep it around for an extra if not. I do dislike having to attach and unattach and that is why I am trying to be certain about the monitor. I don't think I want to get a new one right now. At any rate, I do have an extra one around if I end up needing it but it is smaller. It can certainly be used to fill in though.

I tried a KVM switch one time but couldn't get it to work between my '98 and XP.

I still can't figure out where exactly I'm going to set this new computer up though.

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Mine works with my Win98, WinXP and Win7 machines but it was expensive.
For me, though, well worth the cost yes


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Originally Posted by oldbroad
I still can't figure out where exactly I'm going to set this new computer up though.

To some degree that depends on its shape.
If it's one of those cube-like ones, it will fit a different spot than a tower.

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Just make sure this one is not set up in a confined space since it is going to have higher end components.


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Back to looking again. I have been looking today at these new AMD Radeon cards, not that I actually understand any of it. I do have a question regarding the article in the link below. Somewhere between the 2 pictures it says something about RIS and not working with games with DX10 and DX11. Is this referring to Direct X 10 and Direct X 11 and that games that use these cannot be played with these video cards or is this something totally different? Or is it just that RIS that won't work with Direct X10 and Direct X 11 games but the games can be played with these video cards?

I hope I'm making sense.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...xt-review-head-to-head-with-nvidia-super

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The way I read it, it's the RIS (Radeon Image Sharpening) feature that doesn't work when playing DirectX 10 and 11 games. That doesn't mean the cards won't play those games -- just that they won't use that particular RIS feature with DirectX 10 and 11 games. No older ATI cards use RIS because it's new, and no Nvidia cards have or will have RIS. RIS isn't required to play the games.

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Thank you Jenny! As I keep reading, that's how I'm understanding it also. This review here states the RIS is only incompatible with Direct X 11 games but works with Direct X 10 games. As long as the games play, that isn't an issue for me.

https://www.pcmag.com/review/369171/amd-radeon-rx-5700

What do you think of the card? What do you think about buying a card that is this new and not so "tested" yet? All the info I've seen says they run hot and are loud.

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Originally Posted by oldbroad
Thank you Jenny! As I keep reading, that's how I'm understanding it also. This review here states the RIS is only incompatible with Direct X 11 games but works with Direct X 10 games.

Even better.
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As long as the games play, that isn't an issue for me.

https://www.pcmag.com/review/369171/amd-radeon-rx-5700

And the author of that 2nd article said, "I asked AMD about this, and the company says it's "looking into DX11 compatibility in the future."
So even that may not remain an issue for RIS.

And he also said RIS works better and has better compatibility than Nvidia's image sharpening technique. He said
Originally Posted by Chris Stobing
In my own testing of the Nvidia sharpening feature, at times I found that much of the image got "oversharpened," where previously jagged edges somehow looked even more jagged to the eye, and nothing looked markedly better than it would have had I left the image alone. This just adds more credence to the idea that RIS is more than a simple sharpening tool, and actually adapts the way it handles the image to the game that's being played.


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What do you think about buying a card that is this new and not so "tested" yet? All the info I've seen says they run hot and are loud.

Of course I don't have any experience with a card that new, and can't tell you how loud it is, but it looks like a good one. The RIS feature may turn out to be a useful feature when playing older adventure games which use DirectX 9.

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And here is a critical thing to consider... Assuming you are upgrading your current video card, do make sure a new one is compatible with your motherboard and that you have a powerful enough power supply to run it.


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Thanks for your input Jenny!

You too Drac, but this is not for upgrading. I'm still trying to purchase a new system. I still haven't decided where it's going to go and I still can't decide on some things. I thought today I might come to some decisions but then this new card showed up on eCollege and I've been looking again all day (at the card and other things), so still no decisions. My brain is tired again!

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The thread about Egypt II got off subject so I'm moving back here.

A couple more questions.

I'm planning on the new Radeon AMD RX5700 video card. I believe it requires a 600 watt power supply. Is 650 watt okay then or should it really be higher, like 750? (I understand 650 is higher than 600. I guess I am asking though if it's better to not get exactly what it requires so to speak.)

This video card says it has a Display Port and a HDMI connection. I was trying not to buy another monitor and was hoping to hook this up to the same monitor my XP is hooked up to but I'm not sure that it will work right or whether it is a good idea or not.

The AMD RX5700 says: Video Card connections:

Display Port: 1.4 with DSC
HDMI: 4K60 Support

I don't know what that all means.

The monitor I was hoping to use is a Dell from January 2011. I was just sitting on my kitchen floor with a magnifying glass in one hand and a flashlight in the other trying to see what connections it has and what information I can give you. This is it: Dell LCD Monitor Model ST2320Lf It has 3 connectors: DVI-D, D-Sub (which is what I have the XP hooked up to) and HDMI (I guess from what I found Googling it is a Type A HDMI IN). Further information is: AC 100-240V 50/60 Hz 1.5A (1,5A)

With a HDMI cable, will this work? (I don't know what the 4K60 Support means.)

One other note, the D-Sub and the HDMI connections are right next to each other and I'm not real sure if both can be used at the same time as I'm not sure there is enough room for both connectors to fit side by side. I don't have a HDMI cable to test it out.

I know you try to be as thorough as possible and I do appreciate that but please, the most simple answers will be helpful.

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The "minimum" wattage for that card is 600 watts. I would get at least a 650 or 700 watt. I prefer more "head room" rather than less.

D-sub is the old VGA port. If the monitor has an HMDI port, then you should be able to use it. You will need to purchase an HDMI cable. HDMI just means that it is high definition and can also carry sound.

The 4K support means that if you have a 4K monitor, this video card will support it. 4K is VERY high definition and not a lot of people can support it because their internet connection is not good enough. I have a 4K TV, but my measly WiFi isn't fast enough!

The other numbers you gave just say that it is an AC type of current which is what we use in the US.

This very old monitor is not going to give you the kind of video that the AMD video card can put out. To be honest, if you've got another $100 laying around, an investment in a new monitor would be worth it. Seems a shame to have such an awesome video card and an old monitor that would not take advantage of it. But if you're trying to save a few bucks, it will be fine

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OY!

1) I added something to my original post while you were posting. (About the closeness of the 2 connections on the monitor.)

2) The monitor doesn't say 4K; the video card does. I don't know if the monitor will support the video card. That is why I was asking if it would work. I have no idea if my internet connection would support that at all.

3) I don't want 2 different monitors on my table. Can you direct me to a monitor that will work with the video card I want AND that I can connect my XP to? (And the proper cables.)


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Originally Posted by oldbroad
1) I added something to my original post while you were posting. (About the closeness of the 2 connections on the monitor.)

Closeness doesn't matter as long as the connectors fit next to each other.
If you wanted to you could leave the D-Sub attached to the old computer and attach the new one to the HDMI.

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2) The monitor doesn't say 4K; the video card does. I don't know if the monitor will support the video card.

It will work with your older monitor at a lower resolution, but it won't produce 4K on a monitor that can't support 4K.

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I have no idea if my internet connection would support that at all.

Not sure what you mean. Your network connection won't affect your video card resolution unless you are playing an online game that requires extremely high resolutions, and I don't know of any.

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3) I don't want 2 different monitors on my table. Can you direct me to a monitor that will work with the video card I want AND that I can connect my XP to? (And the proper cables.)

Your current monitor would work.
If you want a new monitor that can do 4K, you'll have to find one that your old computer has a connection for. Does your XP computer only have a D-sub connection on the video card or does it also have a DVI connection?

Here's a D-Sub
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SVGA_port.jpg

Here are examples of DVI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dvi-cable.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DVI_Connector_Types.svg

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