Re: Hard Drives
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Hi Jenny. Thank you for very direct, simple answers.
What I meant about the closeness of the 2 connections is that it doesn't look like the heads of the connectors will fit together in the space. Not sure how to say that, but like how you cannot use two outlets next to each other on a power strip because the plugs are too big and block access to one of the other outlets on it.
My comment about the internet connection is because of what Draclvr wrote: "4K is VERY high definition and not a lot of people can support it because their internet connection is not good enough. I have a 4K TV, but my measly WiFi isn't fast enough!"
I'll have to check the XP out. I'm not really sure what kind of connection(s) it has.
EDIT: If I'm looking at the right spot on the XP (which is next to where the monitor is plugged in) there is a S-OUT and a AV-OUT. Don't know what those are.
Also, regarding the power supplies, eCollege has 650 or 750 and some higher. No 700. Which would you think is better?
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Re: Hard Drives
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What I meant about the closeness of the 2 connections is that it doesn't look like the heads of the connectors will fit together in the space. Not sure how to say that, but like how you cannot use two outlets next to each other on a power strip because the plugs are too big and block access to one of the other outlets on it. HDMI cables are pretty slim. At least mine are. If you have one, try plugging it in next to the other connection on your monitor. I don't know of any monitor where you can't attach the cables to connectors that are next to each other. My comment about the internet connection is because of what Draclvr wrote: "4K is VERY high definition and not a lot of people can support it because their internet connection is not good enough. I have a 4K TV, but my measly WiFi isn't fast enough!" I think Draclvr is talking about a situation where she'd be using Wi-Fi instead of a cable to connect the 4K TV to the video card. Most people who are enthusiastic about 4K are young people with perfect vision and who think they can see a difference between regular 1080p (1920x1080 resolution) and 4K. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolutionThere are YouTube videos explaining why people can't actually see in 4K. I know I can't. I'll have to check the XP out. I'm not really sure what kind of connection(s) it has. Well, if it only has a DVI connection you don't want to get a monitor that only has D-Sub and HDMI. Make sure you know for sure which connector type you need. Also, regarding the power supplies, eCollege has 650 or 750 and some higher. No 700. Which would you think is better? Get the 750. Like Draclvr said, it's good to have headroom. The power supply will usually last longer if there is headroom. If I'm looking at the right spot on the XP (which is next to where the monitor is plugged in) there is a S-OUT and a AV-OUT. Don't know what those are. Look at the plug that's plugged into the monitor. That's the one you'd use if you got a new monitor. It may be D-sub, but could be DVI. S-out might be S-video out, which might go to a TV. Does it look like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Close-up_of_S-video_female_connector.jpgAV-out sounds like it's one of those circular RCA jacks, also not something you'd attach to a computer. Does it look like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Composite-cables.jpg
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Re: Hard Drives
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09/16/19 06:58 PM
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So, the question is... are you planning on using this monitor on BOTH computers at the same time and they will be sort of next to each other?
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Re: Hard Drives
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preferably I will have both computers hooked up to one monitor but only be using one computer at a time. Just don't want to have to keep changing the hook up. It's standard for a monitor to automatically switch to whichever input it receiving a signal. So if you shut one computer off and turn the other one on, the monitor will automatically change to the computer that's on. 750 watt EVGA SuperNOVA G3 modular 80 PLUS GOLD CERTIFIED or 750 watt EVGA SuperNOVA P2 modular 80 PLUS PLATINUM CERTIFIED ?? Both have 4.5 stars out of 5 at Amazon. SuperNOVA G3 at AmazonSuperNOVA P2 at Amazon
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Re: Hard Drives
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That's a good setup. Some monitors even have a switch that lets you switch between monitors even if they both are on.
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Re: Hard Drives
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If I buy a new monitor, do I have to get one that says 4K for it to compliment the video card? Also, why do the monitors list operating systems? Don't they work with Windows 10? I actually like this monitor because all the connectors are on the side, rather than on the bottom where you can't see them AND the brightness or whatever buttons are all right on front. The ones on the monitors I have now are not where I can see them or know what they are so they never get used. And I like the USB ports on it. But it doesn't show Windows 10 or 4K. https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-PB238Q-...1568682581&s=electronics&sr=1-13(I'm just looking. I don't know. Getting tired and overwhelmed again.)
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Re: Hard Drives
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If you like this monitor, then just stick with it! Just keep in mind that you are using a high end video card with a very old monitor. And if you DID decide to get a new one, then no, unless you plan on using 4K, you don't need to get a monitor that can use it. Like Jenny says, it's mostly for the young crowd who think they need the best of the best! This is the one my friend just got. It has both a VGA (older analog port you are using) and an HDMI port. But your old one may be just fine for YOU! In fact, if you like it, then just keep using it! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CVL2D2S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Re: Hard Drives
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Yeah, that would be convenient for connection. I don't think I would like all my cables sticking out of the side of the monitor though.
If you stick with the old monitor, it doesn't have a display port connection. As long as it has HDMI, you'll be OK.
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Re: Hard Drives
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I have quite a large ATX form factor case and it is only a little over 17.5" long. About the longest the large ATX cases get is 18". A 21" case would be one of the absolutely giant EATX cases made for massive water cooling systems. Mine does hang over about an inch on each end. No biggie. I just want to be able to roll it away so I can clean under it.
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Re: Hard Drives
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Thanks Jenny.
Now, I need some advice/opinions. This is hard for me to explain so it's going to be kind of long.
I first got DSL/U-verse internet in 2011. I have a router and modem. I read the instructions and figured out how to set it up myself in my other Windows 7 computer and then somehow hooked this windows 7 computer to it also.
After less than a year I thought something was wrong with the modem (what the real problem was had nothing to do with the modem) and I called AT&T and they sent me new equipment. I never used this equipment because I figured out what the real problem was. So I am currently using equipment from 2011 and have an extra set of equipment that is just as old but not used.
Around 2 years ago I was losing my connection a lot, mostly in certain weather. AT&T didn't want to believe there was a problem on the line in the alley but when my phone had so much static on it that we could barely hear each other, they came out to check it. They kept telling me I needed new equipment, but sure enough the line was exposed somehow and rain and wind were causing problems. It was fixed and worked fine for around a year or so. Then I started having problems again but I couldn't connect it to the weather.
I've been living all this year with this problem of losing my connection. I have to unplug the modem to let it cool down and then plug it in again. Mostly these days it only stays on for an hour or so. Some days it will stay on though for 10 to 20 hours (very rare). I don't know why it varies so much. I tried the other unused modem (but not with the other unused router). The modem never connected to my computer and I didn't know if I was supposed to do something in the computer or what and was afraid to mess around with it for fear of totally losing internet. I've been looking into buying a new computer all year so thought I might as well wait to get the internet fixed when I get the new computer because I don't know if I will know how to hook it up anyway.
Well, I ordered the computer last week. Today I called AT&T to ask them to send me new equipment. Before I felt they were pushing it but now they won't just send it. They have to send somebody out to look at my current equipment and my lines and I don't know what all, or why. I could barely understand the woman and found myself getting very frustrated. I first started to say no to a service call but then the thought of having to call back again (trying to get through the machine to a person and then that person is in billing so then you have to wait for a tech and then you can't understand them and they don't listen to you) made me say ok to a service call, but now I'm having second thoughts again which is where I need your advice/opinions.
Should I let the person come out and see what they say and maybe have to have them back out again after I get the new computer? Even if the computer is here when they come, I do not believe it is even going to be set up yet.
Should I cancel the appointment (providing I can get through to somebody) and wait for the new computer and try to use the old but unused equipment to see if I can figure out again how to set it up and see if it works? I know I don't want to try to hook up the connection I have now since I do know it does not work well.
I'm sure this all sounds stupid to you but I am really concerned about this. I just don't know which way is better. I just wish they would have sent me new equipment and I could have seen whether or not I could figure it out with the new computer.
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Re: Hard Drives
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Yes, yes, yes... please allow them to come out and get you hooked up. You should really not be using equipment that is that old. If your modem is overheating, that is definitely NOT normal. You really need to let them come out and sort this out for you.
If they can come out and get everything working for you once and for all, it should matter what computer is connected to it. Turn on a new computer and allow it to connect... enter any password if needed and you're good to go. I've done this so many times for other people.
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Re: Hard Drives
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Absolutely. Let them sort out your issues. It will be SO much easier to hook the new one up if you do.
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Re: Hard Drives
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So, your modem isn't WiFi, correct? And the new computer doesn't have a WiF adapter, correct? If it's the computer, that's easily remedied with a USB WiFi adapter you can get at Wal Mart. But if you are intent on having a wired connection, then that's even easier... just connect an ethernet cable from the computer to the modem. Done. No passwords etc.
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