That makes sense to me, oldbroad. I thought deleterman's difficulties might have something to do with what you are describing. Thanks for trying to help.

thanks guys for the help. do you think that i should go to the map and go to all the places and check them out ?

That is never a bad idea but that won't help you with the drawer.

about that drawer ? what room should I be in ? i can get in to 505 or 507 or is there another one ? and thank you so much for helping me on this my head is spinning over this.

Like I said, I don't really remember but I believe you want to be in the room that is NOT where the couple was murdered. Try the room next to it. I think that's 507? Just look around to see if you may have missed a hot spot to move to. Maybe you are just standing in the wrong place or at a wrong angle to get to the drawer. I MAY BE WRONG!

And if all else fails, there's always the video walkthrough.

thanks I think a video walkthrough would be great . thanks for that ideal .....cool.

There's more than one on YouTube and you will need to find where you are in the game.

Here's a part one of two to get you started.

thanks for that info - the key is not in the drawer -it is on top of the drawer. in room 507. still can't get it.

Glad you got it figured out. Have fun.

yikes . i can't get the key . but i did get a hammer ! went every place and still can't get the key ...what now ?

What does the walkthrough say?

that is the problem I don't have my old walk through , I will have to look for it . but I think that i'm going down the 2 paths at the same time like back and forth. because I saved at both doors with the lock picks and then I went both ways from there . Yikes - this is getting crazy.

a ha just found my old walk through ! it was right under my nose .

That should be a big help!

thanks I sure hope so... now how to finger out how far back to go and where to start from a save game that I have . I don't want to start over again from the start. I will have to get my brain in gear . any thoughts on where I should start from ???/

I'd say just pick one and go from there!

thanks , I want to go with Hellouin : what door is that ? i have the picks . ?

What does the walkthrough say? Remember, we aren't playing the game, so all we can do it use a walkthrough ourselves. Oldbroad has played it, so maybe she will remember.

thanks , hope she shows up...

I can't remember enough about it. I have the game installed but the .exe file is missing and it won't open.

Did your antivirus eat the .exe

Yes. I have it showing on my games list that Norton removed the file on 12/01/17. I had already replayed the game so I didn't really care I guess. I don't know if I can get it back now or not.

WOW, thanks for responding. I went to youtube to watch but i don't know what part to watch.. my head is spinning . i just might give up on the game ... i just can't get any save game to move on with this.

Why don't you watch the YouTube video from the beginning until you get to the part where you are now? It would also help you remember what you have already done in the game.

You could also try looking at the UHS hints for the game here.

There's a page of hints about Hellouin's office here.

thanks , i will try that and see what goes on .