Re: post mortem
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thanks I will try that . using MaG 's talked to barman got bottle of red , now do i have to use the phone left of desk ? any way I saved at the police station, do i need to go back to the hotel ?
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Re: post mortem
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It sounds like you may have missed a step or steps. Since I don't know exactly what you have and have not done, I recommend going over the written walkthrough very carefully. There is also a complete video walkthrough of the game that starts here.
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Re: post mortem
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thanks for the info. yikes a lot of back and forth. saved at just befor inspector aristide lebrun details.
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Re: post mortem
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The walkthrough has a lot to say about this (it also has a picture of the door lock/pick that you might want to take a look at: The lock picking tools are one time use only and will disappear in the inventory after being used. The choice is whether to use it on room 507 or Hellouin's office.
Hellouin's office - Go to the end of the hall and look at lock-doorknob of last door.
Lock picking puzzle: There are 5 picks but the middle one is not used. The keyhole has 4 places to insert the picks. The picks can be moved up-down or left-right. The correct pick at correct place is seen when the door knob is clicked and the pick stays still. To know which pick is what, place the hand icon on lock pick's bright brown pack - the pick in the lock will light up at its original position in the pack.
Place 4 picks except the middle one in the keyhole. Click door knob. Click each shaky pick to move them (up down, left, right) and then click the door knob. If the pick shakes wildly, it is in the wrong place, if the pick shakes slightly, it is in the right place but wrong position. If the click stays still, it is placed correctly.
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Re: post mortem
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thanks I will try and find it . is it in the same room # 507 right ? i got the ring and the glass with purple powder , i went in to the bath room - black dye on sink, so i look at the bed and it has blood all over it as i go to it i can't open the drawer -can't get close to it to open..this is odd huh ? what do i do now ???
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Re: post mortem
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I think I gave you the wrong information before and was not at the right spot in the walkthrough. Where I believe you are now, it says this: Turn right and look close at fireplace. Take the ring of Fay. Go to bottom of bed and take slivers of glass with purple powder. Look close at drawer by the bed and take the key to strongbox.
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Re: post mortem
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thanks , so that is in room # 507 right ? same room with the fire place ?
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Re: post mortem
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Why don't you try them both?
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Re: post mortem
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thanks, but that is the problem , can't get to ether one , now that is in room 507 I just want to make sure every thing is right . I just checked both 505 & 507 both have fire places . I don't have a the pencil . now in room 507 is where i got the ring and the stuff with the purple power. now how do i get the key...and i went in to the bathroom and there is black dye on sink ...is this the room that i need to be in to get that key ???
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Re: post mortem
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Here is another excerpt from the walkthrough: Hotel Orphee - Take the pencil from the reception desk. Talk to Petit and to Nicholas, the barman for more info. They both talk about Malet. Go up. Talk to Mrs. Loiseau about everything and learn about the BSORC and K. She might give you a magic talisman if you didn't get the pencil.
Room 505 - Go to locked door, place newspaper under the door and use the pencil (or a magic talisman given by Mrs. Loiseau) on the keyhole. Use the key on keyhole and get a psychic vision!
Room 507 - Turn right and look close at fireplace. Take the ring of Fay. Go to bottom of bed and take slivers of glass with purple powder. Look close at drawer by the bed and take the key to strongbox. Go to the bathroom and see black dye on sink. (Isn't her hair red?)
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Re: post mortem
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I cannot remember this but am thinking you are looking at the wrong drawer in the wrong room. In the other room see if there is someplace else you can stand (like by the hallway door) and get to the nightstand on the left of the bed. (That's assuming there is one and I am not remembering too wrong ). Anyway, my point is that maybe you are not standing in the right place to get to where you need to go. Look around and see if you missed any hot spots to move to. I hope that this information does not add more confusion.
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Re: post mortem
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There's more than one on YouTube and you will need to find where you are in the game. Here's a part one of two to get you started.
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Re: post mortem
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thanks for that info - the key is not in the drawer -it is on top of the drawer. in room 507. still can't get it.
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Re: post mortem
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What does the walkthrough say?
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Re: post mortem
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thanks I sure hope so... now how to finger out how far back to go and where to start from a save game that I have . I don't want to start over again from the start. I will have to get my brain in gear . any thoughts on where I should start from ???/
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Re: post mortem
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I'd say just pick one and go from there!
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Re: post mortem
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What does the walkthrough say? Remember, we aren't playing the game, so all we can do it use a walkthrough ourselves. Oldbroad has played it, so maybe she will remember.
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Re: post mortem
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I can't remember enough about it. I have the game installed but the .exe file is missing and it won't open. Did your antivirus eat the .exe
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Re: post mortem
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WOW, thanks for responding. I went to youtube to watch but i don't know what part to watch.. my head is spinning . i just might give up on the game ... i just can't get any save game to move on with this.
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Re: post mortem
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Why don't you watch the YouTube video from the beginning until you get to the part where you are now? It would also help you remember what you have already done in the game. You could also try looking at the UHS hints for the game here.There's a page of hints about Hellouin's office here.
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Re: post mortem
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I think that's a great idea that Marian suggested, deleterman!
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Re: post mortem
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thanks = I will check and see , I think i have the map but I don't remember seeing this name on it. I went back to my last save and checked the map no Hellouin ' s name on the map.....now what ?
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Re: post mortem
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You say you have the lockpicking tools but that Hellouin is not on the map. It seems like you must be somewhere around here in the walkthrough, although I cannot be sure: When done, talk to show the painting to Hulot and he will give Gus lock picking tools.
Police station: Talk to Beauvais about everything and then show suspect face. It is Jacques Hellouin. Enter first door on left and talk to Inspector Lebrun. Tell him about the mysterious visitor, trying to help and ask about portrait of known criminal. Hellouin is a PI, ex cop, lives in 11th district and is in big trouble. Malet was killed last night.
The lock picking tools are one time use only and will disappear in the inventory after being used. The choice is whether to use it on room 507 or Hellouin's office.
Hellouin's office - Go to the end of the hall and look at lock-doorknob of last door. Bear in mind that unless I know where you are in the game and what you have done/haven't done, and if the above does not help, you are just going to have to read through a walkthrough and follow it step by step.
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Re: post mortem
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The desk is in Hellouin's office according to the walkthrough, which is not Room 507, so it sounds like you are in the wrong room if you are looking for the desk. In my post above, I showed you the following from the walkthrough: The lock picking tools are one time use only and will disappear in the inventory after being used. The choice is whether to use it on room 507 or Hellouin's office.
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Re: post mortem
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thanks , well if the desk is in Hellouin's office how do i get there ? I'm at the hall way in front of 507, what do i do now , and i looked at the map and he is not there . in my walk through it sail that his office is at the end of the hall and look at the last door , is that on the right or left of the hall ? i went there but go nothing .
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Re: post mortem
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Police station: Talk to Beauvais about everything and then show suspect face. It is Jacques Hellouin. Enter first door on left and talk to Inspector Lebrun. Tell him about the mysterious visitor, trying to help and ask about portrait of known criminal. Hellouin is a PI, ex cop, lives in 11th district and is in big trouble. Malet was killed last night.
The lock picking tools are one time use only and will disappear in the inventory after being used. The choice is whether to use it on room 507 or Hellouin's office.
Hellouin's office - Go to the end of the hall and look at lock-doorknob of last door. Reading this part of the walkthrough over, it sounds to me like Helouin's office is in the police station - at the end of the hall. Why don't you check that out and see?
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Re: post mortem
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I've tried to read the walkthrough and see if I can figure it out, but if there are things he hasn't done, it's just impossible to provide any help since I don't know what they are! Since we're not playing the game, deleterman, we are kind of stuck too!
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Re: post mortem
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not spoken to helouin at all, yes i tried going back to all the other places nothing changed, can't show anything to the guy at the police station. there is no way i can get back behind the counter to talk to lebrun. but i think at one point i did talk to him. but i don't have that save game ... so now lost . BTW how many save game spots is there ?
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Re: post mortem
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Would you be adverse to starting a new game and this time following the walkthrough, word for word? I don't know what else to suggest as none of us are playing the game! It's obvious you've missed doing something.
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Re: post mortem
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It just doesn't sound like you are having any fun this way! And gaming is supposed to be fun!
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Re: post mortem
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That would make me confused too!
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Re: post mortem
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And please, which walkthrough are you using? As oldbroad says, that will help a lot.
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Re: post mortem
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Whatever the walkthrough says is what you should do!
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Re: post mortem
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We still need to know which walkthrough you're using so we can follow along with you.
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Re: post mortem
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thanks for getting back to me.= the walk through is by MaGtRo , - november 2002 . hope this helps, so far its been great .up to the last part . where it said " path 2 - as journalist or PI . and Petit at the reception desk will not talk to me .....he said get out of here.
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Re: post mortem
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See on the walkthrough where it says this: "Continue on the common path below Path 2 Walkthrough"? Skip that section and go down to the next section called "Common Path". It says to go to Hellouin's office. You must not be playing as a journalist or PI. You are probably playing as an insurance agent since you are following the walkthrough. The insurance agent is "Path 1".
Try it out. Let us know.
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Re: post mortem
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thanks for that info, so I go to the map and and click on Hellouin's office right ??? well i went to Dr.Kaufner's office , I saved just before going down through the halls...is this good so far ?
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Re: post mortem
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Oldbroad, you're the best! It helps to have someone who's actually played the game! And I think that's key, deleterman… don't lose track of where you are in the walkthrough. Check things off with a pencil if you need to!
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Re: post mortem
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All I can say is that you must not be at the right door if the map is coming up.
I would start that section over and follow the walkthrough very closely. If you miss a step, you won't get where you need to go. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful than that.
Make sure you pay attention to the directionals A-1, E-2, etcetera that are in the walkthrough. You can find those letter/numbers on the walls at intersections I believe.
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Re: post mortem
[Re: oldbroad]
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10/11/19 12:17 PM
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thanks ,slow and easy, I have a save at the part where I entered the building , does that mean that every thing up to this part is ok ? from here it said turn right on side hall D-1 now backtracking on C-2 getting close to his office, please let me know ASAP , I don't want to start from the part "to get to the office"I hope that at backtracking " is good and I can continue from there ! thanks for all your help on this .
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Re: post mortem
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10/11/19 10:28 PM
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yikes I tried 4 times , hard to see like E -2 and B-1 going down the halls and looking up at the corners . i have to get out my magnifier glasses to see what they are . this is very hard ! lucky I have a save at the start, go forward , turn left, A-1, go forward through open grill door, turn left on side hall and pull up the lever, not very good instructions !! but I thank you for your help on this with out U I would not get very far...! I think that I will go to youtube and see if that will help.
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Re: post mortem
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10/12/19 04:25 PM
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thanks , yes I think I do have a save before entering inside building. yes I did, now at the ( middle of the back wing ) saved there .
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Re: post mortem
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10/12/19 06:46 PM
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thanks . that is where i saved it , just thinking if I go the wrong way at the corner ? but go back to the corner and go the right way will that be ok.
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Re: post mortem
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10/13/19 08:50 PM
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thanks, will try that..hope it works.
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Re: post mortem
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10/15/19 12:09 PM
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The walkthrough says: Forward to next side hallway E-2 and pull down the lever.
Go forward, turn left at D-1 hallway to the end and enter the office.
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Re: post mortem
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10/15/19 05:03 PM
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From the walkthrough: From the walkthrough:
on C-2.
Forward, turn left on side hall and pull down the lever.
Forward to next side hallway E-2 and pull down the lever.
Go forward, turn left at D-1 hallway to the end and enter the office. As long as you have a saved game, you can keep trying to follow the walkthrough until you find the office. If whatever you do leads nowhere, then restore your saved game and try again.
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Re: post mortem
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10/18/19 06:07 PM
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Here it is from two more walkthroughs: Walkthrough 1: DR. KAUFNER'S OFFICE Now you have to get in without anybody seeing you. Go forward and when you get to the crossway turn left, and click forward 3 times. Turn left and click forward once, turn left again and pull lever. Turn around and exit to your left. Click forward once, turn right and click forward 3 times turn right and click forward 1, turn left and pull lever. Turn around and exit the little room to your right. Click forward 6 times, turn right and click forward once, turn right and pull lever. Exit to your right and click forward once. Turn right and click three times, turn right and click forward once, turn left and click forward once, turn right and pull lever. Exit to your left. Click forward three times; turn right and forward three times. Turn left and forward three times, turn left and forward once, turn left and pull lever. Exit to your left. Click forward once. Turn left and forward three times, turn left and forward once, turn right and forward once, turn left and pull lever. Exit to your right. Click forward three times, turn left and click forward five times. If you did it right you are in front of the doctor's office door, click on it and go in. He is not there. Walkthrough #2: This is actually pretty straightforward... nothing was put into the maze to throw you off. Just do what makes the most sense as you make your way through the maze. Pull a lever whenever you pass one. When you do this, you'll shut one gate but open another. Then, just keep going (usually through the gate you just opened) until you get to another lever. Note that you'll pass through the place where you started a couple of times, but the gates will be arranged differently, allowing you to leave the lobby in a different direction each time. Following this method should lead you right into Kaufner's office. Otherwise, here's the full path you need to take, starting from when you first enter the asylum. N = North (the direction you're facing when you first enter the asylum) S = South E = East W = West P = Pull lever
N, W, W, W, S, P, N, W, N, N, N, E, S, P, N, E, E, E, E, E, E, S, P, N, E, S, S, S, W, S, P, N, W, W, W. Now, you should be back in the room you started from, but the doors will be configured differently.
N, N, N, W, W, W, S, P, N, W, S, S, S, E, S, P, N, E, E, E. You're back in the entry, but the doors are in yet another configuration. Now, just go N, N, N, N, N, N. This should put you in his office. If you try either of these, I would cross off each step after you have completed it - that will make it easier to follow and keep track of where you are.
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Re: post mortem
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10/18/19 07:28 PM
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this is great ! thank U . nether one said when U pull the lever is it up or now ? or when U go in to pull the lever if it is up i pull it down and if it is down i pull it up ? right ?
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Re: post mortem
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10/19/19 07:29 PM
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You'll have to try it to find out! As I've said before since we aren't playing the game, we can't tell you for sure! If you aren't in the right place, just go back the same way 5 times and try again.
This is just me, but I really dislike games like this and have gotten used to the games where you can move around freely.
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Re: post mortem
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10/19/19 07:51 PM
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That's what it sounds like with the levers. Just pull them when you see them I guess. It shows 6 times to go north.
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