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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198333
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Interesting...


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: Draclvr] #1198343
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Thanks very much for that info, Marian bravo

Been to GOG and bought it - and also got my free copy of The Hound of the Baskervilles.

And I will burn both to disk as soon as I get time grin

[ I do already have the Baskerville game but having a disk copy is always best - for me, anyway smile ]


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198345
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I thought you would be pleased by this news, Mad. smile

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198357
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Thanks for the info Marian. If my Crimes & Punishments turns out not to work, I guess I'll have to repurchase it some day. I do have the game installed but never played it and haven't tried it yet to see if it works. (Focus Disc that required Steam.)

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198360
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There is a message from Frogwares on Steam which reads as follows:

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As some of you may be aware, last week we’ve mentioned that some of our games might no longer be available on certain platforms and their stores. We’ve made the announcement on our social media channels, and the news spread like wildfire. Today, we can confirm that we lost 9 store listings out of possible 10. The one listing that was saved was Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments on Steam.

What does this mean? It means that all proceeds from the sale of Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments goes to us, the developer. You can say that the game now belongs to us fully.

The one thing that we have to say about last week’s announcement is this. We will be forever grateful for the sheer-amount of public and industry-wide support that we received. We truly appreciate everyone who added their voice to the issue. We were blown-away. To say “thank you” we put together a digital booklet of behind the scenes stories and anecdotes from our Sherlock Holmes games. We called it Sherlock Holmes: Memories, Stories, Thoughts. This booklet is available to download as a Free DLC. It’s a small token of our huge appreciation for the support we received.

The patch is live now and DLC will be available at 4 PM PDT.


This booklet will also be obtainable as a download from GOG. Scroll down to the bottom of the main page and click on the option that says redeem code. Type SWEETTHANKS into the box for the code and you will be able to reserve a copy.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198411
10/04/19 10:43 PM
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That's partial good news! THanks, Marian!


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198413
10/05/19 12:06 AM
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Thanks, Marian. I had given up hope of ever seeing Crimes & Punishments on GOG. It's been out for 5 years and it's been 3 1/2 years since all of those previous ones made it to GOG. It's downloading now. I bought Dracula Origin also, even though my disc version still works OK. I just replayed it last month.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198430
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Here is a statement from Wael himself last night:

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So today we announced that 9 out of our 10 games were taken down from Xbox and Playstation following the “policy” of the licensee we entrusted years ago with those titles.
Beyond the obvious sadness that it caused, there was one reason to rejoice: the last game, Sherlock Holmes : Crimes and Punishments, also my most personal title, was not taken down from Steam.
It was not taken down not because we thought fiercely (we didn’t), it was also not because destructive decisions were seen as bad by their petty makers.

The game was not taken down because people reacted.

I don’t think people (I am not a fan of this word for all its ambiguities) reacted because our games are loved beyond measure or our team is filled with glamorous smooth talkers, i believe people reacted because they saw people like them unfairly attacked and threatened.
It was the same reaction inside the studio. It was the same reaction outside the studio.

Maybe I see pink flying cows, but i saw last week a political moment, political in the way that people(again!) react and modify the turn of the tide when we unite.

This week taught me that, not only people from all over the world supported us, they also changed our fate because of what we share.

We won’t travel in first class to the next GDC. We will probably have a normal studio Christmas party without the fountain of champagne and the whole stuffed sturgeon.

But we’ll be together, drunk and naked in the snow as the tradition requires, talking about imaginary characters and game mechanics that don’t exist yet.


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198435
10/05/19 09:36 AM
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"But we’ll be together, drunk and naked in the snow as the tradition requires, talking about imaginary characters and game mechanics that don’t exist yet."

Can't beat that for a "last line" rotfl


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198439
10/05/19 09:53 AM
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I loved that too, Mad!


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198446
10/05/19 10:48 AM
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Good news, Uncle Reg! thumbsup I've never played Crimes and Punishments or Dracula: Origin and plan to do that pretty soon; it's so nice to see them on GOG.

I love Wael's statement. smile

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198531
10/06/19 11:18 AM
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I kind of want to play Dracula Origin first, since I played the two casuals recently.
I have the disc version of Dracula Origin, but the DRM on it has always caused problems with my computers' DVD drives.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: Jenny100] #1198534
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I now have 3 versions of the Baskerville game :

The one I originally bought from Frogwares, years ago.

One that appeared suddenly and without notice in my Big Fish library.

And the one I was just given for free by GOG this week.

So I definitely HAVE the game lol

[Which is good because I think it's one of the best of its genre.]


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198535
10/06/19 12:00 PM
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I have the Baskervilles game on a disc but still have not played it.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: Mad] #1198541
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Originally Posted by Mad
I now have 3 versions of the Baskerville game :

The one I originally bought from Frogwares, years ago.

One that appeared suddenly and without notice in my Big Fish library.

I'm amazed that you have games spontaneously appear without notice in your Big Fish library.
Especially when they're good games.

But I wonder if the game you bought from Frogwares isn't a Big Fish version.
I've had disc versions of games that are published by Big Fish, which don't need online activation but which add themselves to the Big Fish Game Manager.

Originally Posted by Mad
[Which is good because I think it's one of the best of its genre.]

Yes, I also think it's one of the best.
So is their Dracula casual game.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198542
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I just played Dracula: Love Kills last year and found myself not liking it very much. I was quite disappointed.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: oldbroad] #1198543
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Originally Posted by oldbroad
I just played Dracula: Love Kills last year and found myself not liking it very much. I was quite disappointed.

It was camp and silly, not trying to be a serious game at all.
So I can understand why some people might not like it, especially after playing Dracula Origin and expecting Dracula Love to be more of a successor.
It wasn't what I was expecting either, but I still enjoyed it.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198544
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I don't remember what I was disappointed with but I did know that it was a casual game so I wasn't expecting serious. I don't know. Someday maybe I'll replay it but not for a good while.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: oldbroad] #1198548
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Originally Posted by oldbroad
I don't remember what I was disappointed with but I did know that it was a casual game so I wasn't expecting serious.

Being a casual game doesn't automatically change the tone to make a game camp and silly. The Drawn games, for example, explore serious subjects and aren't meant to be silly.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: Jenny100] #1198549
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Originally Posted by Jenny100
Originally Posted by Mad
I now have 3 versions of the Baskerville game :

The one I originally bought from Frogwares, years ago.

One that appeared suddenly and without notice in my Big Fish library.

I'm amazed that you have games spontaneously appear without notice in your Big Fish library.
Especially when they're good games.

But I wonder if the game you bought from Frogwares isn't a Big Fish version.
I've had disc versions of games that are published by Big Fish, which don't need online activation but which add themselves to the Big Fish Game Manager.

Originally Posted by Mad
[Which is good because I think it's one of the best of its genre.]

Yes, I also think it's one of the best.
So is their Dracula casual game.


The same has happened with a couple of other games, too. Emerald City Confidential being one I can think of ....


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Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198551
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Well, Emerald City Confidential is also a Big Fish game.
I think some casual games that are sold on CD use a Big Fish installer.

Re: Frogwares Games Important Notice [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1198553
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Emerald City was removed from the Big Fish catalog quite a few years ago, but of course it would still be in your Purchase History if you bought it prior to that.

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Emerald City Confidential is a Big Fish Game?

According to Google:

Emerald City Confidential is a 2009 computer adventure game conceived by Dave Gilbert, developed by Wadjet Eye Games and published through PlayFirst. It follows the protagonist Petra, Emerald City's only private eye, as she is approached by a strange woman named Dee Gale. Wikipedia

I think I do have other Play First games that do that with the BF manager though. I have the game from Steam and never even saw it on Big Fish or disc.

But, yes, a lot of my casual disc games do show up in my Big Fish manager including Hound of the Baskervilles. Sometimes I find this annoying that my disc games have to open up the BF manager!

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My understanding when I read Jenny's words was that she was saying Big Fish carried it, not that they were the developer (which of course they are not).

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Ah! Gotcha! I read it different obviously!

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