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Re: Adventure/RPG #122322
07/20/02 05:11 PM
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Yes. I've played very few adventure/blah hybrids, but in those few the adventure aspect of the games was dampened down considerably. The puzzles were in a much more simplistic form than the real brain-grinders found in good adventure games. I've always assumed this was a natural consequence of trying to appeal to a cross genre audience. However, my experience of adv/blah hybrids is very limited, so I'm wondering if there are hybrid games out there that do include equally good puzzles as in pure adventure games. What do you think?


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Re: Adventure/RPG #122323
07/20/02 05:13 PM
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Fildil, I don't know of any either, but the aforementioned Dragonriders of Pern would be one of the closest to that - you actually kill very little, and if you utilize sneak and running probably next to nothing. I, however, was not a good sneak, so had to be better at the sword.


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Re: Adventure/RPG #122324
07/21/02 01:45 AM
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fildil, what is your definition of "kill"? If it is the fighting element you dislike, fair enough; that aspect can be hard to get into (or was for me).
If it is the moral aspect of "killing" that upsets you, I have great news. All the RPGs I have played do not "kill" anyone who has been defeated in battle, they are knocked out. That means you can fight the same character later on in the game when they have developed different abilities, or they gradually come over to your way of thinking and join your side.

Where RPGs are concerned, for "kill" think "defeat" in future.

Re: Adventure/RPG #122325
07/21/02 10:11 AM
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Jude, I guess I should have made myself clearer. When I say "kill" I really mean fighting someone or something off. My reflexes seem to be non-existent and I always wind up dead or knocked out. I played Harry Potter with my grandson and found out that I couldn't fly a broomstick, leap or evade things that were trying to get me. I really wanted to play an RPG but I guess their not for me.


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Re: Adventure/RPG #122326
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Practise makes perfect.. give it time you will get your reflexes smile


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Re: Adventure/RPG #122327
07/21/02 11:24 AM
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Reflexes not required! Just pause the game when you see enemies and take as long as you want to tell your characters what to do, then unpause again. You can pause whenever you want, for as long as you want.


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Re: Adventure/RPG #122328
07/21/02 11:46 AM
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You dont need reflexes, for games becasue ur not actually catching a ball reall fast, or tryin to target something, just take your time and plan before you play.


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Re: Adventure/RPG #122329
07/21/02 12:26 PM
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Hi fildil.

You sound a bit like me smile
You don't have the fastest reactions in the world when it comes to timed sequences or combat ?? happydance

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Re: Adventure/RPG #122330
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Thanks everybody, I didn't realize that I could pause the game so that I can plan my moves. I'm going to give it a try. I have a feeling with all my pausing that I will be at the game for quite a while.


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Re: Adventure/RPG #122331
07/21/02 04:11 PM
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nod - I too like turn-based games... which is why I really dislike under a killing moon and pandora's directive (or whatever was the sequel) - there were far too many timed puzzles for my liking. The occasional one or 2 is ok, but there's too many in those 2 games.

Return to Krondor I suppose is trying to simulate the adventure/RPG nature of its prequel - Betrayal at Krondor. In BaK, you can do all sorts of sub-quests solve mysteries, explore dungeons etc and the world is HUGE... RtK however is VERY linearas I mentioned above...

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