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The Artifact #1228377
09/18/20 04:40 PM
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I've barely started the game. I have the car key and am at the car. I click the car with the key and get a small picture that I thought would take me somewhere else if I clicked on it but it just brings up a black and white type screen and if I click that, I am right back outside the car area.

What am I doing wrong?

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I have no idea. If no one else can help, I suggest you send velorond an email and ask him about it (his email address is in his profile).

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Thanks Marian. I finally found what I was missing. The letter that actually gets the game going and adds a location to the map, however, in the new location the way the game plays changed, and it may now make me seasick! Ugh! I guess I'll just have to play early in the day before I eat, and move around slowly. That's how I play those type of games!

Re: The Artifact [Re: oldbroad] #1228456
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I guess I am not meant to play this game. It will not let me back in now even with Norton shut off. I am getting a script error and a runtime error. Not worth the aggravation!

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If it were me, I would ask velorond about it. But I also understand about not finding it worth the aggravation.

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I already uninstalled it. Too many other games to play! I should have just listened to Norton in the first place!

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Norton was no doubt finding some false positive, but again I agree that it's better to move on at this point.

This does make me remember my old antivirus AVG. It would not let me install Everlight or So Blonde when there was absolutely nothing wrong with either one of them. That was when I got rid of AVG and got a different antivirus. AVG was just terrible about false positives.

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Well, here's a strange thing. I can hear birds singing. I did not have birds singing before and am afraid this is part of the leftover remnants that do not uninstall??? I don't know how to use an uninstaller.

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When do you hear birds singing? When you are just at your desktop? I would not think what you are describing would be possible being as you uninstalled the game, even if it did leave a few remnants behind.

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Originally Posted by oldbroad
Well, here's a strange thing. I can hear birds singing. I did not have birds singing before and am afraid this is part of the leftover remnants that do not uninstall??? I don't know how to use an uninstaller.

Here's a how-to for REVO Uninstaller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ5kIU2TJhg
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When do you hear birds singing? When you are just at your desktop? I would not think what you are describing would be possible being as you uninstalled the game, even if it did leave a few remnants behind.

I suppose it could be possible If the previous game and the current game have the same folder structure,
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Norton was no doubt finding some false positive, but again I agree that it's better to move on at this point.

[quote=Marian]This does make me remember my old antivirus AVG. It would not let me install Everlight or So Blonde when there was absolutely nothing wrong with either one of them. That was when I got rid of AVG and got a different antivirus. AVG was just terrible about false positives.

Most likely it detected the DRM on the game rather than the game itself. DRM that requires installing low level driversis going to trigger an antivirus.

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Revo Uninstaller is what I was going to suggest. It is very easy to use. Thank you, Jenny.

And indeed, that could have been the problem with Everlight and So Blonde.

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I was playing Solitaire and noticed the birds. I got out and still heard the birds while at my desktop with nothing else open.

I restarted my computer and did not hear them but I looked in Task Manager under the Start Up tab and there is an icon that just says program that was not there before. I right clicked it and found a little information online about it but not really much. What I found says to do this "Open Task Manager --> Startup tab and enable Command Line column to view where these programs are executed from." I cannot find anyplace to enable Command Line so I Googled that and found this "Right-click on the column header and enable these two options: Startup type and Command line. Now the origin of the “Program” entries are displayed. You can now see the full path and command-line of that startup entry." I have no idea what "column header" they mean but I was not able to get a Command Line so I just disabled the program, restarted my computer, and I don't have any birds at the moment.

Thanks for the video Jenny. I watched it and I did download Revo Uninstaller but since I already uninstalled the game it does not show in Revo. The video looked to me like I would be afraid to delete all that stuff anyway, just like when I tried to use CCleaner. The one time I really tried to let Ccleaner do what everybody said it could do, I had a problem with the game I was currently playing at the time when I had previously not had any problem with it.

Marian - Everlight and So Blond?

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I don't have either Everlight or So Blonde anymore.

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But what did you mean by "that could have been the problem with Everlight and So Blonde"? What problem?

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Originally Posted by oldbroad
But what did you mean by "that could have been the problem with Everlight and So Blonde"? What problem?

Both of those games used SecuROM DRM and could trigger antivirus when you tried to install or play them.

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Yes, that's it. The antivirus I switched to, though, had no problems with either game.

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Norton didn't give me a problem with either of those games. If Everlight is Everlight of Magic and Power. I played that in Window 7 though I think it was sluggish or something. I can't quite remember but no Norton warning. I played So Blonde in 2019 on my Windows 7 from a Shiny Loot download that was a couple of years on my computer and no Norton problem with that either as far as I can remember.

Anyway, this Norton was a "Data Protector" warning and I did ignore it but then had this other problem anyway, so I just shoudn't have bothered ignoring it. I have Norton to give me advice and I should just follow it. I know sometimes it may be false but it may turn out not to be. If I'm not going to listen to it, I might as well not have it at all. Although, certain games that are new such as a Carol Reed game, I would trust and understand that it is just new and that is why Norton is warning me.

Ah Marian, I hadn't seen what you posted earlier about those 2 games and AVG.

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