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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1227885
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I read about the dangers to the firefighters from the air quality... Winfrey said it was like breathing smoke through a wet mask. At their house up in the mountains, it's not quite as bad, but still awful. Marian, I think their home there is not too far from you... it's in Pine Mountain Lake.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1227888
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Pine Mountain Lake is about 75 miles from here. I remember years ago Winfrey telling me her brother lived three miles from where I am, although I don't know if that's still the case.

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1227890
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More hug Marian!

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: oldbroad] #1227942
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Keep safe, Marian, and anyone else who might be close to a danger zone hearts


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1227967
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My heart goes out to all of you on the west coast! hearts
When I was 14, my family (6 of us) was displaced by an apartment fire. We lost everything and had to start completely over. Ever since then, fire scares me to death. I know first hand what damage it can do.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1227968
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Marian, I'm sorry to hear about your ex-husband's passing. Cancer is so insidious. Since my husband's diagnosis two of our friends have died from cancer, both of them quite quickly.

I was reading an article in the Washington Post yesterday about the California fires, how the heat plumes are 10,000 feet higher than any previously recorded. It must be terrifying to live in parts of California these days, with the fire seasons getting so bad. Our Okanagan is a similar landscape and there have been terrible fires there in recent years with the summer heat and dry grass.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228452
09/19/20 02:50 PM
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Thanks, hagatha. I appreciate your kind words.

We are out of danger now with the fire(s), but the smoke is still very bad. I suspect this smoke will be around for a few more weeks, unfortunately.

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228455
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Marian, I'm glad you're out of danger from the actual fires now. Do you need a mask while in your home?

Here in Chicago, we are supposed to be seeing "hazy skies" and "milky white skies" next week from the smoke out there.

Does anybody else feel like people can't hear them when you talk to them through your masks? I have only been out a few times wearing one but found myself shouting as if the other person cannot hear me.

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228460
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So glad to hear at least the fire danger is past you. I'm reading about how dangerous the smoke is for people with COPD and other breathing iddues.

Oldbroad, I don't seem to have a problem with anyone understanding me, but I'm having a hard time! Before I got my hearing aid for my right ear which has severe nerve damage from measles when I was little, I relied on lip reading a lot. Didn't realize how much I did until I couldn't see people's faces while they are talking! The only place I venture out to is the grocery store and then only if I need meat, so my interactions are very short.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228466
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I have read that New York City was seeing hazy skies as a result of the smoke being blown across the country by the jet stream. I also read that it is starting to make itself felt in Northern Europe.

I don't need a mask in my home but we are keeping the windows closed and running fans. Before we did that, I was waking up every morning with a sore throat.

And I do think the masks can be impediments to communication. It takes more patience.

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228469
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So far I haven't had a problem understanding anybody else and nobody has implied that they could not hear me. It is just in my mind that I have to speak louder because of the mask. I've only been to two banks. One in the drive through but one I had to go inside and talk to somebody. I shouted!

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228479
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I finally lost it yesterday in a store where nobody was wearing masks even though there were signs everywhere stating that masks were required. It was a small liquor store and I raised my voice asked everybody if they really didn't care about anyone else, were they all that self-centered.

This being Canada, everyone looked sheepish and a couple of them went back to their cars to get masks. A couple of drunks shuffled around and mumbled a bit. But I was mad and if anyone had beaked off at me I'm not sure what I would have done.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228481
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Hagatha, you did what I have wanted to do on several occasions, but didn't have the nerve and instead mumbled under my breath. Good for you!

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: hagatha] #1228484
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Originally Posted by hagatha
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This being Canada, everyone looked sheepish and a couple of them went back to their cars to get masks. A couple of drunks shuffled around and mumbled a bit. But I was mad and if anyone had beaked off at me I'm not sure what I would have done.



I'm surprised you didn't get a few "Sorry, eh" grin

In our neck of the woods folks seem to be taking it more seriously. The last numbers here have not been good. The state had the largest increase in cases since this insanity started. Our health department is reporting that about 20% of past cases so far are coming back in with secondary issues, even though the recovery rate is increasing. I think that's what's giving people food for thought.


I feel a lot more like I do now, then when I first got here

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228490
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Cases are on the rise here in Canada, too, mostly among young people who can't stop socializing (was I that stupid and selfish when I was 20?). Of course, kids are now back in school, too. We're back to only going out for necessities.

The lingering effects of COVID are pretty depressing. The young woman behind the till during the infamous liquor store incident told me she'd had COVID five months ago and still wasn't feeling well -- yet she was only wearing a plastic face shield, which is useless. I wonder where people are getting their information?


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: hagatha] #1228492
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Originally Posted by hagatha
The young woman behind the till during the infamous liquor store incident told me she'd had COVID five months ago and still wasn't feeling well -- yet she was only wearing a plastic face shield, which is useless.

They're not useless. In some cases they're better than masks -- especially for people who tend to pick at the masks with their hands.

Originally Posted by hagatha
I wonder where people are getting their information?

Maybe from websites like this
https://www.aarp.org/health/healthy-living/info-2020/shields-compared-to-masks.html

Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228524
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I think it depends on the shield. I've seen shields that cover the entire face and extend down below the chin (we have two of those and wear them with masks when we're in the hospital), but the one this young woman had on barely covered her mouth. There's no way it was effective.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228891
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i have omar 50 PCS Disposable FACE MASK you wear 10 days, i have too much in my life to count how long did i wear it. i do not sit on the computer all day, i am busy, not perfect.

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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228893
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We're officially in a second wave now in four provinces, including BC.

So many people not wearing masks. I'm starting to call them out in stores all the time now. Signs up everywhere saying masks are mandatory but nobody paying attention.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228894
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my mask is cheap, i have to pick at it, it moves as you talk, that why i pick at it , i guess i am a bad person..
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hey're not useless. In some cases they're better than masks -- especially for people who tend to pick at the masks with their hands.

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I like my masks. They were made by a local company of women who make custom pillows and stuff like that. They are 4 layers thick with a slot for a filter if you want. They are cotton, very comfortable and I wash them once a week.

Good for you hagatha. That's the problem with mask mandates - who is going to enforce them.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228896
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Hi, Marian, Yes they still live near you.. they went and stayed at a friends house as they have a swamp cooler and it was pulling the smoke into the house... it was terrible at PML! I only went out when I had to and wore a mask.. Carol drove to Modesto and bought a hugh air purifier. This was not a fun trip but we had to do some things...had to. Glad to be back home. Glad to know you are ok. I thought about you while I was there.

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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228897
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Thanks, Winfrey. This was certainly not a good time for a visit so I assumed that you and Carol really needed to come out here or else you would have traveled here some other time. We have a couple of air purifiers in our house now which certainly do help. Good to know that your relatives still live nearby.

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Originally Posted by family
my mask is cheap, i have to pick at it, it moves as you talk, that why i pick at it , i guess i am a bad person..
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hey're not useless. In some cases they're better than masks -- especially for people who tend to pick at the masks with their hands.



Nobody thinks you're a bad person. My mask makes my nose itch like crazy. There's one spot on the right side of my nose that ALWAYS itches, every single time. grin Every now and then I just have to scratch, and then I have to sanitize my hands and start all over again. But I think it's important.


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Re: Covid 19 - Pandemic thread Part 2 [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1228916
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thanks hagatha, you made me feel better.masks
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[I bought these because i had previously bought this brand at a local store. These however were a different color and the strings have popped off of most of them when we try to remove them from the box. Also they do not form to the nose. I would not recommend buying these masks./quote] and [quote]The mask has a wire for the nose area, however, the wire does not form! We've tried two different masks from this order and the wire does not really bend much around the nose area and leaves the top of the mask completely loose. Will never buy again and it was a waste of money! I have used similar masks and the wire is thicker and forms better to the nose! DO NOT BUY THIS BRAND!
my masks were bought at amazon, by my sister, i bought 2 cloth kroger masks, jenny forgot since this the quality gone down..

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