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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124250
03/04/03 11:25 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't sweat that, COL. Did you know that all serial killers brush their teeth? Oh no!! I brush my teeth!!! laugh (see?)

Yes, that's a completely ridiculous correlation. I play lots of violent games, and I'm completely harmless (and I'll pummel the living daylights out of anyone that claims otherwise... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> )

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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124251
03/04/03 11:32 PM
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Shorah,

Do you regard works like Freddi Fish, Manhole ME, Cluefinders, & Spyfox as adventures? I always thought they were. They seemed to give my kids the same sort of "I soved it" thrill so at least they're good training for the "real thing"
yes? no?


games in boxes:)

I think its possible to come out of the "niche" and reach other folks.

I sincerely hope that MystOnline / URU manages to do just that.

My kids enjoyed "exploring" Myst long before they were able to understand how to play it. We've tried copies of Myst on all sorts of folks, usually with good results. Many adventure games demand you solve a puzzle before you can go very far. The Myst/Riven model allows you to simply wander good sized areas first, working on puzzles as you get around to them. IMHO, this is less intimidating to first timers, which may explain part of Myst's larger appeal.

I wonder how many adventure gamers began with Humongous or Cyan titles?

My kids are now cheerfully trying out some of our adventure games at their own pace. My 14 yr old refused to play Syberia wiht my Mother, my son, and myself because she didnt want to be "spoiled"

heh. She makes me proud laugh

I hope there are many good games like it out there when she is older.

If Uru does very well, adventure game companies might suddenly find they were popular with the publishing companies again. Whether that would be a good or bad thing, I dont know. Gatorlaw makes good points on the topic.

just my two zorkmids,

Salar

Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124252
03/05/03 12:31 AM
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This has been a delightful thread to read, GIRLGEEK. I suspect you didn't realize what interesting ideas and opinions your posting was going to lead to. smile

I play Mahjongg Master as a "thumb twiddler". That's the game where you have to recognize pairs and click them off until none are left. The deal is it is TIMED, and you know how much I dislike timed puzzles. But this is different in that it requires quick scanning of the pile of tiles, immediate recognition of pairs and, if there are three of a kind, which pair will present the greater benefit, and then snappy mouse movement and clicking. This is my version of an "Action Game." So I'm not completely averse to the adrenaline rush which comes with high paced action. It's mostly the killing and maiming I don't care for. Oh, none of my young hotshots have been able to match my scores on Mahjongg Master -- a source of secret glee for me. laugh

However, this thread has forced me to look at my attitude toward the "shoot-em-up" crowd and confess that I have had a feeling of "superiority" because I prefer the "thoughtful" and "mentally demanding" Adventure/Puzzle games. I repent and in the future will strike those thoughts out of my mind as soon as they appear, as I am sure they will. laugh


It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -- Aristotle
Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124253
03/06/03 09:43 AM
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Reading through this thread (and, man, people complained about the verbiage in The Longest Jouney!!) I realize that I do like some of the classic first person shooters (Doom, Quake 1&2) but b/c I have don't have the reflexes/hand-eye coordination to play them straight, I play them in God mode and, therefore, as adventures! I like the searching through corridors for keys, etc and working my way to the next level. I can't tolerate the sustained adrenaline rush of peeking around corners, ducking and shooting. Too spooky and draining for me (I preferred watching my son do this). In God mode I can sit and shoot and move on. It's cheating but it works for me. Now in terms of FPSs and violence, I am a Black Belt and have been teaching Tang Soo Do for 12 years but there is a developed calmness in kata and sparring (moving meditation, if you will) that I can't get into while gaming b/c at the computer only the hands and eyes are involved, not the whole body. But I love puzzles which is why I play adventures and play FPSs and some RPGs with cheat codes (I liked Diablo 1&2 but once I get bogged down at higher levels I quit feeling that I have enjoyed what I played and I have no qualms about moving onto something else. Younger people enjoy the challenge of finishing the game but, certainly, age and accumulated wisdom teach us to set priorities). [BTW - I remember playing Dungeon Master on the Amiga - the first dungeon crawl and having nightmares about blue beasts for weeks!!)


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Re: Why do other genre gamers hate us so much??? #124254
03/06/03 11:08 PM
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