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Beyond Good and Evil #126736
03/25/04 05:29 PM
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I just finished my first mission and am going into the the underground headquarters to get a pearl back. I've made it this far without cheats but only because they didn't work with my version of the game lol

Anyway, I need to rebind some of my keys if I'm going to get into harder and harder fighting and I can't seem to figure out where I can do that. Any hints or outright explanations?

AND...if anyone wants to share some working cheats "just in case" (like the final boss fight)...I'd be eternally grateful.

Re: Beyond Good and Evil #126737
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A weird thing happened the last time I double clicked to run the game...I got a setup window in there I found the key binding option. I also found that the setup menu is available in my start menu. I had been using a shortcut to run the game and I couldn't find any controls while running it. Thank you anyway smile

Re: Beyond Good and Evil #126738
03/25/04 10:49 PM
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burpee,

i see you found out that htere is a separate config program. i never lile that when you have to go outside the gmae to change keys.

i played wihtout the patch and there are no wroking cheats. i don't know if there are any trainers that work with thepatched version. no cheat codes though.

i purposely did not install the patch as i read that there is a dead end bug in it.


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03/25/04 11:14 PM
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I did not apply a patch. What was it suppose to fix? The game seems to be running flawlessly...it's just getting harder and harder lol I also don't care for some of the controls when the camera is fixed and that makes moving Jade difficult sometimes. Other than that, it's an EXCELLENT game smile

I call it "intelligent". There's lots of people around and they look at you and are interesting. Even the bridge moving when Jade runs over it is cool. Very nicely done. Now, if you could just bypass the hard parts laugh

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03/26/04 08:15 AM
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Hi Burpee,
I made it to the final boss and then gave up. I managed to get all the pearls and pictures of the animals, with the help of my Granddaughter a couple of times. I couldn't beat the final boss.

I would have loved the game, if they had put in a easy mode for some of us who are not very good with the keyboard. The game disc you get for getting all the pearls sure isn't worth all the trouble you have trying to get some of them. You don't need all the pearls to finish the game.
Good Luck!
Kay smile

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03/26/04 11:37 AM
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Zanthia, I thought I knew what trainers were (as in the beginning of Hobbit). I think I have seen you mention them before and now I'm confused? Please explain. wave

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a trainer is a 3rd party program. you run it in the background while the game is on. because it is based on a game's exe file, it will only work if your version of the game is the same as the one the trainer is made on. this includes patches and even what country the game is from, so a trainer made on say a UK version for the gmae may not work with the US version. cheat codes are always preferable to me as they are not version specific.


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Burpee,

you asked about what the patch fixes-- BG&E what\'s new in patch


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Thank you Zanthia, I WILL be back with future questions. If you have any kids you know what you're in for!! (No I will not be asking why the sky is blue. I couldn't care less. . .unless it's part of a game. lol )

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Re: Beyond Good and Evil #126745
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burpee, I just finished the game yesterday, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone who asks. I'm glad you're giving it a go.

I'm useless when it comes to combat and driving, yet managed to explore most of the areas in the game. I gave up on the races, but enjoyed the paddle game with Francis. I found a combat power up in Ming Tzu's shop to be invaluable, especially towards the end. You'll need to learn how to use it effectively, though. In the aerial phase of your standard power up attack, tapping the left mouse button will send out homing projectiles. Very handy for taking out flying enemies, or lots of nasties at one go.

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Thank you Zanthia...looks like I don't need it since I'm happy with the way it plays and looks. I also have not had any crashes (fingers crossed smile )

Hi Feardust, I will go back and get the combat power up. I didn't bother buying Ming's pearls either as they are very expensive and I'm not that keen to get whatever prize I win at the end.

I loved the races and beat 1 and 2 easily. I couldn't win at the pallet/paddle game if you paid me though, haha. Funny how we each are good at something different. For the races I used the arrows to guide the boat and held the power down the whole time. For the pallet/paddle game..well, I just can't aim or do it fast enough smile

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Hi burpee. If you're enjoying the races and winning most of them, you don't need to buy pearls. There are more than enough in the game world for you to complete your missions, if you don't feel the need to unlock the mini game.

If you want to take advantage of Ubisoft's internet code to unlock yet another game, however, a large number of pearls could work in your favour.

The paddle game is frustrating at times, but I've noticed that Francis doesn't seem to be any more difficult to beat regardless of if you decide to play a training session or for the pearl.

I was so bad on the races that during one course I was completely disorientated after a collision and ended up going the wrong way around the track. I kept wondering why I didn't see the other racers!
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Hahaha, I drive like that everyday laugh

Ok, I'll give Francis another try. I sometimes get past him on training but not often. If winning the pearl is about the same difficulty, I'll try it smile

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Good Luck! smile

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Kay,

did you have your granddaughter try the final battle. if she could get help you get all the pearls i would think she could do the battle.

i had to have my husband do many part so the gmae including lots stealth parts and the some of the boss battles as well as the races. i was only able to win the first race and do a couple of bosses on my own. he still couldn't win hovercraft race 4 or do the last 2 slaughterhouse races. yet once he got down the strategy for beating the final boss he said it wasn't hard at all. after doing hte first paddle game, he never even tried the second. there was no point as i wasn't going ot get all the pearls anyway and i was going to have more than enough to get everything. I was able to win a couple of times in practice( first paddle game) but couldn't do it when it counted even though it wasn't any tougher


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Hi Zanthia,
I made it through part of the final fight, but when I got to the part where you had to hit him so many times without being knocked down, I couldn't do it. I did ok with the left, up, and right, but when he was above me, he knocked me down every time. I couldn't get out of the way.

It took both of us using the keyboard to win Looters Cavern 4 and the last 2 Slaughterhouse races, but we had fun doing it.
When I get her back over here, we will try the final battle again since your husband said it wasn't too hard. I just need to figure out how to get enough hits in without getting knocked down.
Thanks
Kay

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Kayc, with regards to the section of the final battle when the boss is above you: you shouldn't try to dodge it. You need to activate your range attack and quickly fire a disc at him. It will then repeat its pattern of attack.

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Hi Feardust,
Thanks! I went back and tried that today, but by the time I activate it and fire the disc, he has already knocked me down. I guess I'm just not fast enough. lol
I will keep trying for awhile. I have enjoyed the game even if I can't finish the final battle. Thanks smile
Kay

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kay,

this is what my husband said to do:

To beat this boss you need to hit when he appears on the Left, Right, Left and Right. He will then hover above you. When he is above you, you need to dodge him (right mouse button). After you dodge him he will then appear on either the right or left side - hit it. The pattern will then repeat itself. Important note: If you don't dodge him when he's above and then hit him on the side, you will not beat him no matter how many other times you hit him.


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You're welcome, Kayc. I didn't realise that there was an alternative solution until I read Zanthia's post. Her method sounds a lot easier and far more elegant. I must go back and play through the final boss fight again; I rather enjoyed it.

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Hey Zanthia, and feardust, happydance
I did it! I finally beat the final boss. Zanthia go give your husband a big hug for me. Tell him thank you very, very much. His tip to use the right mouse button to dodge is what I needed to do. A little later, it took a while getting use to hitting on the reverse side but wasn't too bad. Thank you all so much, I didn't think I was going to be able to finish this game.
Kay happydance

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great going Kay bravo

gave him a big hug for you smile


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Wonderful news, Kayc. smile

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Hey Zanthia,

I never even thought of dodging when I was playing (I wish I had, I might have beaten it faster). I just timed (though it had to be perfect and released just right and I got it wrong more than a few times) a charged attack and was able to hit him when he was above me.

Congrats, Kay.

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Vik,

i didn't think of it. WHen my husband was doing that battle and the boss never seemed to die, we realized something must be wrong with the way we were doing ht ehitting when he was above. so i went to the official forums and that is where i learned of the dodging is the easiest way to do it. other methids were mentioned including i thihk what you described as it did involve perfect timing.


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