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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: Jenny100] #158342
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My turn:

Secrets of Da Vinci
Paradise
Secret Files Tunguska
Keepsake
Ankh
Moment of Silence
The Riddle of Master Lu
Conspiracies
Runaway
Syberia
The Longest Journey
Kings Quest 6
Broken Sword 1
Legend of Kyrandia 2
Still Life
Pandora Directive
Gabriel Knight 2
Phantasmagoria
Black Mirror
Monkey Island 2


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: oldman] #158364
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Hi all,
Mucky is indeed a term of endearment kissy - just ask Nickie, the highest of all the muckys.
TLJ leads the way narrowly, and Keepsake proves the most annoying voice ever doesn't prevent a game being popular.
27 games mentioned so far that weren't on last years list, and not all of them new - Loom and Pilgrim to name just two.
Well done to those who list alphabetically, bravo and the comments are fun Betty Lou.
Keep em coming.


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #158367
06/12/07 05:19 PM
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oldman, Riddle of Master Lu is a blast from the past for me. I had forgot all about that great game. It makes me miss the old days of Sierra and LucasFilms games.


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: Space Quest Fan] #158457
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Originally Posted By: Space Quest Fan
oldman, Riddle of Master Lu is a blast from the past for me. I had forgot all about that great game. It makes me miss the old days of Sierra and LucasFilms games.


It was an under mentioned under appreciated oldie but goodie so thought I'd at least get it mentioned.

Kind of similar to the first two Broken Sword games. thanks


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: oldman] #158468
06/12/07 09:51 PM
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Hi oldman smile

Not under appreciated by me !!

I love it and have played it many times thumbsup

[So difficult to generate a (short evil ) list rotfl]

Cheers.

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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #158471
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I loved Riddle of Master Lu, too (although I could have done without the puzzle in the lab). wink It was a wonderful game. And it runs great in DOSBox!!

Great pick, John! I should have included it on my own list!

Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: Marian] #158523
06/13/07 02:31 AM
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Nope Flotsam, I'm just a wizard to the high MaG mucky muck. razz But endearment now, I'll take all I can get! kissy lol I alphabetized just for you, dear.


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: nickie] #158526
06/13/07 03:07 AM
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Way to go Nickie, and please apologise to the exhalted one for me.


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #158563
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In no particular order:
1-Myst
2-Zork Nemesis
3-Shivers 1
4-Gabriel Knight: Beast Within
5-Lighthouse
6-Syberia 1
7-Longest Journey
8-Still Life
9-Amber: Journeys Beyond
10-Tex Murphy: Under a Killing Moon
11-Dark Fall: Journal
12-Scratches
13-Riven
14-Myst III
15-Grim Fandango
16-Keepsake
17-Black Mirror
18-Syberia 2
19-Last Half of Darkness
20-Morpheus


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #158711
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Listed alphabetically - going back to the initial release of adventure games on cd-rom media.

Azrael's Tear (1996 Mindscape)
Beyond Atlantis (Atlantis 2)
Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (1997 Legend Entertainment)
Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Damned
Lighthouse (1996 Sierra)
Myst / RealMyst
Myst II: Riven
Myst IV: Revelation
Myst V: End of Ages
Myst URU / POTS
Obsidian (1996 SegaSoft)
RAMA (1996 Sierra)
Riddle of the Sphinx 1
Shivers 1
Syberia 1
Tex Murphy: Pandora Directive (1996 Access Software)
Tex Murphy: Under a Killing Moon (1994 Access Software)
The Longest Journey
TimeLapse (1996 GTE Entertainment)
Zork Nemesis (1996 Activision)

FWIW, I think that Azrael's Tear had the most engaging (winning; attractive; pleasing) storyline of any game I have ever played - perhaps not as deep as the Myst series, but equally as memorable, and eminently replayable.


Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: Mary] #158716
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Thanks flotsam for doing this, here's this years list (unfortunately I have a backlog of current games I just haven't had time to play!):

In no particular order:

Syberia I
Discworld Noir
The Longest Journey
Broken Sword I
Still Life
Dracula Resurrection
The Messenger (Louvre)
Last Half of Darkness
Tears of Betrayal
Black Mirror
Secrets of Da Vinci - The Forbidden Manuscript
Agon - The Mysterious Codex
Gabriel Knight - Sins of the Father
Gabriel Knight - Blood of the Damned
Jack the Ripper
Al Emmo & the Lost Dutchman's Mine
Time Stand Still
Tunguska
Lunar Deep
The Moment of Silence


Pretty much the same as last year with a few additions - had to let Nibiru go - I loved it but needed to be replaced with something with a better ending!! 20 was great but still oh so difficult to make the choices! wink

Last edited by chrissie; 06/13/07 02:13 PM.
Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #158768
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Pete, boy do I agree with you about Azrael's Tear, and I'm appalled that I forgot to include it on my list. hardwall I'm sure glad it's received a mention; I thought it was an amazing game. thumbsup

Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: Marian] #158779
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Jenny I may be wrong but I believe that Exile (Myst 3) came out in 2001, not pre 2000.


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: JohnBoy] #158825
06/13/07 05:15 PM
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Games with 10 or more at this stage are Black Mirror, GK2, Grim Fandango, Keepsake, TLJ, Myst, Riven, Scratches, Still Life, Syberia 1 & 2, and Tunguska.
Surprisingly, Gothos, The Scroll and Nightmare Ned are yet to be mentioned razz


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #158847
06/13/07 06:00 PM
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Flotsam,
Those go on your Games Suitable for Coasters List, right? smile


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: LadyKestrel] #158969
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Hey Nightmare Ned was...refreshingly different. I always wondered what it would be like to be thoroughly flushed.

Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: Becky] #159028
06/14/07 01:11 AM
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lol Er...Becky???
And Flotsam, don't forget Fork in the Tale for that special list!


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: nickie] #159057
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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #159133
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flotsam, hi,

Here is the vote of the quasi-Irish jury:

1. Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned
2. Pandora Directive
3. Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
4. The Longest Journey
5. Syberia
6. Syberia 2
7. The Moment of Silence
8. Obsidian
9. Monkey Island 2: Le Chuck's Revenge
10. Riven
11. Secret Files: Tunguska
12. Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers
13. Discworld Noir
14. Grim Fandango
15. Day of the Tentacle
16. TimeLapse
17. Simon the Sorceror
18. King's Quest VI
19. Under a Killing Moon
20. Still Life

Best of luck with the compilation duties,
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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #159485
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1)Obsidian
2)Timelapse
3)GK series - GK2 (edited by MaG)
4)Tex Murphy series - Tex Murphy Overseer (edited by MaG)
5)Shivers
6)Azrael's tear
7)Darkfall 1
8)Amber
9)Myst 1
10)Temujin
11)Return to Zork
12)Qin
13)Jack the ripper
14)Byzantine
15)Nine the last resort
16)Buried in time
17)Cristal skull
18)Black dahlia
19)Of light and darkness
20)Bad Mojo
Emptyhead spoke...

Last edited by MaG; 06/15/07 08:21 AM. Reason: added the title of the game posted by emptyhead below
Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: ] #159490
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emptyhead, you can't name a series and count it as one. You need to redo your #3 and 4.

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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #159593
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There are many deserving games out there and with great difficulty I came up with my top ten list and I never thought it would look like this.

1-----The Longest Journey, due to rich detailed characters and a totally engrossing story, unlike anything that came before

2-----Gabriel Knight 1 Sins on the Fathers, The only game I recall that had me ducking worried what was lurking around the corner.

3-----Circle of Blood, BS1 Again story and character driven with great plot that kept you pushing forward.

4-----Lost In Time The Sierra oldie with unique inventory McGuyver type puzzles that I had not seen done before.

5-----Dreamfall, excellent follow up to the original with rich characters, detail and amazing story.

6-----Gabriel Knight 2 Jensen's blend of fact and fiction drove me to doing research just to see what was and wasn't. She almost had me convinced old king Ludwig was a werewolf.

7-----Syberia 1 It could have been higher on the list but the others had something that appealed more to me. Everything about it was outstanding.

8----Kings Quest 7 I know much maligned, however, it is unique for its time. Very funny moments, outstanding graphics comparable to a Disney movie. It was a departure from the previous games in the series.

9----Kings Quest 6 I think it was the best of the the series to that point

10----Nancy Drew Secrets of the Old clock. Before you laugh and scream heresy for placing this one ahead of a thousand others it had some interesting aspects I had not encountered before. (1) I still cannot cut a dress pattern with a mouse. I doubt many grizzled old timers could. I havn't tried it with a pair of shears. And this old guy climbed Mt. St. Helens. Challenges I say. (2) Every time I ran into a puzzle that slowed me a bit I could jump into that fancy blue convertible and drive around town. What game ever let you do that? Not April, Kate, Gabriel or even Sherlock got to drive a car. For my money it belongs on this list even if it is dismissed as a little girl's game by many.

We will leave it at ten no sense in trying to add more so that's my top ten for better or worse. You can tell I like story driven games with good characters.

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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: oldmariner] #159620
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This was the first year I took KQ7 off of my list, and I almost feel like I snubbed an old friend. One of my favorites, but this year I didn't put all my personal favorites on the list. Glad you mentioned it, oldmariner!


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Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: nickie] #159627
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4)Tex Murphy Overseer

Re: The return of the List - 2007 game recommendations [Re: ] #159633
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Thanks emptyhead and no need to apologise.
And oldmariner, I might well vote for The Messenger simply because of the latex suit, so don't let anyone besmirch the car.
BS1, Dreamfall and Moment of Silence join the 10s and Buried in Time and Of Light and Darkness are new.
Some top games not yet mentioned? Its a matter of opinion but maybe Traitors Gate, Full Throttle and Faust. Plus Isabelle of course.
Ico, Fahrenheit and Outcast have all been mentioned on this list before but not yet, but are probably being saved for the Dark Side (which I think is where they belong).


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