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Re: Dreamfall. Wow. [Re: Becky] #337778
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I read the stuff on his blog and all he says is that sequels to Dreamfall (before and after!) are on the back burner and he doesn't know when they'll come out. What a bulletin that is!

One question I'd like to raise relates to just who Ragnar is in the Funcom power structure. I don't know. Perhaps someone here would have some info on that. For example, is he high up enough to influence policy, or is he "just" an employee? Also, does anyone know what The Secret World is?

It turns out that all this is just an excuse anyway to make my 100th post. I didn't think it would ever happen, but now I'm somebody. yes


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Re: Dreamfall. Wow. [Re: RayBres] #337789
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Im very far fom expert but i think ragnar is the leader of the whole funcom co. and the developer of tlj and dreamfall

Re: Dreamfall. Wow. [Re: LindaMarion] #337799
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This is what Wikipedia says about Ragnar Tornquist.

bravo Raybres! More, more.

Re: Dreamfall. Wow. [Re: MaG] #337812
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RayBres -- and here I'm reading entire future plots into those words (and what's said later in the response section). lol

Okay, entire future plots is a bit of an exaggeration.

Re: Dreamfall. Wow. [Re: Becky] #337886
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From that Wiki article:
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Tørnquist is credited with popularizing the term "modern adventure", a term used to describe contemporary adventure game design that began with games such as The Longest Journey, Broken Sword, and Syberia. He felt that a new term was needed to describe this new generation of adventure games since "the classic point-and-click 'graphical adventure' is dead... The point of the 'modern adventure' [...] is to bring adventure gaming back into the mainstream, and to use technology and gameplay advances to bring the genre forward into the 'next generation'."[1]

I don't think the Wikipedia article is correct in what they said about "modern adventure." TLJ and Syberia were classic point-and-click, as were the first two Broken Sword games. On the cited link, Ragnar is referring to Dreamfall as the "modern adventure," not TLJ.

finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Jenny100] #338079
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I finally started Dreamfall tonight, and it is definitely amazing! I think that it is my favorite adventure yet. I played for around 4 hours tonight, and finally said that I have to stop. The controls take some getting used to and I don't like how I have to fight people. But the graphics and story are great. I like fantasy games (primarily because I like the fantasy environments) and fantasy with adventure is a great combination. The graphics really submerse you in the game. Personally, I like that the game is easy and isn't full of very challenging puzzles. I like that it is not point and click.

I just finished TLJ, the other day, and then decided to go ahead and start Dreamfall. It is great seeing the things that occurred in TLJ and then seeing them ten years later. I thought TLJ was decent. It was buggy and didn't compare to Syberia, which I think came out around the same time, but still somewhat enjoyed it. Dreamfall is a huge step forward from TLJ. I was very very surprised at the ending of the TLJ.

Anyways Dreamfall seems to be a truly great game and I hope to see more from Funcom.

And Mag, thank you for the excellent walkthroughs for both of the games, couldn't have done it without your help.

Preston

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Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Preston C.] #338081
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I agree with you Preston C. Well the fight scenes didn't bother me because they were too easy and casual. The game is great, it's like Alice being in wonderland although I disagree with you on the 'buggy' issue of TLJ. Apart from one bug (where a patch fixed it) the whole game was an hymn on how an adventure game must be built! Syberia is a totally different game but a masterpiece too! (one of my favourites).

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Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Taurnil] #338140
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Glad to be of help, Preston.

I agree with you guys. I am not an action or arcadey gamer (except SuperCow and laugh SuperGranny) but I enjoyed Dreamfall - gaming, story and puzzles.

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: MaG] #338273
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Dreamfall made me crazy because I'd keep getting stuck on the stealth or those annoying timed matching puzzles that I kept missing and had to keep doing over and over and over and over ........and over over and over over and.... over and over over and over over and over over ...

That kind of thing is both boring and frustrating. If any new adventure games are made like this, I'd like to be warned in advance so I don't make the mistake of wasting money on them. If I want action in a game, I'd much rather play an action/adventure that includes cheats.

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Jenny100] #338275
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lol Jenny. I spent time analyzing those puzzles, and had a theory that the symbol/pattern shifts were usually close together. Then, after several attempts, I decided that I must have been imagining things when I thought they were close together.

I usually got them after about the 5th or 6th "over."

Were the symbol shifts totally random?

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Becky] #338278
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Okay, Jenny! wink

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: MaG] #338355
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i think it was absolute terrible and unfair.mags walkthrough said the first time match puzzle needed 4 matches ok
but she said the last one was 7 matches i think about same time allocated.it was almost impossible for any normal guy

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: LindaMarion] #338372
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Maybe so, but it's still preferable to being chased around an underground cavern by a 20ft troll. laugh


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Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Rushes] #338400
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rushes - i didnt understand that.could you please explain?tia

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: LindaMarion] #338440
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LindaMarion,

There is a puzzle that includes hiding from a big monster that can get you killed.

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: MaG] #338444
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Oh yes. do you mean that horrible creature bit like a obese man that had tubes attached over him?

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: LindaMarion] #338451
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LindaMarion, sounds as though you were lucky enough to miss the big troll - do you remember the underground section, playing as April, where you had to run around different chambers and fiddle with runes? That was the part of the game that almost defeated me. Compared to that, matching a series of symbols to open a lock was an absolute doddle. smile


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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Dreamfall made me crazy because I'd keep getting stuck on the stealth or those annoying timed matching puzzles that I kept missing and had to keep doing over and over and over and over ........and over over and over over and.... over and over over and over over and over over ...

That kind of thing is both boring and frustrating. If any new adventure games are made like this, I'd like to be warned in advance so I don't make the mistake of wasting money on them. If I want action in a game, I'd much rather play an action/adventure that includes cheats.


Well said! I definitely agree. I prefer to leave the fighting out of the adventure. If you want to fight do it in a action game, but not an adventure!, in my opinion. There are plenty of action games, but I definitely would not like to see adventure games have fighting in them.

Oh, and Mag, your walkthrough for TLJ was especially helpful. That game would have been impossible for me to finish it, without a walkthrough. There were so many weird items to put together. That is one thing I didn't like about that game. Dreamfall though is a major improvement as far as that goes.

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Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Rushes] #338456
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i dont remember that at all.could you copy the sentence or sentences from the mag walkthrough and paste them here and illl look again. thanks

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Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: LindaMarion] #338461
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It's the section almost immediately before the guy in the greenhouse that you mentioned earlier.


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Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: Rushes] #338546
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cant remember it.seems i must have missed it some how
oh goodie

Re: finished TLJ and have finally started Dreamfall... [Re: LindaMarion] #339307
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There is an update on Ragnar's site posted recently about TLJ.

http://ragnartornquist.com/?p=461#more-461

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Re: Dreamfall. Wow. [Re: Becky] #339310
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THanks Preston, Becky posted the link a couple days ago.

Originally Posted By: Becky
More, very recent information here on Ragnar Tornquist's blog.




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OOPS! My mistake.

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