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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: mcc] #365456
07/24/08 02:58 PM
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1. Morrowind

Daylight

2. Gothic 2
3. Gothic 1
4. The Witcher
5. Divine Divinity
6. Arx Fatalis
7. Baldur's Gate 2
8. Boiling Point - still playing this one.
9. Jade Empire

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: pantheon] #366027
07/25/08 03:17 PM
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ok, we are in the 13 hour home stretch.
I will be away for a day and will post final results when I get back. In the meantime my modest (though not so rpg challenged this time) list follows

Witcher
Twinsun's Odyssey
Thief
Realms of the Haunting
Portal
Outcast
Oblivion
Indigo Prophecy
Ico
Half LIfe 2
Gothic
FEAR
Divine Divinity
Bioshock


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #366710
07/27/08 02:07 AM
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Hi all,
Its a new number 1 this year, and I for one, even with my limited rpg experience, am not surprised. From the opening sequence it grabbed me and hasn't let go.
Lots of new games for me to play, if ever I find the time, and new worlds to conquer and bludgeon into submission. Perhaps one day I will even graduate to a more gentle approach.
A few more console games listed this year, and given the number of different consoles out there now it probably isn't surprising.
Two lists follow as usual, and also as usual all errors are mine.
Thanks all wave


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #366711
07/27/08 02:08 AM
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14 The Witcher
12 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
10 Divine Divinity
10 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
10 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
8 Planescape Torment
7 Bioshock
7 Gothic 2
5 Gothic
5 Jade Empire
5 Zanzarah
4 Anachronox
4 Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magic Obscura
4 Baldur’s Gate
4 Baldur’s Gate 2
4 Baldurs Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal
4 Deus Ex
4 Fallout
4 Half Life 2
4 Mass Effect
4 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
4 Outcast
4 Prey
3 American Magee’s Alice
3 Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
3 Clive Barker’s Undying
3 Fable: The Lost Chapters
3 Half Life
3 Halo
3 Neverwinter Nights
3 Neverwinter Nights 2: mask of the Betrayer
3 Psychonauts
3 Realms of the Haunting
3 Sacred/Sacred Plus
3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords
3 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold
3 Vampire Masquerade: Redemption

2 Avencast: Rise of the Mage, Betrayal at Antara, Beyond Divinity, Beyond Good and Evil, Diablo, Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction, Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern, Dungeon Seige 2, Fate, F.E.A.R, Ghost Master, Gothic 3, Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms, Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit, Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour, Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark, No One Lives Forever, Portal, Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness, Silent Hill 3, Stalker, System Shock 2, Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines

1 Advent Rising, Aikens Artifact, Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare, Anvil of Dawn, Arx Fatalis, Baldurs Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, Barnyard, Bloodrayne, Boiling Point, Bully, Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, Chrono Trigger, Civilization Chronicles, Condemned: Criminal Origins, Diablo 2, Drakan: Order of the Flame, Dungeon Siege, Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon, Fallout 2, F.E.A.R: Perseus Mandate, Freelancer, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Heroes of Might and Magic 3: The Restoration of Erathia, The Hobbit, Ico, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine, Katamari Damacy, Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos, Lands of Lore 2: Guardians of Destiny, Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Mafia, Manhunt 2, Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer, Might and Magic 9, Might and Magic: World of Xeen, Neverwinter Nights 2, Okami, Overlord, Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords, Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to Be a Hero, Return to Krondor, Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, Silent Hill: Origins, Sims 2: Seasons, Sims 2: Castaway, Sims 2: Night Life, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Star Wars: Republic Commando, Star Wars: Jedi Knight, Star Wars: Jedi Outcast, Super Mario Galaxy, SWAT: Target Liberty, Tekken 5, Thief 2: The Metal Age, Thief 3: Deadly Shadows, Tomb Raider 3: The Lost Artifact, Twinsuns Odyssey, Two Worlds, Ultima Underworld, Wizardry 7, Yakuza


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #366712
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1 Advent Rising
1 Aikens Artifact
3 American Magee’s Alice
1 Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare
4 Anachronox
1 Anvil of Dawn
4 Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magic Obscura
1 Arx Fatalis
2 Avencast: Rise of the Mage
4 Baldur’s Gate
1 Baldurs Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast
4 Baldur’s Gate 2
4 Baldurs Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal
3 Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
1 Barnyard
2 Betrayal at Antara
2 Beyond Divinity
2 Beyond Good and Evil
7 Bioshock
1 Bloodrayne
1 Boiling Point
1 Bully
1 Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
1 Chrono Trigger
1 Civilization Chronicles
3 Clive Barker’s Undying
1 Condemned: Criminal Origins
4 Deus Ex
2 Diablo
1 Diablo 2
2 Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
10 Divine Divinity
2 Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern
1 Drakan: Order of the Flame
1 Dungeon Siege
2 Dungeon Seige 2
1 Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon
10 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
12 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
3 Fable: The Lost Chapters
4 Fallout
1 Fallout 2
2 Fate
2 F.E.A.R.
1 F.E.A.R: Perseus Mandate
1 Freelancer
2 Ghost Master
5 Gothic
7 Gothic 2
2 Gothic 3
3 Half Life
4 Half Life 2
3 Halo
1 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
1 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
1 Heroes of Might and Magic 3: The Restoration of Erathia
2 Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms
1 Hobbit, The
1 Ico
1 Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
2 Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit
5 Jade Empire
1 Katamari Damacy
1 Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos
1 Lands of Lore 2: Guardians of Destiny
1 Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
1 Mafia
1 Manhunt 2
4 Mass Effect
4 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
2 Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour
1 Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer
1 Might and Magic 9
1 Might and Magic: World of Xeen
3 Neverwinter Nights
2 Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
1 Neverwinter Nights 2
3 Neverwinter Nights 2: mask of the Betrayer
2 No One Lives Forever
1 Okami
1 Overlord
4 Outcast
8 Planescape Torment
2 Portal
4 Prey
3 Psychonauts
1 Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
1 Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to Be a Hero
2 Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness
3 Realms of the Haunting
1 Return to Krondor
3 Sacred/Sacred Plus
1 Shadow of the Colossus
1 Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams
2 Silent Hill 3
1 Silent Hill: Origins
1 Sims 2: Seasons
1 Sims 2: Castaway
1 Sims 2: Night Life
1 Splinter Cell: Double Agent
2 Stalker
10 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords
1 Star Wars: Republic Commando
1 Star Wars: Jedi Knight
1 Star Wars: Jedi Outcast
1 Super Mario Galaxy
1 SWAT: Target Liberty
2 System Shock 2
1 Tekken 5
3 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold
1 Thief 2: The Metal Age
1 Thief 3: Deadly Shadows
1 Tomb Raider 3: The Lost Artifact
1 Twinsuns Odyssey
1 Two Worlds
1 Ultima Underworld
3 Vampire Masquerade: Redemption
2 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
14 Witcher, The
1 Wizardry 7
1 Yakuza
5 Zanzarah


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #366766
07/27/08 05:00 AM
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Thank you again, flotsam. It is wonderful that we have this data you compile yearly. A lot of member owes you. wave

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: MaG] #366804
07/27/08 07:12 AM
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Hi flotsam smile

Brilliant stuff and MUCH appreciated !! praise
[And no surprises at all about the No 1 spot lol]

A huge thanks to you thumbsup

Cheers.

Mad wave


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Mad] #366831
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Thank you again, flotsam, for all your hard work smile It is deeplu appreciated smile

In my mind, there was no doubt that The Witcher deserves to be number 1 Having only (until now) played parts of the demo,I, too, could that this game was a true gem.


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Karsten] #366840
07/27/08 09:05 AM
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A great big thanks from me as well for your kindness in making this list for everyone, Flotsam!
Most of the list isn't surprising, although I was surprised to see Jade Empire as a well placed new entry, and that Sacred Plus didn't get more votes. The list is always something to look forward to!


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: nickie] #366902
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thanks I always use these lists to see what I need to BAAG and eventually play wave


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: looney4labs] #367104
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Outstanding, flotsam! I too also reference this list for my new Darkside adventures.


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Draclvr] #367198
07/28/08 01:08 AM
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Me too draclvr!!!
Thanks everyone smile


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #367343
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Thank you for taking the time to compile this list for us again this year,Flotsam. I've been thinking of giving The Witcher a try and this confirms it. All of your hard work is very much appreciated.
bravo

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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Mugsy] #367941
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thanks from me too, flotsam. It was fun listin fav's for recommendations [sorry for spelling]

Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: flotsam] #368111
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WOW! Thanks flotsam, what an awesome job. Really appreciate all the time you spend putting this together! thumbsup


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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Trail_Mystic] #368702
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Oh, this I can do most certainly. Are we allowed to include descriptions of the games also? I do hope so...

Anyway, here we go:

Baldur's Gate 1 - One of the modern milestones of Role Playing Games. Can be somewhat slow in the beginning, but the farther into it you get, the more addictive it gets. Necessary for anyone wanting an introduction into the world of Dungeons & Dragons and the marvellous sequel (which is better, but you should not start with it due to missing the game plot).

Baldur's Gate 2 - Starts off where BG1 left off. An immersive storyline, rememberable characters, superb voice acting, beautiful game design and one of the most loyal modding communities ever make this a must-have.

Planescape: Torment - Universally accepted as one of the best RPGs ever. It is more like reading a very exciting book. Deep story, tons of quests and one of the first games that can be played in several different ways, depending on how the player develops his or her character.

Deus Ex - First person/RPG hybrid. A must-have for anyone who likes conspiracy theories and men in black coats. A classic.

Fallout - The first Fallout game has a post-apocalyptic atmosphere that few games even today has beaten. A desolate and brutal world in which we were first introduced to the Vault Dweller and a post-apocalyptic California.

Fallout 2 - The second Fallout game was bigger, better and badder than Fallout. A huge game world, many ways to complete different tasks, and also one of the few games that doesn't require you to be "good" and "save the world". Of course, you'll still be saving the world, but this can be for any number of reasons.

Arcanum - Imagine a mix of 19th century technology and magic, where imagination sets the limit. This is the world of Arcanum, where nothing is as it seems. Basically an epic adventure in a fascinating world with a thoughtful story behind it, and a massive repertoire of quests to solve and things to discover.

Realms of the Haunting - A haunted mansion in the English country side carrying a dark secret with it... the typical setting for a scary game, and this is a real classic. A hybrid of action and puzzle game with a dark mood to fit, it was an accomplishment back in 96 when it was released and is still a fascinating tale.

Jagged Alliance 2 - A hybrid of RTS and RPG, this game is set in a fictional country with the goal of overthrowing it's dictator. Humorous elements, very tense action mixed with strategy and resource handling are what makes this an interesting game.

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - The best Star Wars game ever (possibly Tie Fighter excepted). It had all the typical elements of a good game, a great story with a twist, romance, slick gameplay and worlds to explore.

Thief II - The Metal Age - Despite the third game having better graphics and the first one being the innovator, the second game is the best of them all. Become Garrett, master thief in a steam-punk universe and ply your trade amongst it's inhabitants.

The Elder Scrolls III - The best game in this series. A massive world, filled with wonders both magical and otherwise. In this game, the storyline is more mature than it's "dumbed down" sequel Oblivion. Elements of morality, racism, political tensions and rivalry make themselves known and are tied neatly together with the main story.

Aliens vs. Predator 1 - For fans of the movies, this is a must-have. Creepy action that can give anyone a real scare. The one element that makes it's truly worthwhile: The motion tracker.

Edit: Oh, it was over already? I didn't know...

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Re: 2008 Darkside game recommendations [Re: Drizzt] #368714
07/31/08 12:22 AM
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Yes, but lovely nonetheless. grin Since this thread is always specially archived, I'm going to put a lock on it to keep it shorter though. Anyone is welcome to start a thread if you want to talk about the choices for the list.


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